Pearl Jam 2012 Bootlegs 24 Bit FLAC & ALAC - HD Formats

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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,280
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    demetrios wrote:
    Download complete! Listening now ...

    OH .. MY .... GOD!!!!!!! :shock:

    How does it sound compared to Kufala years and compared to 2000/2003 boots?

    IMO, it's so much better. I'm listening to the 24 bit flacs on my PS3 Media Server.
    It's just so good!!
  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,667
    knik wrote:
    Good question!
    I wasn't sure, so I tried burning a CD with the hi-res download, and it works.
    I can play back the CD on a normal CD player fine.

    I did not use iTunes for burning the CD, so I'm not sure how iTunes would handle the 24bit to 16bit conversion required for burning the CD, but I think it would be no problem.

    The sound quality of the CD won't be as good as playing back the HD file directly though. It will be just normal CD quality (maybe a bit better because the ALAC-HD file that you are trying to burn to the CD is not dynamically compressed like the normal ALAC file).

    I'm curious what program you used to burn the CD? The reason I ask is that some sort of dithering/downsampling must have occurred to get the files to be 16 bit. I hope that the program you used didn't just truncate the audio, because that would lead to errors. I can't imagine a program doing dithering/downsampling on the fly while burning, but I could be wrong.
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,998
    demetrios wrote:
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    demetrios wrote:
    Download complete! Listening now ...

    OH .. MY .... GOD!!!!!!! :shock:

    How does it sound compared to Kufala years and compared to 2000/2003 boots?

    IMO, it's so much better. I'm listening to the 24 bit flacs on my PS3 Media Server.
    It's just so good!!

    Thanks! That's good to know :) .
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  • NoLogo
    NoLogo Posts: 289
    Just a short question: If you order the CDs, is the digital download included? Or do you have to wait with listening til you get the CDs per mail?
  • boyo79
    boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    NoLogo wrote:
    Just a short question: If you order the CDs, is the digital download included? Or do you have to wait with listening til you get the CDs per mail?


    You just get the cds.
    2000: Manchester
    2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
    2007: London
    2009: Manchester
    2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
    2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
    2014: Amsterdam I & II; Berlin; Leeds; Milton Keynes
    2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II

    Bootleg Reviews: http://pjbootlegreviews.blogspot.com/
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,280
    boyo79 wrote:
    NoLogo wrote:
    Just a short question: If you order the CDs, is the digital download included? Or do you have to wait with listening til you get the CDs per mail?


    You just get the cds.

    Yep, just the CD's.

    But if they did release Pearl Jam Official Audio Bootlegs in Vinyl format, we would get digital downloads for them.
  • boyo79
    boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    demetrios wrote:
    boyo79 wrote:
    NoLogo wrote:
    Just a short question: If you order the CDs, is the digital download included? Or do you have to wait with listening til you get the CDs per mail?


    You just get the cds.

    Yep, just the CD's.

    But if they did release Pearl Jam Official Audio Bootlegs in Vinyl format, we would get digital downloads for them.

    Bootlegs on vinyl would be crazy insane!!! Imagine them releasing all of 2000 for example on vinyl :lol::lol::lol:
    2000: Manchester
    2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
    2007: London
    2009: Manchester
    2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
    2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
    2014: Amsterdam I & II; Berlin; Leeds; Milton Keynes
    2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II

    Bootleg Reviews: http://pjbootlegreviews.blogspot.com/
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,280
    boyo79 wrote:
    demetrios wrote:
    boyo79 wrote:
    You just get the cds.

    Yep, just the CD's.

    But if they did release Pearl Jam Official Audio Bootlegs in Vinyl format, we would get digital downloads for them.

    Bootlegs on vinyl would be crazy insane!!! Imagine them releasing all of 2000 for example on vinyl :lol::lol::lol:

    That would be awesome! Awesome to the max!!! :mrgreen:
  • PJ88
    PJ88 Posts: 1,074
    2000 tour on vinyl would be amazing!
  • Havent bought it yet, but this "live downloads" website is cool. If its the "HD" format that you can sample each song on, it sounds like the best sounding boots yet...
  • NoLogo
    NoLogo Posts: 289
    demetrios wrote:
    boyo79 wrote:
    NoLogo wrote:
    Just a short question: If you order the CDs, is the digital download included? Or do you have to wait with listening til you get the CDs per mail?


    You just get the cds.

    Yep, just the CD's.

    But if they did release Pearl Jam Official Audio Bootlegs in Vinyl format, we would get digital downloads for them.

    Thanks! Ah, too bad, so I have to wait quite some time til the CDs arrive here... but hey! There´s PJ radio! :D

    And these bootlegs on vinyl would be the killer!! :shock: :mrgreen:
  • Daron Oshay
    Daron Oshay Middletown, NJ Posts: 2,591
    Did they decide not to do the ALAC files? dont see them.
  • BF89905
    BF89905 Posts: 1,447
    To echo some one else's comment: those sample tracks sound really good. From skim reading the FAQ's on the live downloads website, there is no mention of the HD formats, I'll wait for more reviews to come in .....

    enjoy
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,280
    Did they decide not to do the ALAC files? dont see them.

    The ALAC & ALAC-HD are available over @ http://www.livedownloads.com/live-music ... er-UK.html.

    http://pearljam.com/goods/product_info. ... ts_id=1139 . Not sure if the 10club store will be selling that Apple format.
  • fcbittenca
    fcbittenca Posts: 345
    Sound, sound... What is the source of these recordings? How different are they from the FLAC sold at 10C?
    When you get a CD and convert it to FLAC-HD it's just the same sound quality. The file gets bigger because of the format, not because there is additional data there.

    If this FLAC-HD are mastered straight out of the recording table on native 24bit/96khz then I am sure it would sound amazing for anyone with a good DAC and decent amp/speakers set. Otherwise ... save your cash.

    I have wasted my money on "HD" music files online just to find out they sound mostly the same as my CDs. Some company just got the CD and transfered it to FLAC and claimed to have a HD file.

    I have a Onkyo TX-NR1009 biamped to Monitor Audio's BX5 speakers reading files from a Iomega 2TB NAS Drive. I am using decent cables on a regular leaving room. It's not High-End, but it gets the job done for me.
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  • Clone
    Clone UK Posts: 147
    Will a box set be available? since there isn't one for the 2011 tour yet.
  • NHiding
    NHiding Posts: 1,908
    edited August 2012
    by fcbittenca » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:35 am
    Sound, sound... What is the source of these recordings? How different are they from the FLAC sold at 10C?
    When you get a CD and convert it to FLAC-HD it's just the same sound quality. The file gets bigger because of the format, not because there is additional data there.

    If this FLAC-HD are mastered straight out of the recording table on native 24bit/96khz then I am sure it would sound amazing for anyone with a good DAC and decent amp/speakers set. Otherwise ... save your cash.

    I have wasted my money on "HD" music files online just to find out they sound mostly the same as my CDs. Some company just got the CD and transfered it to FLAC and claimed to have a HD file.

    I have a Onkyo TX-NR1009 biamped to Monitor Audio's BX5 speakers reading files from a Iomega 2TB NAS Drive. I am using decent cables on a regular leaving room. It's not High-End, but it gets the job done for me.


    *CLARIFICATION TO MY ORIGINAL REPLY*

    They are originally recorded at 48k 24 bit and then converted to 96k at mastering. This happens when the mastering engineer does some additional EQ and compression in the analog domain. This is done by playing the files, running them through analog gear and re-recording them at at the higher sample rate. That isn't the same as actually multi track recording them at the higher sample rate.
    Post edited by NHiding on
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    Good to know Rob - thank you!
    So, any suggestions on how to get these FLAC HD files onto a DVD for home theater playing? I don't have a fancy computer stereo hookup - but have a fantastic stereo & BR player I'm sure would play these files. Question is - how!? More specifically using an iMac running Mountain Lion.
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  • AAJC
    AAJC Calgary, AB, Canada Posts: 262
    Is there a reason for the two separate sites to download files from? Is the one provided in the first post a legit (i.e., given by the 10 Club) site to use?

    Curious if I should simply get the FLAC-HD files and use them in iTunes or go with the ALAC-HD files (never even heard of these until this thread).

    Cheers,
    AC
  • Just downloaded the Flac-HD files and they can not be transferred to my ipod. I did the normal conversion process for converting regular flac but it didn't work. Too bad cause it sounds great. I presume I will have to go back and purchase it again in regular flac.
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