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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:

    I don't see how they are similar in any way, shape or form. One is the cardinal sin in baseball and has been posted in every clubhouse since 1921 due to a team throwing the world series. One person accepted his punishment, knowing full well that the punishment carried the weight of never being inducted into the HOF. The punishment for doing what Pete Rose did was what he got and accepted. How do you argue a punishment you accepted and admitted to.

    I can't rob a bank, take a plea deal then say...."yeah...you know what, I don't want that punishment anymore. I think I'll go home now"

    The other guy took some substances that the league took less seriously than regular drugs and didn't test for. He took substances there was no punishment for. So if he were to accept the punishment for his wrong doing, it would be nothing, since there wasn't one.

    Remind me how they are similar


    The HOF is a separate entity and not controlled by MLB. They make their own rules. Considering the HOF's motto is "Preserving History, Honoring Excellence, Connecting Generations." I would say Rose plays a major role in the league's history and he certainly was an excellent player. Considering the HOF already has a murderer, a drug smuggler, etc. enshrined I feel it's quite hypocritical of them to try and dictate morality at this point.

    That's fine and I don't disagree entirely but that is the only rule there is around that. Joe Jackson and Pete Rose can't get in because there is a rule that says if you get caught gambling on baseball, you don't get in. You may not agree with that rule, but there was a very good reason for it when it was implemented. Is it outdated, most definitely, but it is the rule of baseball and the one rule you don't break for the integrity of the game.

    When we were arguing something a while back you said something along the lines of you may not agree with all laws or think the government should have certain laws, but you are responsible for following them and if you don't you are subject to the penalty. Exactly what happened. Just like if Barry Bonds played today, he would be subject to the drug testing and suspensions. He doesn't and he did some substances that at the time the league didn't take seriously.

    Just like Aaron, Schmidt and a bunch of others took greenies.


    See the thing is is it's the HOF's rule. Rules can be changed and considering the HOF is for the fans ,and I would say most fans want to see Rose at least with the opportunity to be enshrined through the voting process, it's only right.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    DS1119 wrote:

    See the thing is is it's the HOF's rule. Rules can be changed and considering the HOF is for the fans ,and I would say most fans want to see Rose at least with the opportunity to be enshrined through the voting process, it's only right.

    I guess, I just think he should have to live with the punishment he accepted. You have to live with your actions.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    Man, I like Zach Greinke, more than most probably but someone is going to seriously overpay for him. Guess it doesn't matter to the Dodgers.
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:

    See the thing is is it's the HOF's rule. Rules can be changed and considering the HOF is for the fans ,and I would say most fans want to see Rose at least with the opportunity to be enshrined through the voting process, it's only right.

    I guess, I just think he should have to live with the punishment he accepted. You have to live with your actions.


    And he did sign the papers. Still doesn't mean rules can't be changed. Happens all the time.
  • perfectlefts14
    perfectlefts14 Posts: 2,078
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Man, I like Zach Greinke, more than most probably but someone is going to seriously overpay for him. Guess it doesn't matter to the Dodgers.
    A Yankee fan talking about overpaying for a player...........now that's just funny.
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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,238
    imalive wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Wow, Rays. Hard not to like how bold that team is. I want to see what that guy can do with a bigger payroll.

    surprised longoria wants to stay...great manager but god-awful stadium/support.

    Yea, especially when he would get that kind of money anyway, and play for a winner.
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,289
    this guy should be available later this week...

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    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,639
    R.I.P. Marvin Miller
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    imalive wrote:
    this guy should be available later this week...

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    ned colletti is drooling...a giant with injuries? maybe he'll combine this signing with an extension of uribe's contract :fp: :lol::lol:
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    edited November 2012
    The Scott Boras media machine has started. Article in USA Today practically gives Boras credit for building the Senators and Tigers.


    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ml ... s/1733723/
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  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    DS1119 wrote:
    The Scott Boras media machine has started. Article in USA Today practically gives Boras credit for building the Senators and Tigers.
    :fp: :fp:
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,289
    HOF vote is going to be interesting in regard to bagwell and piazza.....a couple of users who were never pursued :shock:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Braves got BJ Upton for 5 years $75 million
    Career .255 hitter.
    overpaid?
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,289
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    Braves got BJ Upton for 5 years $75 million
    Career .255 hitter.
    overpaid?

    only time will tell ;)

    I hope so, tho.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    imalive wrote:
    HOF vote is going to be interesting in regard to bagwell and piazza.....a couple of users who were never pursued :shock:


    I don't think Piazza used, so F'n laid back, he was just a big Mother F*****r with a vicious swing.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    BinauralJam wrote:
    imalive wrote:
    HOF vote is going to be interesting in regard to bagwell and piazza.....a couple of users who were never pursued :shock:


    I don't think Piazza used, so F'n laid back, he was just a big Mother F*****r with a vicious swing.

    consensus is that he did ... acne as evidence ... also, apparently he has admitted to at least one journalist that he had used ...
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    No way in the World the Mets should have signed Wright to contact like that. Talk about strictly a PR move.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    these tv deals are gonna make every contract look ridiculous ...
  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,911
    Finally, something good happens that involves the Royals....

    http://fox2now.com/2012/11/30/kc-royals ... powerball/
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Indifference71 wrote:
    Finally, something good happens that involves the Royals....

    http://fox2now.com/2012/11/30/kc-royals ... powerball/



    Other than George Brett being in the hall of fame...when did the others get in? :? :lol: Unless they are referring to some Royals hall of fame.

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