Atheism/Agnosticism on the rise

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    several reasons why this is happening:

    1) the breakdown of the "traditional" family unit. most religious practices revolve around the traditional family unit of the past several centuries. since that family unit has altered significantly over the past few decades, with the religious right being unwilling to accept and include that alteration, has lead to a decline in membership

    2) globalization of media. being able to witness second hand (video) all the mass destruction of humankind on each other, not to mention the earth and nature on us, it gets harder and harder for a lay person to believe in an all-loving and merciful One

    3) lifestyle. it's been happening not just over the technological age, but even before that. women being finally allowed into the workforce and now actually (gasp!) having their own social lives, is a small part of it, but what may have started it, which makes the family unit, as it stands today, much busier. which leaves less time for god.

    4) religion is an atiquated notion. to reach youth, you have to update and transform with the times to identify with them. western religion has failed to do that. we fear our ipods dying and forgetting our facebook passwords more than we fear the wrath of god on judgment day.

    5) fear of our elders is gone. human behaviour used to be steeped in tradition, which was brought on by a sense of belonging and right and fear. people no longer worry about appeasing their parents and doing right by the family. partly because baby boomer parents have softened to this ideal. they want their kids to forge their own path.
    Not sure I agree 100%, but with much. Thank you for the reasoned response.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    It becomes a test to believe unless you feel it in your heart,
    this why so many are leaving religion.
    When you know in your heart and walk with God there is no test,
    only answers.

    Pain, injustice, fear, hate, prejudice, bias seem to be on the rise ...
    cruelty, greed, lust, dishonesty...
    is there a connection?

    It's as though there is more test just because people don't believe.

    I find that ironic as it is written in the book most don't believe.
    It is as though it speaks the truth. In time is where truth lies.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    say what :?

    again only claimed my own wising up ... no reflection on another
    wow and always a nice guy too :lol:
    Does that show personal spiritual growth to be so rude?

    do you really think anyone is buying that?

    saying someone/something is ignorant is not rude. had I said someone was "stupid" would be rude, ignorant is not.
    oh thanks for making that clear to all the ignorant people out there :fp:

    Good lord get over yourself :lol:
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    While I'm sure some people feel much "wiser" when they start to believe in a magic man in the sky who gives a shit who wins the super bowl but can't be arsed to help the 3 year-old girl being raped in Somalia, I would think that maybe some people might want to look the word "wise" up in a dictionary.

    Religions are there for weak-minded people who need to be told what to think and do.

    That's all.

    while I agree with your first statement, your second one is an ignorant over generalization and dramatic falsehood.
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    pandora wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    say what :?

    again only claimed my own wising up ... no reflection on another
    wow and always a nice guy too :lol:
    Does that show personal spiritual growth to be so rude?

    do you really think anyone is buying that?

    saying someone/something is ignorant is not rude. had I said someone was "stupid" would be rude, ignorant is not.
    oh thanks for making that clear to all the ignorant people out there :fp:

    Good lord get over yourself :lol:

    ah, the inevitible facepalm. bravo, pandora, once again, bravo.
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,989
    Was closed for review.

    Judging each other? I didn't take the first comment that way but some did and then judged back. The topic is religion and no religion, not each other. Too much to clean up, this thread is done.
    Falling down,...not staying down
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