2025-2026 NHL Offseason

I would bet my life, there are a percentage of players who would like the NHL to take the owners' deal or at least modify it a bit and negotiate off of that.

I am waiting for the first "Player who spoke on the condition of anonymity" to come forward.

Donald Fehr is not going to get a deal done.

Doug Maclean ‏@DougMaclean
Note to players. If you dont tell Donald to get a deal done. He wont. And you wont play this year. Not good news. Sorry.


Andy Strickland ‏@andystrickland
As multiple NHL sources have indicated... when NHL resumes players will not be getting anything north of 50% of HRR


Lance Hornby ‏@sunhornby
Fehr repeats nhl is short changing players on salary and other issues. Says nhl wants nba and nfl player deals but pa won't go backwards.

I'm going to start a new league.....

All league revenue (tix/consessions/parking/tv/radio/merchandise etc) will go into one giant pot. Each franchise will then get X amount to fund local advertising, team operations, team mgmt, etc. All the rest will paid out to players. Each team will get 1/30 to play their players. Contracts will be signed as a % of team salary. so a crosby might get 15% and the 20th guy might get 2.5%, but in total, it will be 100%. A draw will be paid during the season and then at the end of the season when final numbers are tallied, the rest will be paid out.

boom....

81 wrote:

I'm going to start a new league.....

All league revenue (tix/consessions/parking/tv/radio/merchandise etc) will go into one giant pot. Each franchise will then get X amount to fund local advertising, team operations, team mgmt, etc. All the rest will paid out to players. Each team will get 1/30 to play their players. Contracts will be signed as a % of team salary. so a crosby might get 15% and the 20th guy might get 2.5%, but in total, it will be 100%. A draw will be paid during the season and then at the end of the season when final numbers are tallied, the rest will be paid out.

boom....

sounds kind of like the XFL

Doesn't look good...the owners rejected the player proposal...back to the drawing board.

proposal
counter proposal,
rejection

mother f'er

someone break the cycle

lukin2006 wrote:

If the auto worker, worker at wal mart or anyone else just try to earn a decent wage I'll side with them, and many of these people sacrifice their body just make a buck and some end up disabled and earning measly disability payments, and these employees contribute to their companies profits as well, the exception, when their company is losing money many of them lose their job. These athletes earn millions ... and if it wasn't for hockey most wouldn't be making 50 grand.

well, that's up for debate... The owners, some of them anyway, are making a ton of coin off of them. The owners are risking....what? For most, a small fraction of their money...Most of them buy these teams as an ego fix - a way to get some fame with their fortune, not as a business venture. The players are risking their bodies, moreso than most other professions, and have dedicated their lives to the game since childhood without being paid for it (I know it's a game, but a lot of these kids leave home at like 14)....

Do I feel sorry for them? Not one fucking bit! Of course not...I have no sympathy for either side. I think pro sports bring in enough money to roll back ticket prices to pretty much zilch if they shared the revenues completely....there is no reason a family without access to company seats should have to pay the equivalent of a long weekend vacation to see a hockey game together....then have to listen to these assholes bicker like they are....(while demanding the family buy them a new arena with their tax dollars, or lose the privilege of attending those games! :evil: wtf....what business treats their customers like this?)

All they should have to do is close the loopholes in the cap and be fucking done with it! leave everything else the same. how hard can that be? Is that naive? Which side would that screw, and which side is demanding more? sounds like it would be the players giving in that scenario, but the owners want even more than that.
Things were going well with the exception of a couple markets (nothing new! been happening since before expansion) and a few stupid contracts.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/nh ... unteroffer

NHL lockout: Gary Bettman shoots down players’ counteroffer

NHL players say are willing to go to a 50-50 split. Just not this year.

And that appears to be the reason why NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and his entourage of owners walked away from three financial proposals laid out by players association on Thursday, suggesting a full season and the Winter Classic are at risk, while angering the players.

“In a nutshell, it doesn’t look good right now,” said Penguins captain Sidney Crosby, who took in the negotiations. “You come with three proposals. You think you have a chance at getting momentum and it’s shut down within minutes. That doesn’t seem like a group that’s willing to negotiate.

“For us to come down to 50-50 is pretty big,” said Coyotes forward Shane Doan. “That was a big move on our part to meet them at 50-50. Unfortunately, it didn’t work.”

Flanked by 18 players, Donald Fehr laid out three proposals the NHL deemed not good enough. Each got the split on hockey-related revenue to 50-50, just not this year.

Under the first proposal, the players — who receive about $1.88 billion this year — envision being paid the same this season, rising to $1.92 billion in year two, $1.96 billion in year three and then for the remainder of the contract, the players would take the greater of $2.06 billion or 50 per cent of revenue. That reflects five per cent growth.

Under the second, the players would take what they currently get — $1.883 billion — plus 24 per cent of hockey-related revenue – until HRR goes past $4.216 billion, at which time the sides would be at 50 per cent each.

Under the third, the players would go to 50 per cent right away, but with the condition that all players now under contract — about 60 per cent of the league — get paid in full. To do that, essentially 87 per cent of current contracts would count against the cap. The remaining 13 per cent would draw their salary from a separate pool that does not count against the players’ share of revenue.

“All we’re asking is for them to honour the current contracts we’re under and they’re still trying to find ways not to do that,” said Blackhawks captain Jonathan Toews.

It was a despondent sounding Bettman who walked away from talks Thursday, intimating that a full season could be lost and the Winter Classic might be cancelled soon.

“We were done in an hour today because there was really nothing there,” Bettman told reporters. “Hopefully we’ll hear back, but I don’t know what the next step is. I’m very discouraged.”

Bettman said a deal must be in place by Oct. 25 in order to start a full 82-game season Nov. 2. He also expressed concern about the Jan. 1 Winter Classic featuring the Maple Leafs and Red Wings.

“It takes a lot of time and it takes the commitment of a lot of money to put on the Winter Classic,” said Bettman. “At some point we will have to commit millions of dollars if we’re going to play on Jan. 1.

“In these circumstances, with this uncertainty, we’re not going commit many millions of dollars if we don’t think we have a deal. The Winter Classic time frame in terms of making that decision is probably rapidly approaching.”

Bettman said the league’s offer was as good as it was going to get. As for the players’ proposals: “None of them even began to approach 50-50.”

Fehr scoffed at that comment.

“The suggestion that somehow the players are not moving in the owners’ direction seems to me to be misplaced,” said Fehr.

The players proposals dealt only with economics and not free agency, contract length, salary arbitration or any of the other matters the league’s latest offer included.

Crosby said the players just want a fair deal. “We’re negotiating in good faith with a purpose. I don’t know if there’s much purpose from their side right now.

“Today wasn’t a step in the right direction. There is still time, but things aren’t very optimistic.”

Im pretty frustrated and disgusted by both sides.


The NHLPA needs to put a gag order on the players. They are really showing their lack of smarts and making me really not want to support the league any more.

Not really, but at least PR wise.

Antagonizing fans and crying poor on twitter is pretty low.... and also doing shit like comparing their situation to a factory worker making $40K/year.... all the while (biznasty) posting pictures of them partying it up in Vegas.