The Guardian is actually famous for being a left leaning newspaper, quite the opposite from what you're suggesting. Criticising Romney's every step makes perfect sense.
The site needs to add a sarcasm smiley.
Maybe we can get Kat to work on it.
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Apologies, that went right over my head :oops: In my defence though, I was drinking.
i have not kept up w/the news but if romney really made those comments on brit soil 2 days ahead of the Olympics, it shows he's not ready for primetime. call it a gaffe or whatev but from what i just read, it screams management consultant not president.
someone earlier mentioned what would happen w/china, holy fk w/this guy he'd likely complain about the food being too spicy.
If it were China, no one would have a problem with him saying something bad.
yeah its not lot china is an important country to have good relations with :fp:
i know you were being sarcastic as well, but the dude has problems, when fox news and krauthammer or whatever his name is calls him out it's embarrassing.
the gop elites have got to be thinking of a back up plan, maybe an october surprise?
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JERUSALEM—Having publicly pledged a “solemn duty and moral imperative” to protect Israel, Mitt Romney told Jewish donors Monday that their culture is part of what has allowed them to be more economically successful than the nearby Palestinians.
“As you come here and you see the GDP per capita, for instance, in Israel which is about $21,000 dollars, and compare that with the GDP per capita just across the areas managed by the Palestinian Authority, which is more like $10,000 per capita, you notice such a dramatically stark difference in economic vitality,” the Republican presidential candidate told about 40 wealthy donors who breakfasted around a U-shaped table at the luxurious King David Hotel.
MORE:Mitt Romney would back Israeli military strike in Iran
The economic disparity between the Israelis and the Palestinians is actually much greater. Israel had a per capita gross domestic product of about $31,000 in 2011, while the West Bank and Gaza had a per capita GDP of just over $1,500, according to the World Bank.
Romney, seated next to billionaire casino owner Sheldon Adelson at the head of the table, said he had read books and relied on his own business experience to understand why the difference is so great.
“And as I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognize the power of at least culture and a few other things,” Romney said, citing an innovative business climate, the Jewish history of thriving in difficult circumstances and the “hand of providence”
The breakfast with top donors — including Adelson, New York Jets owner Woody Johnson and hedge fund manager Paul Singer — concluded Romney’s visit to Israel, the second leg of a three-nation overseas tour designed to bolster the his foreign policy credentials.
MORE:Romney team bars reporters from Jerusalem fundraiser
Standing on Israeli soil for the first time as the GOP’s presumptive presidential nominee, Romney on Sunday declared Jerusalem to be the capital of the Jewish state and said the United States has promised never to “look away from our passion and commitment to Israel.”
The status of Jerusalem is a critical issue in peace talks between the Israelis and the Palestinians.
“Those who believe in the two-state solution must realize that East Jerusalem is the capital of the Palestinian state,” senior Palestinian official Saeb Erekat told The Associated Press. “I don’t think that even during a U.S. presidential election campaign, destroying the two-state solution should be rewarded by Mr. Romney or others.”
During his visit to Israel, Romney did not meet with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas or visit the West Bank. He held a brief meeting with Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad.
Romney’s campaign says his trip abroad, which began in England last week, is aimed at improving the former Massachusetts governor’s foreign policy experience through a series of meetings with foreign leaders. The candidate has largely avoided direct criticism of U.S. President Barack Obama while on foreign soil.
MORE:Why ‘Mitt the Twit’ Romney may be the best thing to happen to London’s Olympics
The Jerusalem fundraiser, however, was a political event that raised more than $1 million for Romney’s campaign. It marks at least the second finance event during his tour. The first, in London, attracted about 250 people to a $2,500 per person fundraiser.
Both presidential candidates have aggressively courted American donors living abroad, a practice that is legal and has been used for decades.
Several donors were among those gathered in Jerusalem for Romney’s speech on Sunday.
Romney’s declaration that Jerusalem is Israel’s capital was keeping with claims made by Israeli governments for decades, even though the United States, like other nations, maintains its embassy in Tel Aviv. He did not say if he would order the embassy moved if he wins the White House, but strongly suggested so in a CNN interview.
His remarks on the subject during his speech drew a standing ovation from his audience, which included Adelson, the American businessman who has promised to donate more than $100 million to help defeat Obama.
Adelson was among a several donors who flew to Israel for a day of sightseeing with Romney in addition to private meetings with top Israeli officials.
A group of donors also met with a top aide to President Benjamin Netanyahu, one donor said on the condition of anonymity to discuss private meetings. After the meeting, the donors toured other historical sites in Jerusalem.
Romney met with Netanyahu and other leaders before the speech. He also visited the Western Wall, Judaism’s holiest site, where he was mobbed by worshippers.
In his remarks, Romney steered clear of overt criticism of Obama, even though he said the threat of a nuclear-armed Iran “has only become worse” in the past five years.
In an unspoken rebuttal to Obama and other critics, Romney said, “It is sometimes said that those who are the most committed to stopping the Iranian regime from securing nuclear weapons are reckless and provocative and inviting war.
“The opposite is true. We are the true peacemakers,” he said.
Romney flew to the Middle East from Britain, where he caused a stir by questioning whether officials there were fully prepared for the Olympic Games. A stop in Poland will complete his trip.
Four years ago, Obama visited Israel as a presidential candidate, part of a five-nation trip meant to establish his own foreign policy credentials.
A goal of Romney’s overseas trip is to demonstrate his confidence on the world stage, but his stop in Israel also was designed to appeal to evangelical voters at home and to cut into Obama’s support among Jewish voters and donors. A Gallup survey of Jewish voters released Friday showed Obama with a 68-25 edge over Romney.
Romney and other Republicans have said Obama is insufficiently supportive of Israel, noting statements the president has made about settlements and his handling of evident Iranian attempts to develop nuclear weapons.
In a March speech before a pro-Israel lobby in Washington, Obama warned of “loose talk of war” that serves only to drive up oil prices. “Now is the time to let our increased pressure sink in and sustain the broad international coalition we have built,” he said at the time.
AP writers Amy Teibel in Jerusalem and Steve Peoples in Washington contributed to this report
Yep, much better to just say nice things rather than actually talk about the realities. And he knows a thing or 2 about the Olympics. Not to mention, all he said was that there have been some issues and we'll have to see how London pulls it out. Not really that bad, unless of course you are just a miserable person waiting for the next reason to be outraged.
It was just totally rude and unnecessary, and he should have known better, ESPECIALLY because of his role in Salt Lake. It simply showed his inexperience (or lack of of ability) when it comes to diplomacy and tact, which is a pretty important part of the job he's interviewing for.
Oh, and I think he will get the US into a war with Iran if he wins the election. Good times.
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All in all, it may have done him more harm than good.... or not. Frankly, I think Romney could be exposed for some seedy sex scandal, and it still wouldn't change voters' minds. I think just about everyone's minds are already made up because the US is SO polarized at this point, the gap between the candidates is too large for really anyone to cross either way.
The presumptive Republican candidate in the the US presidential race told a $25,000-a-head (£16,000) fundraising event in Jerusalem: "As I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognise the power of at least culture and a few other things."
"I am overwhelmingly impressed with the hand of providence, whenever it chooses to apply itself, and also the greatness of the human spirit, and how individuals who reach for greatness and have purpose above themselves are able to build and accomplish things that could only be done by a species created in the image of God."
'A few other things'? Like $4 Billion of U.S Aid every year? And 40 years of U.S vetoes at the U.N in Israel's favour?
The presumptive Republican candidate in the the US presidential race told a $25,000-a-head (£16,000) fundraising event in Jerusalem: "As I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognise the power of at least culture and a few other things."
"I am overwhelmingly impressed with the hand of providence, whenever it chooses to apply itself, and also the greatness of the human spirit, and how individuals who reach for greatness and have purpose above themselves are able to build and accomplish things that could only be done by a species created in the image of God."
'A few other things'? Like $4 Billion of U.S Aid every year? And 40 years of U.S vetoes at the U.N in Israel's favour?
What a douchebag.
HUGE douchebag.
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Take Three: Mitt Romney Now Says He Stands By Palestinian ‘Culture’ Comments
On Sunday, Mitt Romney boldly declared that Israel’s economic superiority over the Palestinians was due to its culture. On Tuesday morning, he dismissed any notion that he had even discussed Palestinian culture. On Tuesday night, Romney reversed himself yet again, in an op-ed entitled “Culture Does Matter.”
“During my recent trip to Israel, I had suggested that the choices a society makes about its culture play a role in creating prosperity, and that the significant disparity between Israeli and Palestinian living standards was powerfully influenced by it,” Romney wrote in the National Review. “In some quarters, that comment became the subject of controversy. But what exactly accounts for prosperity if not culture?”
In an interview earlier the very same day with FOX News, Romney told interviewer Carl Cameron that he “did not speak about the Palestinian culture or the decisions made in their economy” and that he “certainly [doesn’t] intend to address that during my campaign.”
That interview appeared to be directly at odds with Romney’s original speech, in which he directly compared the per capita GDP of Israel and the Palestinian territories and attributed Israel’s comparative strength to “culture” and the “hand of providence.” It also directly contradicts the first paragraph of his National Review op-ed, in which he explicitly says he was comparing the two economies and cultures.
In his op-ed, Romney went on to make a point about economic policy, arguing that open markets and freedom were superior to closed communist systems and citing the former West Germany and East Germany as proof — two countries that, ironically, shared an identical national culture before being separated by war.
“The linkage between freedom and economic development has a universal applicability,” Romney wrote. “One only has to look at the contrast between East and West Germany, and between North and South Korea for the starkest demonstrations of the meaning of freedom and the absence of freedom.”
The unremarkable suggestion that capitalist democracy is superior to communist authoritarianism was hardly the source of the controversy over his Jerusalem remarks, however. Romney’s op-ed did not address the central objection Palestinian officials raised over his comments: that he suggested Palestinian poverty was due to “culture” without acknowledging that the territory is under a decades-long military occupation and residents face restrictions on movement and trade.
If I ran for President, I would let everyone see what I make and what I pay in taxes, and I'm sure I would be elected just for the fact that I'm getting fucked just like the rest of you. What's he hiding, and when are we, Americans, going to be treated equally, no matter what our salary or income is. If I pay xx% of my salary in taxes then so should everyone else in this country!
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Take Three: Mitt Romney Now Says He Stands By Palestinian ‘Culture’ Comments
On Sunday, Mitt Romney boldly declared that Israel’s economic superiority over the Palestinians was due to its culture. On Tuesday morning, he dismissed any notion that he had even discussed Palestinian culture. On Tuesday night, Romney reversed himself yet again, in an op-ed entitled “Culture Does Matter.”
“During my recent trip to Israel, I had suggested that the choices a society makes about its culture play a role in creating prosperity, and that the significant disparity between Israeli and Palestinian living standards was powerfully influenced by it,” Romney wrote in the National Review. “In some quarters, that comment became the subject of controversy. But what exactly accounts for prosperity if not culture?”
In an interview earlier the very same day with FOX News, Romney told interviewer Carl Cameron that he “did not speak about the Palestinian culture or the decisions made in their economy” and that he “certainly [doesn’t] intend to address that during my campaign.”
That interview appeared to be directly at odds with Romney’s original speech, in which he directly compared the per capita GDP of Israel and the Palestinian territories and attributed Israel’s comparative strength to “culture” and the “hand of providence.” It also directly contradicts the first paragraph of his National Review op-ed, in which he explicitly says he was comparing the two economies and cultures.
In his op-ed, Romney went on to make a point about economic policy, arguing that open markets and freedom were superior to closed communist systems and citing the former West Germany and East Germany as proof — two countries that, ironically, shared an identical national culture before being separated by war.
“The linkage between freedom and economic development has a universal applicability,” Romney wrote. “One only has to look at the contrast between East and West Germany, and between North and South Korea for the starkest demonstrations of the meaning of freedom and the absence of freedom.”
The unremarkable suggestion that capitalist democracy is superior to communist authoritarianism was hardly the source of the controversy over his Jerusalem remarks, however. Romney’s op-ed did not address the central objection Palestinian officials raised over his comments: that he suggested Palestinian poverty was due to “culture” without acknowledging that the territory is under a decades-long military occupation and residents face restrictions on movement and trade.
Yep, Israel's prosperity has nothing at all to do with it's annexation of all the best land in the region, including the Golan Heights, and the Palestinians relative poverty has nothing at all to do with the fact they've been under Israeli occupation for the past 40 years.
Yep, Israel's prosperity has nothing at all to do with it's annexation of all the best land in the region, including the Golan Heights, and the Palestinians relative poverty has nothing at all to do with the fact they've been under Israeli occupation for the past 40 years.
what is scary is that this wasn't an off the cuff remark taken out of context from a baited question from a reporter (not that he's taking questions from journalists) ... this was a scripted speech ... so, not only does this guy walk around talking utter stupidity - he is surrounded by people who advise him to utter stupidity ... and the real scary thing is people will still vote for this asshat ... :fp:
Yep, Israel's prosperity has nothing at all to do with it's annexation of all the best land in the region, including the Golan Heights, and the Palestinians relative poverty has nothing at all to do with the fact they've been under Israeli occupation for the past 40 years.
what is scary is that this wasn't an off the cuff remark taken out of context from a baited question from a reporter (not that he's taking questions from journalists) ... this was a scripted speech ... so, not only does this guy walk around talking utter stupidity - he is surrounded by people who advise him to utter stupidity ... and the real scary thing is people will still vote for this asshat ... :fp:
The man is a complete tool. A dangerous idiot. If this prick is elected President - that won't happen - the World will be well and truly fucked. Cue war with Iran, war on the environment, and a huge escalation in settlement construction in the Occupied territories, just for starters. Probably another attack on Lebanon too.
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The man is a complete tool. A dangerous idiot. If this prick is elected President - that won't happen - the World will be well and truly fucked. Cue war with Iran, war on the environment, and a huge escalation in settlement construction in the Occupied territories, just for starters. Probably another attack on Lebanon too.
he has people from the bush administration advising his campaign on foreign policy, and you can bet that some of them will be in his cabinet if he wins....
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
The man is a complete tool. A dangerous idiot. If this prick is elected President - that won't happen - the World will be well and truly fucked. Cue war with Iran, war on the environment, and a huge escalation in settlement construction in the Occupied territories, just for starters. Probably another attack on Lebanon too.
he has people from the bush administration advising his campaign on foreign policy, and you can bet that some of them will be in his cabinet if he wins....
Like Dick Cheney.
But then some people need war - that other people go and fight - to feel good about themselves. The thought of poor, brown-skinned foreigners being blown to smithereens is a turn-on for them.
Probably why they hate Obama so much - he hasn't given them the fix they need. Scaling down the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan has made their dicks go limp.
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Apologies, that went right over my head :oops: In my defence though, I was drinking.
yeah its not lot china is an important country to have good relations with :fp:
i know you were being sarcastic as well, but the dude has problems, when fox news and krauthammer or whatever his name is calls him out it's embarrassing.
the gop elites have got to be thinking of a back up plan, maybe an october surprise?
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That's rich.
Michelle Bachmann's long lost hillbilly cousin?
I was going to ask if you had a sense of humor...then I saw your next post.
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JERUSALEM—Having publicly pledged a “solemn duty and moral imperative” to protect Israel, Mitt Romney told Jewish donors Monday that their culture is part of what has allowed them to be more economically successful than the nearby Palestinians.
“As you come here and you see the GDP per capita, for instance, in Israel which is about $21,000 dollars, and compare that with the GDP per capita just across the areas managed by the Palestinian Authority, which is more like $10,000 per capita, you notice such a dramatically stark difference in economic vitality,” the Republican presidential candidate told about 40 wealthy donors who breakfasted around a U-shaped table at the luxurious King David Hotel.
MORE:Mitt Romney would back Israeli military strike in Iran
The economic disparity between the Israelis and the Palestinians is actually much greater. Israel had a per capita gross domestic product of about $31,000 in 2011, while the West Bank and Gaza had a per capita GDP of just over $1,500, according to the World Bank.
Romney, seated next to billionaire casino owner Sheldon Adelson at the head of the table, said he had read books and relied on his own business experience to understand why the difference is so great.
“And as I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognize the power of at least culture and a few other things,” Romney said, citing an innovative business climate, the Jewish history of thriving in difficult circumstances and the “hand of providence”
The breakfast with top donors — including Adelson, New York Jets owner Woody Johnson and hedge fund manager Paul Singer — concluded Romney’s visit to Israel, the second leg of a three-nation overseas tour designed to bolster the his foreign policy credentials.
MORE:Romney team bars reporters from Jerusalem fundraiser
Standing on Israeli soil for the first time as the GOP’s presumptive presidential nominee, Romney on Sunday declared Jerusalem to be the capital of the Jewish state and said the United States has promised never to “look away from our passion and commitment to Israel.”
The status of Jerusalem is a critical issue in peace talks between the Israelis and the Palestinians.
“Those who believe in the two-state solution must realize that East Jerusalem is the capital of the Palestinian state,” senior Palestinian official Saeb Erekat told The Associated Press. “I don’t think that even during a U.S. presidential election campaign, destroying the two-state solution should be rewarded by Mr. Romney or others.”
During his visit to Israel, Romney did not meet with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas or visit the West Bank. He held a brief meeting with Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad.
Romney’s campaign says his trip abroad, which began in England last week, is aimed at improving the former Massachusetts governor’s foreign policy experience through a series of meetings with foreign leaders. The candidate has largely avoided direct criticism of U.S. President Barack Obama while on foreign soil.
MORE:Why ‘Mitt the Twit’ Romney may be the best thing to happen to London’s Olympics
The Jerusalem fundraiser, however, was a political event that raised more than $1 million for Romney’s campaign. It marks at least the second finance event during his tour. The first, in London, attracted about 250 people to a $2,500 per person fundraiser.
Both presidential candidates have aggressively courted American donors living abroad, a practice that is legal and has been used for decades.
Several donors were among those gathered in Jerusalem for Romney’s speech on Sunday.
Romney’s declaration that Jerusalem is Israel’s capital was keeping with claims made by Israeli governments for decades, even though the United States, like other nations, maintains its embassy in Tel Aviv. He did not say if he would order the embassy moved if he wins the White House, but strongly suggested so in a CNN interview.
His remarks on the subject during his speech drew a standing ovation from his audience, which included Adelson, the American businessman who has promised to donate more than $100 million to help defeat Obama.
Adelson was among a several donors who flew to Israel for a day of sightseeing with Romney in addition to private meetings with top Israeli officials.
A group of donors also met with a top aide to President Benjamin Netanyahu, one donor said on the condition of anonymity to discuss private meetings. After the meeting, the donors toured other historical sites in Jerusalem.
Romney met with Netanyahu and other leaders before the speech. He also visited the Western Wall, Judaism’s holiest site, where he was mobbed by worshippers.
In his remarks, Romney steered clear of overt criticism of Obama, even though he said the threat of a nuclear-armed Iran “has only become worse” in the past five years.
In an unspoken rebuttal to Obama and other critics, Romney said, “It is sometimes said that those who are the most committed to stopping the Iranian regime from securing nuclear weapons are reckless and provocative and inviting war.
“The opposite is true. We are the true peacemakers,” he said.
Romney flew to the Middle East from Britain, where he caused a stir by questioning whether officials there were fully prepared for the Olympic Games. A stop in Poland will complete his trip.
Four years ago, Obama visited Israel as a presidential candidate, part of a five-nation trip meant to establish his own foreign policy credentials.
A goal of Romney’s overseas trip is to demonstrate his confidence on the world stage, but his stop in Israel also was designed to appeal to evangelical voters at home and to cut into Obama’s support among Jewish voters and donors. A Gallup survey of Jewish voters released Friday showed Obama with a 68-25 edge over Romney.
Romney and other Republicans have said Obama is insufficiently supportive of Israel, noting statements the president has made about settlements and his handling of evident Iranian attempts to develop nuclear weapons.
In a March speech before a pro-Israel lobby in Washington, Obama warned of “loose talk of war” that serves only to drive up oil prices. “Now is the time to let our increased pressure sink in and sustain the broad international coalition we have built,” he said at the time.
AP writers Amy Teibel in Jerusalem and Steve Peoples in Washington contributed to this report
It has?
Okay, saw the follow-up posts. Carry on. Just checking.
Oh, and I think he will get the US into a war with Iran if he wins the election. Good times.
All in all, it may have done him more harm than good.... or not. Frankly, I think Romney could be exposed for some seedy sex scandal, and it still wouldn't change voters' minds. I think just about everyone's minds are already made up because the US is SO polarized at this point, the gap between the candidates is too large for really anyone to cross either way.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19052292
The presumptive Republican candidate in the the US presidential race told a $25,000-a-head (£16,000) fundraising event in Jerusalem: "As I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognise the power of at least culture and a few other things."
"I am overwhelmingly impressed with the hand of providence, whenever it chooses to apply itself, and also the greatness of the human spirit, and how individuals who reach for greatness and have purpose above themselves are able to build and accomplish things that could only be done by a species created in the image of God."
'A few other things'? Like $4 Billion of U.S Aid every year? And 40 years of U.S vetoes at the U.N in Israel's favour?
What a douchebag.
Take Three: Mitt Romney Now Says He Stands By Palestinian ‘Culture’ Comments
On Sunday, Mitt Romney boldly declared that Israel’s economic superiority over the Palestinians was due to its culture. On Tuesday morning, he dismissed any notion that he had even discussed Palestinian culture. On Tuesday night, Romney reversed himself yet again, in an op-ed entitled “Culture Does Matter.”
“During my recent trip to Israel, I had suggested that the choices a society makes about its culture play a role in creating prosperity, and that the significant disparity between Israeli and Palestinian living standards was powerfully influenced by it,” Romney wrote in the National Review. “In some quarters, that comment became the subject of controversy. But what exactly accounts for prosperity if not culture?”
In an interview earlier the very same day with FOX News, Romney told interviewer Carl Cameron that he “did not speak about the Palestinian culture or the decisions made in their economy” and that he “certainly [doesn’t] intend to address that during my campaign.”
That interview appeared to be directly at odds with Romney’s original speech, in which he directly compared the per capita GDP of Israel and the Palestinian territories and attributed Israel’s comparative strength to “culture” and the “hand of providence.” It also directly contradicts the first paragraph of his National Review op-ed, in which he explicitly says he was comparing the two economies and cultures.
In his op-ed, Romney went on to make a point about economic policy, arguing that open markets and freedom were superior to closed communist systems and citing the former West Germany and East Germany as proof — two countries that, ironically, shared an identical national culture before being separated by war.
“The linkage between freedom and economic development has a universal applicability,” Romney wrote. “One only has to look at the contrast between East and West Germany, and between North and South Korea for the starkest demonstrations of the meaning of freedom and the absence of freedom.”
The unremarkable suggestion that capitalist democracy is superior to communist authoritarianism was hardly the source of the controversy over his Jerusalem remarks, however. Romney’s op-ed did not address the central objection Palestinian officials raised over his comments: that he suggested Palestinian poverty was due to “culture” without acknowledging that the territory is under a decades-long military occupation and residents face restrictions on movement and trade.
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Yep, Israel's prosperity has nothing at all to do with it's annexation of all the best land in the region, including the Golan Heights, and the Palestinians relative poverty has nothing at all to do with the fact they've been under Israeli occupation for the past 40 years.
what is scary is that this wasn't an off the cuff remark taken out of context from a baited question from a reporter (not that he's taking questions from journalists) ... this was a scripted speech ... so, not only does this guy walk around talking utter stupidity - he is surrounded by people who advise him to utter stupidity ... and the real scary thing is people will still vote for this asshat ... :fp:
The man is a complete tool. A dangerous idiot. If this prick is elected President - that won't happen - the World will be well and truly fucked. Cue war with Iran, war on the environment, and a huge escalation in settlement construction in the Occupied territories, just for starters. Probably another attack on Lebanon too.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Like Dick Cheney.
But then some people need war - that other people go and fight - to feel good about themselves. The thought of poor, brown-skinned foreigners being blown to smithereens is a turn-on for them.
Probably why they hate Obama so much - he hasn't given them the fix they need. Scaling down the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan has made their dicks go limp.