The Official Philadelphia Flyers Thread

Dr. Delight wrote:

My opinion, if a franchise cannot sustain itself without riding the backs of numerous other teams for financial"help", then said franchise should either be disbanded or shipped to another locale with enough fan support to build and keep a healthy organization.

And now the league wants to possibly reward poorer teams with added draft picks and compensation. Screw that. It's just ridiculous. This is ugly.
This is going to be owner vs owners and I can easily see a third lockout coming under Bettmans tenure.

i sort of disagree with this as not all markets are not built equally. if you take your stance, your are looking at NY, Philly, Boston, Chicago, Toronto and a couple others being able to support teams, while 2/3rd of the league move every 5-10 years looking for handouts.

MayDay10 wrote:

well, in fairness, that is the players' proposal which isnt close to what we will see.

The league cant sustain itself in places even where there is support. There are probably only 1 - 3 places remaining that there would be rapid support: Toronto/Ontario II, Quebec City, and maybe Seattle. If/When the Canadian dollar sinks, most of the Canadian teams will suffer (EDM, CAL, OTT, WIN, maybe VAN).
Other than that, the next choices would be KC, Houston, OKC... ugh.

I just dont want to see the league revert back to Philly, Rangers, Detroit, and Toronto bidding on every decent player.

I understand your side too, being a fan of a big market team, but for 75% of the league it sucks ass. Buffalo sells out every game, sells a lot of merch, huge TV ratings, but still loses money.

At least Buff now has an owner with some money in his pockets.
Something needs to break here. Remember the last lockout, all us fans kept hearing was, ticket prices will be lowered, blah, blah.. It didnt happen.

The league is paying its players way too high a percentage of its total league revenue. Most of it is the fault of the owners really. This league isnt the NFL,NBA or MLB. Not even close.
It sounds to me that in the NHLPA proposal, the players agreed to drop the percentage of their salaries(of the TLR). Salaries would roll back. Only if and when revenue increases, would salaries also begin to increase by a certain percentage. Sounds good to me.

A big help would be for the owners to finally lower these ticket prices. Unfortunately, they are prob afraid of losing team revenue. But this, combined with lower salary percentages, would definitely go a ways toward helping teams have better bottom lines. Lower tix= higher attendance= higher concessions, etc.

Then again, none of that matters to the teams that dont want to spend money to improve the on-ice product and build up the fan base. I cant stand the teams that hover around the cap floor, then bitch and moan when they arent successful and wonder why nobody wants to pay $60 per ticket to watch their crappy team. If an owner doesnt have the cash to field a competitive team and is looking for handouts, then the team should be relocated or disbanded IMO. Thats my biggest complaint. You already have the league handing money to Bettmans Phoenix Coyotes to stay afloat, because he wants to save face on his epic expansion plan that backfired.

Guess we'll find out what happens, but I'm not optimistic.

Dr. Delight wrote:

My opinion, if a franchise cannot sustain itself without riding the backs of numerous other teams for financial"help", then said franchise should either be disbanded or shipped to another locale with enough fan support to build and keep a healthy organization.

And now the league wants to possibly reward poorer teams with added draft picks and compensation. Screw that. It's just ridiculous. This is ugly.
This is going to be owner vs owners and I can easily see a third lockout coming under Bettmans tenure.

While I agree with you on this i don't see both the owners and the players agreeing to close teams down and I don't see the NHL agreeing to moving of the teams.

there is going to be a lockout and that is 100% certain. what i see happening is that the nhl and nhlpa will agree to a 50-50 split, I see UFA going up to 27 year old and a bit more in revenue sharing but not alot.

fife wrote:

Dr. Delight wrote:

Hartnell re-signed for 6 yrs



The Philadelphia Flyers announced today that they have re-signed 6-2, 210-lb left wing Scott Hartnell to a multi-year contract extension, according to General Manager Paul Holmgren.

“We are pleased to announce that we have agreed with Scott on a multi-year extension,” said Holmgren. “Scott has been a very good player for us over the last five seasons and we look forward to many more good years to come.”

“I am very happy to be staying in Philly to continue my career playing in front of the best fans in the NHL," said Hartnell. "I would like to thank Mr. Snider and the entire Flyers organization.”

great signing but do we know how much the cap is. I am worried about them signing all these players when they really need to get some d-man.

Just read it is 6yrs/ $4.75 per

Sounds like the flyers made a strong offer for JayBo. Not sure what, but from what i read they liked it better then Det's offer.

The Fixer wrote:

fife wrote:

Dr. Delight wrote:

Hartnell re-signed for 6 yrs



The Philadelphia Flyers announced today that they have re-signed 6-2, 210-lb left wing Scott Hartnell to a multi-year contract extension, according to General Manager Paul Holmgren.

“We are pleased to announce that we have agreed with Scott on a multi-year extension,” said Holmgren. “Scott has been a very good player for us over the last five seasons and we look forward to many more good years to come.”

“I am very happy to be staying in Philly to continue my career playing in front of the best fans in the NHL," said Hartnell. "I would like to thank Mr. Snider and the entire Flyers organization.”

great signing but do we know how much the cap is. I am worried about them signing all these players when they really need to get some d-man.

anyone else think 6 years is kinda long for hartnell? can't see him being real effective at 36

I'm not worried about a lockout. With all the injuries on the backline it would probably help them

I wa sthinking the same thing bnut when you think that he has only missed like 3 games in the past 5 years i think 6 year is ok. also from what i heard the cap hit in the last 2 years in low.

I don't know if the backend will be ok by the time they come back cause the 2 bigs ones are pronger and Mez who is out for a while.

Put on nhl network

Awful series but I loved this era of flyer hockey

caught the broad street bullies hbo show last weekend. good stuff.

Dr. Delight wrote:

Looks like there's going to be zero hockey for a while.

Support the AHL

I'm a Rangers fan but I was in Berlin where Briere and Giroux are playing for Eisbaren Berlin. I went to 2 games while I was there. This is a video I took of Giroux being called out for an ovation as the star of the game. Their fans are crazy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfh7oxc7PIQ