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Binaural original track listing

smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
edited November 2013 in The Porch
Has anyone listened to Binaural with the original track listing, not the one that came out with the cd? I tried it today and wow - Binaural is my favorite album and the original track listing I find more refreshing and paced better. Here's a list -

Original track listing

"Breakerfall"
"Insignificance"
"Evacuation"
"Letter to the Dead" - aka - "Sad"
"Rival"
"Grievance"
"Gods Dice"
"Light Years"
"Of the Girl"
"Thin Air"
"Nothing as It Seems"
"Fatal"
"Sleight of Hand"
"Soon Forget"
"In the Moonlight"
"Parting Ways"
"Education"


Final track listing

1. "Breakerfall"      
2. "Gods' Dice"  
3. "Evacuation"
4. "Light Years"
5. "Nothing as It Seems"
6. "Thin Air"  
7. "Insignificance"      
8. "Of the Girl"
9. "Grievance"
10. "Rival"
11. "Sleight of Hand"
12. "Soon Forget"
13. "Parting Ways"


Try it the original way and let me know what you think!


Edit -

If you like this try playing Riot Act - in this order with the b sides mixed in. Here's the track list.

Riot Act New Tracklist

Can't keep
Save you
Undone
Love Boat Captain
Crop duster
Ghost
Down
I am mine
Otherside
Thumbing my way
You Are
Get right
Green disease
Help help
Bush leaguer
1/2 Full
Arc
All or none
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    I like the original... It would have been pretty long though
  • oona leftoona left Posts: 1,677
    This looks interesting. Long (as noted above), but rich.
  • ten-vs-vitalogyten-vs-vitalogy Posts: 218
    Is that original track listing (which is awesome btw) official or just a mildly educated guess? I know it's on wiki but is it just some guy from Sony who sent it out or was it actually what the band where considering?
    I can't imagine Education finishing the album especially considering their track record of finishing each album with a slow burner.

    As an aside, Sad is one of their greatest non album tracks.
  • ten-vs-vitalogyten-vs-vitalogy Posts: 218
    Oh and I should add - Great idea to make a playlist of the 'original' tracklist and yeah it's an astounding album!!
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    ten-vs-vitalogy wrote:
    Is that original track listing (which is awesome btw) official or just a mildly educated guess? I know it's on wiki but is it just some guy from Sony who sent it out or was it actually what the band where considering?
    I can't imagine Education finishing the album especially considering their track record of finishing each album with a slow burner.

    As an aside, Sad is one of their greatest non album tracks.

    I have to agree with Sad. That would have been a great addition to the album
  • ten-vs-vitalogyten-vs-vitalogy Posts: 218
    A great irony in my concert going is that I've had the joy of seeing 'Sad', 'Education' & 'Hitchhiker' all non album Binaural era tracks live, yet I've never seen one of my all time favourites from this album (and their entire catalogue) 'Of the Girl'!
    funny how things like that go.
  • Savage TongueSavage Tongue Posts: 580
    I was just thinking the other day that the tracks on Binaural were arranged haphazardly and could have flowed better. I never knew there was a different arrangement till this thread.
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,777
    Education would have been a poor closing song
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  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    ten-vs-vitalogy wrote:
    Is that original track listing (which is awesome btw) official or just a mildly educated guess? I know it's on wiki but is it just some guy from Sony who sent it out or was it actually what the band where considering?
    I can't imagine Education finishing the album especially considering their track record of finishing each album with a slow burner.

    As an aside, Sad is one of their greatest non album tracks.

    This is taken from wikipedia...
    Savage Tongue wrote:
    I was just thinking the other day that the tracks on Binaural were arranged haphazardly and could have flowed better. I never knew there was a different arrangement till this thread.

    I like this flow better. Maybe switch the last two so parting ways is last.

    I like the beginning - brakeherfall into insignificance .. Also like how the 1st 7 songs rock hard then it mellows out and the combo of the girl into thin air into NAIS into fatal into sleight of hand is a nice combo also.

    Has anyone actually made this playlist? I like it!
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Am I the only one that thinks the typing at the end was essentially useless?
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    smanchac1 wrote:
    ten-vs-vitalogy wrote:
    Is that original track listing (which is awesome btw) official or just a mildly educated guess? I know it's on wiki but is it just some guy from Sony who sent it out or was it actually what the band where considering?
    I can't imagine Education finishing the album especially considering their track record of finishing each album with a slow burner.

    As an aside, Sad is one of their greatest non album tracks.

    This is taken from wikipedia...
    Savage Tongue wrote:
    I was just thinking the other day that the tracks on Binaural were arranged haphazardly and could have flowed better. I never knew there was a different arrangement till this thread.

    I like this flow better. Maybe switch the last two so parting ways is last.

    I like the beginning - brakeherfall into insignificance .. Also like how the 1st 7 songs rock hard then it mellows out and the combo of the girl into thin air into NAIS into fatal into sleight of hand is a nice combo also.

    Has anyone actually made this playlist? I like it!

    Um... yeah I could put it on Spotify
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    I have it all set up on spotify if by some chance you couldn't make the playlist
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    I could be drunk... But this is sounding wayyyyy better... and Binaural is my favorite PJ album
  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    I could be drunk... But this is sounding wayyyyy better... and Binaural is my favorite PJ album

    I agree it's a much better flow!

    Yes the typing at the end sucks - usually a reason I skip that version when setting up playlists but still a great song.

    Now if someone could make a "live version" with that track listing - would be a nice listen.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    smanchac1 wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    I could be drunk... But this is sounding wayyyyy better... and Binaural is my favorite PJ album

    I agree it's a much better flow!

    Yes the typing at the end sucks - usually a reason I skip that version when setting up playlists but still a great song.

    Now if someone could make a "live version" with that track listing - would be a nice listen.

    yeah... this is fucking awesome, man....
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    I don't know dudes... I'm liking "Education" at the end... Get rid of the stupid typing at the end of "Parting Ways" and we are set!

    Overall, as a fan, I can officially say I like this much more than the original!

    However, it is STILL very long. I don't think it would fly with Sony...
  • OceansMagnetOceansMagnet Posts: 1,043
    Could "Education" have possibly been intended as a hidden track? It makes sense to the flow considering that possibility.. Regardless.. This is a fresh take on the record and probably would have had a more universal appeal with this running order. Really digging this..
  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    I don't know dudes... I'm liking "Education" at the end... Get rid of the stupid typing at the end of "Parting Ways" and we are set!

    Overall, as a fan, I can officially say I like this much more than the original!

    However, it is STILL very long. I don't think it would fly with Sony...

    I've heard a few people say its too long? Why is that important? Imagine buying the album and having all the extra songs that day.. The 2000 tour would have had more songs in rotation also. The fact it's long I like, you never hear someone say a show was too long. I remember backspacer getting a lot of complaints for being too short.

    I agree the album would have more universal appeal in this order.

    If you like this try playing riot act - in this order with the b sides mixed in. Here's the track list.

    Can't keep
    Save you
    Undone
    Love Boat Captain
    Crop duster
    Ghost
    Down
    I am mine
    Otherside
    Thumbing my way
    You Are
    Get right
    Green disease
    Help help
    Bush leaguer
    1/2 Full
    Arc
    All or none

    It's 18 songs that way and again makes a much better album with the flow and extra songs. Try it out!
  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    Anyone tried riot act yet?
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    smanchac1 wrote:
    Anyone tried riot act yet?

    I'm making it now
  • javis el errantejavis el errante Buenos Aires Posts: 6,144
    I leave Binaural just as it is, I could take out a bunch of songs and replace them with Sad, Fatal and In the moonlight, but nothing would change much, in fact, they could have appear as bsides of the singles, they should have released another single besides NAIS and Light years...
    ... I am not in the business of being liked anymore ...

  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    I didn't care for the original Riot Act
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,314
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    Am I the only one that thinks the typing at the end was essentially useless?

    it is meant to signify the severe writers block ed had during the creation of the album.
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    NewJPage wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    Am I the only one that thinks the typing at the end was essentially useless?

    it is meant to signify the severe writers block ed had during the creation of the album.

    Meh... makes sense
  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    I didn't care for the original Riot Act

    Probably why it was changed... But it's a different, refreshing take on the albums!
  • The Waiting Trophy ManThe Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    I really dig Binaural this way:

    Of the girl
    Hitchhiker
    In the Moonlight
    Sad
    Education
    Light Years
    Nothing As It Seems
    Thin Air
    Insignificance
    Fatal
    Grievance
    Rival
    Sleight of Hand
    Soon Forget
    Parting Ways

    Fifteen tracks - same as Riot Act, which is harder to mix any differently then it was. Undone, Otherside and Down are 3 of the best songs from the RA sessions, but they don't fit as well as the Binaural 'lost dogs' do.

    I just made a playlist in my iTunes account. I've also replaced 'Glorified g' with 'Hold On' on VS and I like it better; everything else on the album is the same.
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  • primussucksprimussucks Posts: 2,364
    Gods Dice was not on the original track listing.
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  • cdawg23cdawg23 Posts: 14
    Binaural is my 2nd least favorite. Riot Act is my least.

    I do love Nothing as it Seems, Of the Girl, and Rival.

    However, if Breakerfall, God's Dice, and Evacuation were eliminated and Sad, Fatal, In the Moonlight, and Education added, it would move up on the list.

    Breakerfall and Evacuation are my bottom two of the entire catalog of PJ songs. Right next to Help Help and Green Disease. These are just bad songs!!!!

    Riot Act would be a much better album if they cut some of the fat and added Undone and Otherside.
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  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    looking forward to trying this.
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  • jvoorheesjvoorhees Langley, BC Posts: 199
    Could never understand why Sad was left off the album... such a wicked wicked tune!
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