Romney Plan Would Raise Taxes On 95% Of Americans

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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    cincybearcat wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    where are the jobs that were supposed to have been created in the last 9 years with these tax cuts???


    Where are the jobs from the economic stimulus that they need to raise taxes to do another round???


    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/politi ... e_add.html

    http://www.factcheck.org/2010/09/did-th ... eate-jobs/

    and I thought a major concern was "job-crushing" debt...

    adding revenues would address said debt...yes..?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,950
    inmytree wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    where are the jobs that were supposed to have been created in the last 9 years with these tax cuts???


    Where are the jobs from the economic stimulus that they need to raise taxes to do another round???


    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/politi ... e_add.html

    http://www.factcheck.org/2010/09/did-th ... eate-jobs/

    and I thought a major concern was "job-crushing" debt...

    adding revenues would address said debt...yes..?


    Let's so some math... $814 billion ; 3.3 million jobs...almost $247,000 per job created. ;)

    Not to mention, it didn't create an economy where those jobs remained after the stimulus ran out. We'd been better off just giving the $ away!!!! :D

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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    cincybearcat wrote:


    Let's so some math... $814 billion ; 3.3 million jobs...almost $247,000 per job created. ;)

    Not to mention, it didn't create an economy where those jobs remained after the stimulus ran out. We'd been better off just giving the $ away!!!! :D

    =

    you asked and I answered...

    you didn't like answer...so goal posts moved...

    :lol:
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,950
    inmytree wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:


    Let's so some math... $814 billion ; 3.3 million jobs...almost $247,000 per job created. ;)

    Not to mention, it didn't create an economy where those jobs remained after the stimulus ran out. We'd been better off just giving the $ away!!!! :D

    =

    you asked and I answered...

    you didn't like answer...so goal posts moved...

    :lol:

    I thought the goal of the stimulus was to stimulate the economy and create lasting jobs? NO? Was it always the plan to just spend a shit ton of money on jobs that go away? Damn, how'd I miss that.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    cincybearcat wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:


    Let's so some math... $814 billion ; 3.3 million jobs...almost $247,000 per job created. ;)

    Not to mention, it didn't create an economy where those jobs remained after the stimulus ran out. We'd been better off just giving the $ away!!!! :D

    =

    you asked and I answered...

    you didn't like answer...so goal posts moved...

    :lol:

    I thought the goal of the stimulus was to stimulate the economy and create lasting jobs? NO? Was it always the plan to just spend a shit ton of money on jobs that go away? Damn, how'd I miss that.

    yeah, I guess the economy would be better of if those 3.3 millions jobs were moved into the unemployment column....yes...? you are seriously saying we would be better off of those 3.3 million job been lost...yeah, you missed something...

    where are getting the "jobs went away" data...?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,698
    it is funny to me that christian groups are calling the gop position on taxes "immoral". i thought these people were the gop base?
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    where are the jobs that were supposed to have been created in the last 9 years with these tax cuts???

    Ahead of Friday's much-anticipated monthly jobs report, Romney trashed Obama for the nation's high unemployment rate and for fostering an environment which he described as hostile to job creators.

    "This isn't a statistic we are talking about. Twenty-three million Americans out of work. Twenty-three million!" Romney said during a rally in Golden, Colo., just outside Denver. "It's a tragedy. It's a moral failing."

    Citing Obama's 2008 speech at the Democratic National Convention just a few miles from his Thursday rally, Romney said the president had failed "by his own measure" to deliver on the promises he made during the last campaign. To prove it, the GOP candidate held up a "report card" listing what he described as Obama's "failed" promises.

    "I want to get people back to work," Romney said. "I care about this. I want to help the American people… His policies just haven't worked to get people working again. People are hurting and suffering."


    Dont you know even the prospect of higher taxes and uncertainty in the market creates this mess? Expected return calulations tuff. you're welcome
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,080
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    where are the jobs that were supposed to have been created in the last 9 years with these tax cuts???

    Ahead of Friday's much-anticipated monthly jobs report, Romney trashed Obama for the nation's high unemployment rate and for fostering an environment which he described as hostile to job creators.

    "This isn't a statistic we are talking about. Twenty-three million Americans out of work. Twenty-three million!" Romney said during a rally in Golden, Colo., just outside Denver. "It's a tragedy. It's a moral failing."

    Citing Obama's 2008 speech at the Democratic National Convention just a few miles from his Thursday rally, Romney said the president had failed "by his own measure" to deliver on the promises he made during the last campaign. To prove it, the GOP candidate held up a "report card" listing what he described as Obama's "failed" promises.

    "I want to get people back to work," Romney said. "I care about this. I want to help the American people… His policies just haven't worked to get people working again. People are hurting and suffering."


    Dont you know even the prospect of higher taxes and uncertainty in the market creates this mess? Expected return calulations tuff. you're welcome

    No shit we need to improve the economy, Mitt. But once again you haven't given us one reason why you can help with this other than extending tax breaks to the rich. We know that plan is horseshit and doesn't work.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,646
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    where are the jobs that were supposed to have been created in the last 9 years with these tax cuts???

    Ahead of Friday's much-anticipated monthly jobs report, Romney trashed Obama for the nation's high unemployment rate and for fostering an environment which he described as hostile to job creators.

    "This isn't a statistic we are talking about. Twenty-three million Americans out of work. Twenty-three million!" Romney said during a rally in Golden, Colo., just outside Denver. "It's a tragedy. It's a moral failing."

    Citing Obama's 2008 speech at the Democratic National Convention just a few miles from his Thursday rally, Romney said the president had failed "by his own measure" to deliver on the promises he made during the last campaign. To prove it, the GOP candidate held up a "report card" listing what he described as Obama's "failed" promises.

    "I want to get people back to work," Romney said. "I care about this. I want to help the American people… His policies just haven't worked to get people working again. People are hurting and suffering."


    Dont you know even the prospect of higher taxes and uncertainty in the market creates this mess? Expected return calulations tuff. you're welcome

    Maybe you should tell Romney about all the 'openings' Obama created that you cited earlier.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,698
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Ahead of Friday's much-anticipated monthly jobs report, Romney trashed Obama for the nation's high unemployment rate and for fostering an environment which he described as hostile to job creators.

    "This isn't a statistic we are talking about. Twenty-three million Americans out of work. Twenty-three million!" Romney said during a rally in Golden, Colo., just outside Denver. "It's a tragedy. It's a moral failing."

    Citing Obama's 2008 speech at the Democratic National Convention just a few miles from his Thursday rally, Romney said the president had failed "by his own measure" to deliver on the promises he made during the last campaign. To prove it, the GOP candidate held up a "report card" listing what he described as Obama's "failed" promises.

    "I want to get people back to work," Romney said. "I care about this. I want to help the American people… His policies just haven't worked to get people working again. People are hurting and suffering."


    Dont you know even the prospect of higher taxes and uncertainty in the market creates this mess? Expected return calulations tuff. you're welcome
    again, it is very difficult to try to reduce the unemployment rate when the fucking republicans in the house would rather hold 33 votes trying to overturn the affordable care act, and hold exactly ZERO votes on any of obama's jobs bills....

    if you don't believe me you can google it. do you have a defense for that failure to do their duty for the good of the country??


    they are trying to sabotage the recovery by keeping the unemployment rate high and stall hoping that obama loses so they can vote in favor of romney's ideas, which will not doubt be the same as obama's, just so that they can take the credit for fixing it, rather than trying to fix it now. it is disgusting.

    they will not vote to help create jobs because creating jobs is good for obama, and they can not have anything good for obama happen this close to the election... common sense dictates that...

    hoping for the country to fail is what they are doing. so before you go and cheerlead your 7th choice for the nominee, you should maybe look at why things have only slightly improved. and that reason is your people in the house...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,698
    Christian Leaders Blast GOP Tax Bill


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/0 ... Luke_62021

    WASHINGTON (RNS) A coalition of liberal Christian leaders blasted a GOP budget plan that would extend Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy while slashing key provisions for the poor.

    The bill, which is being used by both parties as part of election-year jockeying, would slash the Earned Income Tax Credit, which supplements wages of low-income workers, and the Child Tax Credit, which provides up to $1,000 financial support per child for poor working families.

    At the same time, the bill would extend Bush-era tax cuts for the highest income earners: individuals earning over $200,000 a year and families earning over $250,000.

    The tax cuts, which were renewed two years ago on a temporary basis, are set to expire at year's end.

    In a letter delivered to Capitol Hill on Wednesday (Aug. 1), 60 faith leaders urged Congress "to put families and workers before ideological agendas that favor the powerful."

    "To roll back tax credits for the poor to help fund tax breaks for the rich is simply morally reprehensible," said the Rev. Jim Wallis, president and CEO of the social justice organization Sojourners, who called the federal budget a "moral document" that should transcend party politics.

    The Rev. David Beckmann, president of the ecumenical hunger group Bread for the World, said letting tax benefits expire for the highest earners would create $830 billion in revenue over the next 10 years. This money, he said, could be spent on helping those who struggle with poverty.

    Beckmann added many working families rely on tax credits for necessities like food and shelter.

    "The food budget is usually the first thing families cut when times get tough, but tax credits like the EITC and CTC help struggling families put food on the table and make ends meet," he said.

    The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has also urged Congress to extend tax credits for the poor.

    The Senate narrowly passed a Democratic bill last week that would let expire tax cuts for families making $250,000 and over, or individuals making $200,000 and over, while extending breaks for middle-class taxpayers.

    If the House bill passes its bill, as expected, a committee of party leaders will meet to work out differences between the House and Senate bills.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    "His policies just haven't worked to get people working again. People are hurting and suffering."

    You mean the policies that were blocked by the Republicans in Congress before they had a chance to be implemented and to take effect?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,950
    It's always convent to blame your failings on the other guy. It's your job o get it done. What was the makeup of congress when Obama took office?
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  • brianlux
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    usamamasan1 wrote:
    guess again, he has his foot on the throat of the private sector. You see how much cash is on the sidelines waiting to play again? How long ago was it you were talking about how the unemployment rate was improving?

    Romney will usher in the NEXT AMERICAN CENTURY


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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    cincybearcat wrote:
    It's always convent to blame your failings on the other guy. It's your job o get it done. What was the makeup of congress when Obama took office?

    Because that's the question that should be asked here, right?

    Did the Republicans block every attempt of Obama's to fix the economy or didn't they?
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    cincybearcat wrote:
    It's always convent to blame your failings on the other guy. It's your job o get it done. What was the makeup of congress when Obama took office?

    clearly you're not familiar with the term "filibuster"... ;)
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,360
    inmytree wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    It's always convent to blame your failings on the other guy. It's your job o get it done. What was the makeup of congress when Obama took office?

    clearly you're not familiar with the term "filibuster"... ;)
    what about "cloture"? ;)
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    cincybearcat wrote:
    It's always convent to blame your failings on the other guy. It's your job o get it done. What was the makeup of congress when Obama took office?

    Boehner: "Sometimes I have to catch my breath and slow down because the rhetoric in this campaign is just so over the top. And that's because the President's policies have failed. Listen — 93% of Americans believe they're a part of the middle class. That's why you hear the President talk about the middle class every day, because he's talking to 93% of the American people. But the President has never created a job. He's never even had a real job for [God's] sake. And I can tell you from my dealings with him, he has no idea how the real world, that we actually live in, works."


    Woot

    Oh, and jobless rate 8.3%
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Boehner: "Sometimes I have to catch my breath and slow down because the rhetoric in this campaign is just so over the top. And that's because the President's policies have failed. Listen — 93% of Americans believe they're a part of the middle class. That's why you hear the President talk about the middle class every day, because he's talking to 93% of the American people. But the President has never created a job. He's never even had a real job for [God's] sake. And I can tell you from my dealings with him, he has no idea how the real world, that we actually live in, works."

    Says the man responsible for blocking every one of Obama's policies in order to protect the bank balances of his rich buddies. And then he has the audacity to use unemployment statistics as a stick to swing at Obama.

    Seriously, why does the working, and Middle Class, in America put up with these fucking clowns?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,950
    Byrnzie wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    It's always convent to blame your failings on the other guy. It's your job o get it done. What was the makeup of congress when Obama took office?

    Because that's the question that should be asked here, right?

    Did the Republicans block every attempt of Obama's to fix the economy or didn't they?


    I agree with you that they are part of the problem. Part.
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