2025-2026 NHL Offseason

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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Don Cherry tweets a message to locked out NHL players


    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/sto ... ckout.html
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  • kenshunt
    kenshunt London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,863
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Don Cherry tweets a message to locked out NHL players


    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/sto ... ckout.html

    It's also the agents who need to keep their mouths shut on twitter
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    kenshunt wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Don Cherry tweets a message to locked out NHL players


    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/sto ... ckout.html

    It's also the agents who need to keep their mouths shut on twitter

    it's gotta be frustrating tho ... although i agree - it's in their best interests to stay silent ... it's hard to expect all members to take this quietly ...
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    I don't follow twitter so I really don't know what has been said. I didn't think Don would be a twitter follower. But Don knows these owners...so he probably knows what their like. Just like the last lockout I suspect the owners will get what they want.
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  • kenshunt
    kenshunt London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,863
    polaris_x wrote:
    kenshunt wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Don Cherry tweets a message to locked out NHL players


    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/sto ... ckout.html

    It's also the agents who need to keep their mouths shut on twitter

    it's gotta be frustrating tho ... although i agree - it's in their best interests to stay silent ... it's hard to expect all members to take this quietly ...

    i agree, but i just removed all players and agents from my twitter so i wouldn't read that shit lol
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  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    NHL on NBC Sports


    The NHL is pleased with Labour Board's decision.

    Read More: http://fb.nbcsports.com/ru5

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    The lockout will end before November!


    As expected, the Alberta Labour Board sided with the NHL today, blocking the NHLPA’s attempt to invalidate the lockout for the Calgary Flames and Edmonton Oilers.

    Bill Daly expresses how “pleased” the NHL is with the decision in the league’s press release:

    “We are pleased with the Alberta Labour Board’s ruling today that the lockout of Players is effective on a League-wide basis, including in Alberta, and we are extremely appreciative of the decisive manner in which the matter was handled.

    “We are hopeful that this ruling will enable both the League and the NHL Players’ Association to focus all of our efforts and energies on negotiating a new Collective Bargaining Agreement in order to get our game and our Players back on the ice.”





    so basically still NO progress,..
    :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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  • Drowned Out
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    This was my son's onesie....he's not even 7 yet :cry:

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  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    This was my son's onesie....he's not even 7 yet :cry:

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    :lol:

    thats grerat !
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  • Bathgate66
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    This was my son's onesie....he's not even 7 yet :cry:

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    :lol:

    thats grerat !
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    The season is supposed to start tonight.

    This is madness. I blame both sides, but most of all I blame the players' misguided denial that the Owners hold the cards here. Their goal should be to lessen the blow, and make it as quick as possible. Why miss out on a year's worth of a $4 Million dollar salary to save like $300K on that? (which will likely be back once the revenues keep growing). It would take a whole lengthy career to make up for that, not to mention those players who have already missed a season.

    The owners are already independantly wealthy, and many of them lose a ton of money on the NHL year-to-year anyways. They can wait, and have proved it before.
  • 81
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    :fp: :(


    owners are really trying to turn the screws, and not just in relation to salary....but to contract terms as well as free agency....i understand why the players are fighting, and i do support them, something has to give.

    at least basketball is starting up, and the Bears are looking solid.

    and i save $172 on my center ice package
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  • drivingrl
    drivingrl Posts: 1,448
    So I'm gonna go take a nap.

    Y'all wake me up when the hockey season starts or the next time Pearl Jam tours. Whichever comes first.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,316
    MayDay10 wrote:
    The season is supposed to start tonight.

    This is madness. I blame both sides, but most of all I blame the players' misguided denial that the Owners hold the cards here. Their goal should be to lessen the blow, and make it as quick as possible. Why miss out on a year's worth of a $4 Million dollar salary to save like $300K on that? (which will likely be back once the revenues keep growing). It would take a whole lengthy career to make up for that, not to mention those players who have already missed a season.

    The owners are already independantly wealthy, and many of them lose a ton of money on the NHL year-to-year anyways. They can wait, and have proved it before.
    Mike Modano was quoted, saying in retrospect, that sitting out the '04 season and missing out on $7.5M probably wasn't the greatest idea. It's not like these guys are getting paid $28/hr.
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    I saw Bill Guerin had a similar quote... but much more emotional.

    The players got the Fehrs involved, which from the beginning is not productive.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    actually it was to NBA players. here it is:
    http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/10/19 ... s-its.html

    "It's not worth it. Get a deal done," former Dallas Stars forward Bill Guerin said during a phone call last week.
    There was not a single NHL player during the Great Lockout of 2004-05 who was a bigger proponent of the union's fight than this man. No one believed in the cause more than Guerin, and to hear him admit this is a bit stunning.
    "I learned a big lesson: It's not a partnership. It's their league, and you are going to play when they want," he said.
    Today, Guerin has hindsight and his experience serves as a giant caution to any player who thinks losing a game, much less an entire season, to this lockout is a good idea. His message is simple: Get what you can; start playing; you are not going to win what you think.
    "It is not worth it to any of them to burn games or to burn an entire year. Burning a year was ridiculous," Guerin said. "It wasn't worth me giving up $9 million a year, or 82 games plus the playoffs, then having a crappy year and being bought out.... Guys in the NBA making $15 million or however much better think long and hard about this."
    The NBA is stuck in a nasty labor fight with the players' union, and the league already canceled the first couple of weeks of the regular season.
    NBA Commissioner David Stern has cautioned that if a deal isn't done soon there will be no games through Christmas, at least.
    When reflecting on the NHL lockout that wiped out the entire 2004-05 season, Guerin sounds like a man who had reality shoved down his throat. There is no bitterness in his voice, just truths, which aren't necessarily positive. The truth is Guerin, or any player, really isn't in charge as long as those who are cutting the checks are unified. If it doesn't sound that much different than your job, it's because it's not.
    "We could have waited two years and they would have waited us out -- I would have given an extra 2 percent back to play that year," Guerin said. "When you are in the heat of battle, and you are fired up, you don't think what they are doing is right. But it's not about what is right or wrong -- it's their league. It's theirs. I feel, personally, I didn't like guys giving up a year of their career, for what? A few less bucks? Guys are making more money now than they ever have."
    Much of what is taking place right now between the players and owners sounds and feels very similar to the early days of the NHL lockout in 2004. Stern has total autonomy. No owner is talking, which means Stern has solidarity and leverage.
    "The only thing you can die in the battlefield for in something like this is guaranteed contracts; everything else is nickel-and-dime stuff and it's not worth it," Guerin said.
    Guerin, 41, is retired, and works part time as an assistant for the Pittsburgh Penguins.
    He lives with his wife and their four children in Long Island, N.Y., and can do so because he took care of his money while he played.
    With the economy in a full dog paddle, and the Occupy Wall Street movement gaining traction, neither side appears to be winning the PR battle. No one sides with owners because they embody the "Big Bank/Wall Street" element that has become all that is wrong with the world.
    We all know by now that just because they reduce their costs means they will certainly not pass the savings on to the consumer. They pass the savings on to themselves.
    Meanwhile, no one cares about guys who play basketball for a six-figure check.
    "People say it's OK for ownership to make money because they worked hard to make money and afford to buy a sports franchise," Guerin said. "But the athlete is dumb and good at his sport and fortunate to play sports and make millions."
    This reminds me of the Chris Rock bit on Rich vs. Wealth: "Here is the difference," Rock says, "Shaq is rich. The white man that signs his check is wealthy. I ain't talking about rich, I'm talking about wealth."
    This stupid thing could end today, tomorrow, next month or whenever.
    Most of us have problems that don't compare so we don't care about this. For the vast majority of us, the NBA is a luxury rather than a need. We don't really need the NBA, because it's just a movie.
    Guerin sounds like a man who learned this lesson, and one of the many truths that exist in our world.
    "For so long, I thought so long and hard about it," he said. "But when you think about it, I tell guys it wasn't worth it."

    Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/10/19 ... rylink=cpy
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    That's funniest part of this lock out is people have actually taken sides...it's millionaires fighting billionaires...I'm guessing a good majority of teams don't make money till the playoffs...and do these players really think the Illitch's, Jacobs, Snider, Molson's is hurting for money...they all got their other business's...and some of these players lose credibility with me when there in Europe just till the lockout ends displacing hockey players who really have no choice but playing Europe. None of these hockey players need the money, and if they do then they need some serious financial counseling.
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  • Bathgate66
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  • drivingrl
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    Bathgate66 wrote:
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    Okay, I'm pretty sure the NHL already understands what that's like. Maybe not in the northeast, but trust me, teams in other parts of the country understand not having fans. LOL
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  • Bathgate66
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    drivingrl wrote:
    Bathgate66 wrote:
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    Okay, I'm pretty sure the NHL already understands what that's like. Maybe not in the northeast, but trust me, teams in other parts of the country understand not having fans. LOL


    good point
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  • Gary Carter
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    drivingrl wrote:
    Bathgate66 wrote:
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    Okay, I'm pretty sure the NHL already understands what that's like. Maybe not in the northeast, but trust me, teams in other parts of the country understand not having fans. LOL
    Isles fans have been doing this since 94. bout time the other fans join in.
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