F**king F chord sux!!!

bellosjam
bellosjam Posts: 288
edited November 2012 in Musicians and Gearheads
Sorry, just had to get that out...my hand hurts and i'm going to have a beer or two before going to bed. Maybe i'll buy a harmonica tomorrow... :x
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  • MaxGoldenrod
    MaxGoldenrod Posts: 1,341
    I agree
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  • HailHailOZ
    HailHailOZ Posts: 350
    Hell yeah! Could I add B minor. Not painful but awkward.
  • AzWicker
    AzWicker Posts: 1,162
    pussies

    ;)
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  • Gardenparty
    Gardenparty Posts: 1,910
    AzWicker wrote:
    pussies

    ;)

    heh heh :D

    keep at it gang! it gets better
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  • mfc2006
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    Gardenparty wrote:

    keep at it gang! it gets better

    truth!
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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    would just throw out that a lot of the "pain" and discomfort you have when learning to use bar chords comes from holding the guitar in a poor position, or holding your wrist in a poor position, or both.

    Make sure your neck isn't too far out in front of your body, or that your guitar isn't leaning forward.
    Try to use a strap to support your guitar, and if not make sure you are sitting correctly to hold and support the neck - thus relieving pressure on your wrist.

    Make sure the thumb side of your palm isn't too high up on the back of the neck of your guitar toward the low E string, and conversely, make sure that same side of your wrist isn't pushed out too far back from the high e string.

    Once you are using proper hand mechanics,
    the rest is just finger\hand strength and calluses, which you will get just by using those muscles\skin.

    and yeh.
    it does suck.
    i remember those days of not being able to fret a full barre, and being real pissed about it.
    lolz :D
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Mixing in some open f chords when you're playing helps keep your hands from getting sore and varies the sound which often adds a little flavor to most songs anyway.
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  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,119
    It will get easier - I promise. The F chord made me almost want to quit. Very frustrating. I took a couple weeks off fromt he guitar, took some advice from some people here and now I can play it - different versions too.
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    F chord? What have I been playing? Lol
  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    bellosjam wrote:
    Sorry, just had to get that out...my hand hurts and i'm going to have a beer or two before going to bed. Maybe i'll buy a harmonica tomorrow... :x

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  • nane
    nane Seattle, WA Posts: 65
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    would just throw out that a lot of the "pain" and discomfort you have when learning to use bar chords comes from holding the guitar in a poor position, or holding your wrist in a poor position, or both.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_14jY4AwnojA/SbkWZKJmyOI/AAAAAAAAAwo/P2XtUuDmdcg/s320/violao+2.jpg

    That's why some guitars comes with this line on the back of the neck.
    This is a guide to position your thumb and make the chords correctly. Try practicing in this "formal" way and when you're used to do bar chords you won't need to obey this "rule".
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  • spencersinger
    spencersinger Posts: 6
    I agree I hate the F Chord. But it doesn't hurt me to play it, It's just really difficult to switch to or switch out of, especially when going back to any other open chord. It's easy to just go up the neck to a new bar chord though. It does just take practice and patience. But if we are ever gonna play Better Man we have to get the F chord lol
  • Lukinz
    Lukinz Posts: 386
    You can also play the F up high at the 8th fret same fingering you use for a B at fret 2.

    Plus sometimes you can get away with just playing the 6th and 5th strings when you play the F at 1 so you don't have to use the whole hand pressure. Depends on the song.

    But like everyone else said, just takes many repetitions.
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  • big mick
    big mick Hull UK Posts: 773
    Keep trying - a tip - don't barre the chord ,play 1st fret b, 2nd fret g, 3rd on d and a and only play middle 4 strings, way easier, figure out some cheats and make them work, I've been playing for nearly 25 years.
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  • DURP
    DURP OhighO Posts: 2,180
    big mick wrote:
    Keep trying - a tip - don't barre the chord ,play 1st fret b, 2nd fret g, 3rd on d and a and only play middle 4 strings, way easier, figure out some cheats and make them work, I've been playing for nearly 25 years.

    That's the way i learned to play F and it's not that bad.

    What got me was A till i found a comfortable position. That seemed to be alot of my problem just playing with what is comfortable.

    Like power chords i use my index on the A or E then my ring finger on the other two strings. It works for me better than using ring and pinky.
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  • bellosjam
    bellosjam Posts: 288
    OP here...stuck with it and now the F chord is officially my BITCH!!!! 8-)
  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,119
    bellosjam wrote:
    OP here...stuck with it and now the F chord is officially my BITCH!!!! 8-)
    doesn't it feel great?! Congrats!
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  • uninnocent-
    uninnocent- Posts: 5,959
    bellosjam wrote:
    OP here...stuck with it and now the F chord is officially my BITCH!!!! 8-)
    Congrats! It's definitely worth the hard work.

    Here's your next challenge: 
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    :D Good Luck!
  • he.who.forgets
    he.who.forgets Posts: 4,593
    just curious as to how everyone plays the F...
    Like this?
    --1
    --1
    ----2
    3
    O
    X

    Or this?

    --1
    --1
    --1--2
    --1--3
    --1--3
    --1

    Sorry, I don't write out tab very often so if that last chord doesnt make sense, I just mean barring the entire first fret.
    I actually find the bar chord easier, it's just slower for me to switch to while playing.
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  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    he.who.forgets wrote:
    just curious as to how everyone plays the F...
    Like this?
    --1
    --1
    ----2
    3
    O
    X

    Or this?

    --1
    --1
    --1--2
    --1--3
    --1--3
    --1

    Sorry, I don't write out tab very often so if that last chord doesnt make sense, I just mean barring the entire first fret.
    I actually find the bar chord easier, it's just slower for me to switch to while playing.



    Both ways. Depends on the song.

    If most other chords are open then the first F "depicted" above would be used,

    but if moving up the fretboard then the second depicted F is used.

    but ya know, now that you mention it, I've been playing "10 a.m. automatic" by the black keys, and I think that the barred F is called for, but I just play the open F it.

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