I'll give a general answer. Pearl Jam's albums from about 1996-2005 came out at a time when Vinyl was at its least popular. IE the albums put out during this period weren't intended to be limited edition. They easily created enough copies to satisfy demand when each album came out. If you combine the low popularity of Vinyl with the albums in this era being the least mainstream of PJ's catalog. It's a recipe for not having many copies out there.
I think Binaural probably hits the sweet spot of both. One of PJ's least mainstream albums that came out at a time when Vinyl really wasn't popular anymore. It probably meant they didn't need to press alot of copies at the time to deal with demand. I bought it at a record store a few months after it came out. It wasn't superhard to find in 2000.
It won't be for long - reissue of No Code and then Binaural should be coming! Prices of original pressing will then drop dramatically, if the first pressing matters to you. C'mon reissues! I wish they'd get a move on with them now that vinyl is making a come back.
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Thanks Zod!
I'm only missing Yield, No Code, and Binaural Vinyl.
Did 10c ever say how long till the Yield / No Code Super Deluxe Box Set will come out?
Or if ever?
Thanks Zod!
I'm only missing Yield, No Code, and Binaural Vinyl.
Did 10c ever say how long till the Yield / No Code Super Deluxe Box Set will come out?
Or if ever?
I've seen this mentioned before... but I don't get it. Why would a Yield/No Code box set even be made? Why would those two albums be put together?? It doesn't make sense to me. I hope they don't do that. If they have to make a box set (don't get that either. I don't see the point, when they release each album individually anyway), why wouldn't it be a No Code/Binaural box set? And then a Yield/Avocado box set (Riot Act stands alone )? Because that would make WAY more sense.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
As someone who has only been collecting (and rocking out to) vinyl only the past year I find collecting Pearl Jam vinyl pretty frustrating. I'm not a huge Foo Fighters Fan, but I've managed to get all their records on vinyl for a cheap price, because once vinyl took off again, they reissued everything. Fans wanted it, and it made good business sense.
What I really want is more Pearl Jam vinyl. At first I found the steep ebay (I think the forum is a far better place to buy vinyls) prices ridiculous, but now I'm willing to pay some of those. I'd rather still buy from you guys however.
I think eventually I'll wind up buying them all, and getting a second mortgage and/or divorce.
So hopefully there will be some more reissues in the future!
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Right. If we all want vinyl prices to go down before the reissues, then we all have to stop paying so much for them and force the sellers to lower. Since none of us have any will power as far as I can tell, that isn't going to happen! I'm done with $175 vinyl though. I guess I got it out of my system. I'm waiting for the reissues no matter what from now on.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Right. If we all want vinyl prices to go down before the reissues, then we all have to stop paying so much for them and force the sellers to lower. Since none of us have any will power as far as I can tell, that isn't going to happen! I'm done with $175 vinyl though. I guess I got it out of my system. I'm waiting for the reissues no matter what from now on.
I wanted all the vinyl (need Binaural, Lost Dogs and PJ20), but have given up. I did purchase No Code and Riot Act from members here at very good prices and am thankful for that. I just can't see me dropping several hundred on a couple of records. It's just not worth it and it pains me each time I see a "Sealed Lost Dogs for sale" thread. Open the fucker and listen!!
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Right. If we all want vinyl prices to go down before the reissues, then we all have to stop paying so much for them and force the sellers to lower. Since none of us have any will power as far as I can tell, that isn't going to happen! I'm done with $175 vinyl though. I guess I got it out of my system. I'm waiting for the reissues no matter what from now on.
I wanted all the vinyl (need Binaural, Lost Dogs and PJ20), but have given up. I did purchase No Code and Riot Act from members here at very good prices and am thankful for that. I just can't see me dropping several hundred on a couple of records. It's just not worth it and it pains me each time I see a "Sealed Lost Dogs for sale" thread. Open the fucker and listen!!
It's a green disease when it comes to spinning the black circle with this band.
I can't believe people have sealed first pressings!! Although it makes me want them really bad. I like having mint vinyl, and that's the only way you can be guaranteed that it's in perfect condition. I stopped at No Code (wonder if that reissue will have the same amazing presentation as the original? The Vitalogy reissue is actually NICER than the first pressing - the jacket is textured. Otherwise it's identical). I drool a little when I see sealed Riot Act for sale, but I resist. Lost Dogs would be great... wonder if they'll ever reissue that?? What I REALLY want is Temple of the Dog. I'm PRAYING that someone decides to reissue that album!! They really should now. With PJ and Soundgarden touring, now would be a perfect time for that treat.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
But I thought I heard that they were taking a break with putting out reissues-
(and a 10c break could be forever...)
I hope they know how desperate we are for more Vinyl Reissues.....
But I thought I heard that they were taking a break with putting out reissues-
(and a 10c break could be forever...)
I hope they know how desperate we are for more Vinyl Reissues.....
I think that was just the rumor mill. Someone said in some thread somewhere that they thought 10C would take a break, and someone else guessed that they'd reissue them on each of their 10 year anniversaries or whatever ... all random conjecture as far as I know. 10C has never said anything about a schedule for reissues. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I thought it might have been mentioned on the AET radio show one day that they were taking a break....
Plus I think they were disappointed with the VS/Vitalogy sales...
I could be totally wrong....
I hope....
I thought it might have been mentioned on the AET radio show one day that they were taking a break....
Plus I think they were disappointed with the VS/Vitalogy sales...
I could be totally wrong....
I hope....
Have never seen or heard anything to suggest there was anything said by 10C. If they said something about a break, I believe them, but I don't think that would mean a forever break. More like a couple years.... I'm not too surprised about the box set though. I think the box set idea is stupid, and that's why it didn't sell well. Why buy the Vs/Vitalogy box set for all that money when you can get both regular reissues for $12 each?? I mean, seriously. All they have to do is release each album on its own and stop worrying about the gimmicks. I say there is no way they won't reissue every album (and drop the box sets). PJ values vinyl too much to stop after only 3.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
But the notebooks/scrapbook and extra songs on the CD's
are pretty cool in the Super Deluxe Box Sets...
Meh. Yeah sure, some fans obviously want it. But clearly not enough want to pay that kind of price for a scrapbook and a couple of extra songs that anyone can get for free on Gremmie.net or whatever. It's pretty cool, but not for that kind of money; I don't think it's worth it personally. Times are tough. *shrug* Hey, if they can sell 'em, great. Just doesn't seem like they can, or not as well as they'd hoped.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
But I'm like you-
I just want to complete my vinyl right now!
No Code, Yield, and Binaural....
I need Binaural, Riot Act, Yield, AND Avocado. :( And all the non-studio stuff aside from PJ20, i.e. Lost Dogs, LO2L, etc. And no hope for buying a Benny, so praying for a reissue of that some day too. Come on reissues! HAPPEN PLEASE!!
So mad that I was too stupid to understand the value of vinyl when tapes and CDs came along. But nooooo, I thought it was more important to be able to play everything in my walkman, and ditched vinyl completely by 1989. And I had a turntable. I just turned my back. Stupid stupid stupid! Well, at least I saw the light eventually. But man, I wish I'd bought all those records when they were released!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I just recently got into vinyl-
the good thing though is that all my other favorite bands vinyl i have found for used cheap...
Everyone worth listening to is doing vinyl now, and I'm so happy about that!! Trying to play catch up is hard though. My vinyl-free gap goes from '89 to last year! Ouch! I turn back to my collection before tapes, and I'm staring at Michael Jackson Thriller, the Footloose Soundtrack, Rick Springfield, and Wham!. :fp:
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I thought it might have been mentioned on the AET radio show one day that they were taking a break....
Plus I think they were disappointed with the VS/Vitalogy sales...
I could be totally wrong....
I hope....
I get the same vibe. The Vs/Vitalogy sets didn't sell as well as they hoped. Mainly because they've had a few sales (free shipping, free vault #1 etc..) to try and clear them out. I'm guessing that's made them think twice about reissues.
The downside of that is that the first 3 albums were the easiest to obtain on vinyl before the reissues. The original mixing is fantastic (and far superior to modern mixing). The need for a reissue vs/vitalogy was much less need than 10. IE at least 10 benefited from a new remixed version.
My instinct tells me the band/10c were disappointed in the vs/vitalogy sales. Hopefully they realize that there's alot more demand for the subsequent albums as they didn't have nearly as many copies issued.
When we used to have the old rumor pit you would often see ideas that got left on the backburner. I hope it doesn't happen with the reissues.
I thought it might have been mentioned on the AET radio show one day that they were taking a break....
Plus I think they were disappointed with the VS/Vitalogy sales...
I could be totally wrong....
I hope....
I get the same vibe. The Vs/Vitalogy sets didn't sell as well as they hoped. Mainly because they've had a few sales (free shipping, free vault #1 etc..) to try and clear them out. I'm guessing that's made them think twice about reissues.
The downside of that is that the first 3 albums were the easiest to obtain on vinyl before the reissues. The original mixing is fantastic (and far superior to modern mixing). The need for a reissue vs/vitalogy was much less need than 10. IE at least 10 benefited from a new remixed version.
My instinct tells me the band/10c were disappointed in the vs/vitalogy sales. Hopefully they realize that there's alot more demand for the subsequent albums as they didn't have nearly as many copies issued.
When we used to have the old rumor pit you would often see ideas that got left on the backburner. I hope it doesn't happen with the reissues.
I'm thinking that made them think twice about deluxe combined box set reissues. Not reissues. There is no way Pearl Jam isn't going to reissue all their albums after having done it with the first 3 (the normal reissues, not the box sets).
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
. I think the box set idea is stupid, and that's why it didn't sell well. Why buy the Vs/Vitalogy box set for all that money when you can get both regular reissues for $12 each?? I mean, seriously. All they have to do is release each album on its own and stop worrying about the gimmicks. I say there is no way they won't reissue every album (and drop the box sets). PJ values vinyl too much to stop after only 3.
They did release the re-issue albums individually. The box sets are geared toward more hardcore fans who want all they can get of Pearl Jam. They re-issued Ten in 4 different formats: Box set, vinyl only, CD, and digitally. Clearly they were trying to please everybody. Same with Vs/Vitalogy. The box sets are just the premium version. They included DITP and Orpheum in the box sets exclusively to entice vinyl lovers to buy the box sets. In the end, people will only buy what is in their best interests.
. I think the box set idea is stupid, and that's why it didn't sell well. Why buy the Vs/Vitalogy box set for all that money when you can get both regular reissues for $12 each?? I mean, seriously. All they have to do is release each album on its own and stop worrying about the gimmicks. I say there is no way they won't reissue every album (and drop the box sets). PJ values vinyl too much to stop after only 3.
They did release the re-issue albums individually. The box sets are geared toward more hardcore fans who want all they can get of Pearl Jam. They re-issued Ten in 4 different formats: Box set, vinyl only, CD, and digitally. Clearly they were trying to please everybody. Same with Vs/Vitalogy. The box sets are just the premium version. They included DITP and Orpheum in the box sets exclusively to entice vinyl lovers to buy the box sets. In the end, people will only buy what is in their best interests.
Yeah I know. I own all the regular reissues and think the box sets aren't working for them ... you just repeated everything I mentioned ... Not sure you read what I said clearly. As I said, you can get the normal reissues for $12 each, so I don't see why many people would spend that much on the box sets.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I thought it might have been mentioned on the AET radio show one day that they were taking a break....
Plus I think they were disappointed with the VS/Vitalogy sales...
I could be totally wrong....
I hope....
If so I know why. No DVD video included in the package. With Ten, they included a DVD, MTV Unplugged. Sweet right? The Vs. / Vitalogy combo. 2 amazing records & 2 amazing tours, they didn't include not even one single DVD video in the package. If they included say Live in Atlanta '94 DVD or Melbourne '95 DVD, that would surely off boosted the sales of this release. For their next project (No Code / Yield), let's all hope they include a DVD or a Blu-ray disc in the combo box set.
I thought it might have been mentioned on the AET radio show one day that they were taking a break....
Plus I think they were disappointed with the VS/Vitalogy sales...
I could be totally wrong....
I hope....
If so I know why. No DVD video included in the package. With Ten, they included a DVD, MTV Unplugged. Sweet right? The Vs. / Vitalogy combo. 2 amazing records & 2 amazing tours, they didn't include not even one single DVD video in the package. If they included say Live in Atlanta '94 DVD or Melbourne '95 DVD, that would surely off boosted the sales of this release. For their next project (No Code / Yield), let's all hope they include a DVD or a Blu-ray disc in the combo box set.
Please explain to me why No Code and Yield would be in a box set together. People keep talking about it, so I assume 10C said something about this coming?? I want to know why they would package these two albums together. Seems dumb to me.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Finaly got them all, waiting them out at Ebay i was able to get
No code 100$, Yield 140 (mint in plastic, actually had a hard time taking it off), Binaural 200 (yeah, auch), Riot act 100 $ and Avocado 140 Mint (it says, havent recived it yet).
All in all not to bad.. and im very very happy that i can finaly listen to them all on vinyl. And no... i just could not wait ... (a hole lot cheaper for me though as i am from Norway and the dollar value is like 50% less)..
Just came home from a PJ Gig, Olso, Spektrum ..Awsome! show!
Please explain to me why No Code and Yield would be in a box set together. People keep talking about it, so I assume 10C said something about this coming?? I want to know why they would package these two albums together. Seems dumb to me. Also, if they are doing that, I hope they're planning on reissuing regular albums in order, meaning they'd have to release No Code, Binaural, RIot Act, AND Yield before doing this silly box set??
because vs/vitalogy came in one box and yield/no code are the next two chronologically?
I've also felt that PJ albums (except for ten) feel like the come in pairs. Vs/Vitalogy, No Code/Yield, Binaural/Riot Act, ST/Backspacer.
No Code and Yield are the Jack Iron's albums, they have their own vibe, and you can feel his influence all over them. Vs/Vitalogy are the Dave Abruzze era albums.
Please explain to me why No Code and Yield would be in a box set together. People keep talking about it, so I assume 10C said something about this coming?? I want to know why they would package these two albums together. Seems dumb to me. Also, if they are doing that, I hope they're planning on reissuing regular albums in order, meaning they'd have to release No Code, Binaural, RIot Act, AND Yield before doing this silly box set??
because vs/vitalogy came in one box and yield/no code are the next two chronologically?
I've also felt that PJ albums (except for ten) feel like the come in pairs. Vs/Vitalogy, No Code/Yield, Binaural/Riot Act, ST/Backspacer.
No Code and Yield are the Jack Iron's albums, they have their own vibe, and you can feel his influence all over them. Vs/Vitalogy are the Dave Abruzze era albums.
Yeah, you know I was having a massive brain fart and got the order of the albums wrong. :fp: I forgot Yield came before Binaural. If they go that way, it would have been way better to go Ten/Vs, Vitalogy/No Code, Yield/Binaural... But still... box sets are dumb. Just my opinion. I know some people like fancy things. I guess I'm old school. Although I do like a nice insert.
Anyway, cannot WAIT for the next normal reissues!!!! Hurry up Pearl Jam, please!! I need Riot Act!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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I'll give a general answer. Pearl Jam's albums from about 1996-2005 came out at a time when Vinyl was at its least popular. IE the albums put out during this period weren't intended to be limited edition. They easily created enough copies to satisfy demand when each album came out. If you combine the low popularity of Vinyl with the albums in this era being the least mainstream of PJ's catalog. It's a recipe for not having many copies out there.
I think Binaural probably hits the sweet spot of both. One of PJ's least mainstream albums that came out at a time when Vinyl really wasn't popular anymore. It probably meant they didn't need to press alot of copies at the time to deal with demand. I bought it at a record store a few months after it came out. It wasn't superhard to find in 2000.
I'm only missing Yield, No Code, and Binaural Vinyl.
Did 10c ever say how long till the Yield / No Code Super Deluxe Box Set will come out?
Or if ever?
What I really want is more Pearl Jam vinyl. At first I found the steep ebay (I think the forum is a far better place to buy vinyls) prices ridiculous, but now I'm willing to pay some of those. I'd rather still buy from you guys however.
I think eventually I'll wind up buying them all, and getting a second mortgage and/or divorce.
So hopefully there will be some more reissues in the future!
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I wanted all the vinyl (need Binaural, Lost Dogs and PJ20), but have given up. I did purchase No Code and Riot Act from members here at very good prices and am thankful for that. I just can't see me dropping several hundred on a couple of records. It's just not worth it and it pains me each time I see a "Sealed Lost Dogs for sale" thread. Open the fucker and listen!!
It's a green disease when it comes to spinning the black circle with this band.
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(and a 10c break could be forever...)
I hope they know how desperate we are for more Vinyl Reissues.....
Plus I think they were disappointed with the VS/Vitalogy sales...
I could be totally wrong....
I hope....
are pretty cool in the Super Deluxe Box Sets...
I just want to complete my vinyl right now!
No Code, Yield, and Binaural....
So mad that I was too stupid to understand the value of vinyl when tapes and CDs came along. But nooooo, I thought it was more important to be able to play everything in my walkman, and ditched vinyl completely by 1989. And I had a turntable. I just turned my back. Stupid stupid stupid! Well, at least I saw the light eventually. But man, I wish I'd bought all those records when they were released!
the good thing though is that all my other favorite bands vinyl i have found for used cheap...
I get the same vibe. The Vs/Vitalogy sets didn't sell as well as they hoped. Mainly because they've had a few sales (free shipping, free vault #1 etc..) to try and clear them out. I'm guessing that's made them think twice about reissues.
The downside of that is that the first 3 albums were the easiest to obtain on vinyl before the reissues. The original mixing is fantastic (and far superior to modern mixing). The need for a reissue vs/vitalogy was much less need than 10. IE at least 10 benefited from a new remixed version.
My instinct tells me the band/10c were disappointed in the vs/vitalogy sales. Hopefully they realize that there's alot more demand for the subsequent albums as they didn't have nearly as many copies issued.
When we used to have the old rumor pit you would often see ideas that got left on the backburner. I hope it doesn't happen with the reissues.
They did release the re-issue albums individually. The box sets are geared toward more hardcore fans who want all they can get of Pearl Jam. They re-issued Ten in 4 different formats: Box set, vinyl only, CD, and digitally. Clearly they were trying to please everybody. Same with Vs/Vitalogy. The box sets are just the premium version. They included DITP and Orpheum in the box sets exclusively to entice vinyl lovers to buy the box sets. In the end, people will only buy what is in their best interests.
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If so I know why. No DVD video included in the package. With Ten, they included a DVD, MTV Unplugged. Sweet right? The Vs. / Vitalogy combo. 2 amazing records & 2 amazing tours, they didn't include not even one single DVD video in the package. If they included say Live in Atlanta '94 DVD or Melbourne '95 DVD, that would surely off boosted the sales of this release. For their next project (No Code / Yield), let's all hope they include a DVD or a Blu-ray disc in the combo box set.
No code 100$, Yield 140 (mint in plastic, actually had a hard time taking it off), Binaural 200 (yeah, auch), Riot act 100 $ and Avocado 140 Mint (it says, havent recived it yet).
All in all not to bad.. and im very very happy that i can finaly listen to them all on vinyl. And no... i just could not wait ... (a hole lot cheaper for me though as i am from Norway and the dollar value is like 50% less)..
Just came home from a PJ Gig, Olso, Spektrum ..Awsome! show!
because vs/vitalogy came in one box and yield/no code are the next two chronologically?
I've also felt that PJ albums (except for ten) feel like the come in pairs. Vs/Vitalogy, No Code/Yield, Binaural/Riot Act, ST/Backspacer.
No Code and Yield are the Jack Iron's albums, they have their own vibe, and you can feel his influence all over them. Vs/Vitalogy are the Dave Abruzze era albums.
Anyway, cannot WAIT for the next normal reissues!!!! Hurry up Pearl Jam, please!! I need Riot Act!