Best North American '06 Boot!?!?!
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These are always tricky because 'best shows' mean different things to different people. Some want crowd noise, some want rare tunes, some want odd setlist orders (unusual openings etc).
I will leave out Boston1 or Albany because i was there.
Boots I find myself listening to the most?
Cinci
San Diego
Grand Rapids
Toronto 2
Downloading Gorge 1 now...1991 - Warwick RI
1994 - Boston Garden 1
2003 - Mansfield 1
2004 - Boston 1 & 2
2006 - Albany, Boston 1, Dublin Ireland
2008 - Mansfield 1 & 2, EV Boston 10 -
PatricSaint III wrote:Until I hear some of the Left Coast shows....I'd pick either Cleveland or Pittsburgh after hearing almost all of the 06 boots thru Cincy.
I'm sure most won't agree but....
I agree, Ed's mood and friendliness in Cleveland was cool. Of all, I'd say Cleveland too!!1/95 DC 7/95 Chicago Tor Tol Cha 96 AlpV I II Chi St L KC 98 BSB I II 99 Phx Vegas Fresno SBern 00 BSB I II 01 (met ed) Vegas Phx Fargo St. Paul Chicago Alpine V Indy Col Virg Phi I II MSG I II (got on DVD!) 03 Calg 05 Clev Vegas LA I II SBar 06 Lon Dus Cop Nij Bel 07 Phi I II DC MSG I II Har BOS I II 08, LA3/4, SD '09, MSG I II '10, Missoula, London ONT, Wrigley, SD, LA1/2, Portland. Wrigley '16 I and II.0 -
Nakedeye66 wrote:Glad to see Cleveland get some love. Best shows of first leg were Cleveland, Camden 2, Detroit, and Albany. Grand Rapids is overrated. the first encore of Grand Rapids (all slow songs) very well may be the highlight of the leg, but the entire show does not live up to that segment, to the shows listed above, or to Chicago 1 ... the most underrated of the leg.
As for the second leg, the short pre-Petty shows slowed the band down a bit. They are all good, but not up to typical PJ full-show standards. the good news was that they came out of that stretch ON FIRE. Las Vegas, San Diego, Santa Barbara, SF3 are superb.
I'm still trying to get multiple listens on the recent shows, but here are my early rankings after hearing all shows except the last 2 (Gorge).
1. San Francisco 3
2. Las Vegas
3. Cleveland
4. Camden 2
5. Detroit
6. San Diego
7. Albany
8. Chicago 1
9. Grand Rapids
10. Santa Barbara
Sometime before Europe starts I'll have commentary on every show to justify these choices.
Again, I must agree, Cleveland was just really really great, get the flac version and you'll see why!1/95 DC 7/95 Chicago Tor Tol Cha 96 AlpV I II Chi St L KC 98 BSB I II 99 Phx Vegas Fresno SBern 00 BSB I II 01 (met ed) Vegas Phx Fargo St. Paul Chicago Alpine V Indy Col Virg Phi I II MSG I II (got on DVD!) 03 Calg 05 Clev Vegas LA I II SBar 06 Lon Dus Cop Nij Bel 07 Phi I II DC MSG I II Har BOS I II 08, LA3/4, SD '09, MSG I II '10, Missoula, London ONT, Wrigley, SD, LA1/2, Portland. Wrigley '16 I and II.0 -
Gorge 1 - trust me..|9.5.93Gorge|2.6.95Moore|5.7.98AROSpace|7.21.98Seattle|7.22.98Seattle|10.21.00PHX|11.5.00Seattle
|11.6.00Seattle|6.6.03Vegas|6.7.03PHX|5.25.06Boston|7.22.06Gorge|7.23.06Gorge|9.21.09Seattle|9.22.09Seattle |10.6.09LA|11.19.13PHX|11.29.13Portland|12.6.13Seattle |10.22.14Denver| 8.8.18 Seattle | 8.10.18 Seattle
EV Solo |7.15.11 Benaroya|7.16.11 Benaroya|4.13.12PHX|10.30.14Redmond|
TOTD 11.11.16 San Fran0 -
Nakedeye66 wrote:GR is overrated, for many of the same reasons State College '03 is a bit overrated. Both shows get props for being so long, and having some unexpected setlist treats. Both of these absolutely are good reasons to highly rate a show. GR I believe is the longest of the tour and it is a VERY GOOD SHOW. I just don't agree it is among the very best. By pure setlist alone, I was drooling to buy this boot, and wonder if many of the people touting it are doing so based simply on the setlist and not listening.
The Grand Rapids FIRST ENCORE maybe IS the best part of the whole tour. But insofar as rating the entire show ... there are a handful of better ones.
Okey-doke.... If not those things that you mentioned (Long show,set-list) and as far as the boots from the tour go..how do you seperate Severed Hand from Albnay from Severed Hand from Cinci? Crowd energy? Band Energy? What makes a show over-rated...Was GR lacking in these areas? No, most people when showing GR love first notice the energy of the group... In fact it was exceptionally high. The crowd on the boot during Matt's drums on "Why Go"...circa 93 with the "Hey Hey Hey Hey".. Was State College? No, not really...Some people like to be in the minority and they let that skew their judgement. There is a reason why State College is highly rated by listeners, because it blows Uniondale away..
I thinks you thinks it is overrated for the simple fact that every one loves these shows and you wish to be different.. Yes Yes?
Also shout out to LAII, Unbelievably fast performance. State of- and Better Man are amazing. San Diego for atmoshphere, and Albany for great sound.0 -
Great input...lots of ideas on what to get first.
For those who us who enjoy a good Ed rant/speech, what boot would you reccomend? Strange question, I know, but I have a lot of the older boots, and find myself listening to some just to enjoy the Ed-isms along the way
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Chicago I and II are awesome, and San Diego is killer. I haven't listened to the Gorge yet.I'll swallow poison, until I grow immune
I will scream my lungs out till it fills this room...
New Orleans 08/14/2000, 04/08/2003
Chicago 05/16/2006, 05/17/2006
San Diego 07/07/20060 -
Best show best boot SAN DIEGO. 2nd place goes to Gorge 1st night!Surfitkj
"Can't you see
The oceans size?
Defining time
And time
Arising
Arms laid upon me
Being so kind
To let me ride"0 -
East Coast - Boston II
West Coast - Gorge I0 -
I got the shows I went to (Vegas; SD; Portland: Gorge 1 & 2).
SD and Gorge 1 are the best of the bunch.
I also got the Grand Rapids boot based on the recommendations, and it lived up to my expectations. Very good show!
I also plan on getting SF3, but have yet to hear it yet.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
I'd have to agree that Grand Rapids is overrated. Don't get me wrong, it was a good show, but there are others that eclipse it. Here's my top 5:
1. Gorge 1
2. SF 2
3. DC
4. San Diego
5. Boston 2
Honorable Mentions: Vegas, Detroit (very underrated show), Cleveland (another underrated one), and any show from the South (oh wait, they never played the South).0 -
I just listened to both boots back-to-back. First Grand Rapids and then Gorge I. I repeated this then in reverse order after waiting two hours to clear my head after a bike ride. My favorite is still Grand Rapids. Try this exact process and see what you think.0
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No politics in SF III (preaching to choir) -- here's transcription of what ed said: http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=207904
I think during evenflow drumsolo the bass drum is a bit hot which might be there throughout but is hard to tell. World Wide Suicide is a bit muddled. Weakest of the show.
Tower is sick, sick, sick with Lee Renaldo (Sonic Youth) feedin it back.
Crazy Boom Mary -- and Ledbetter, ed does a little Dylan impression during first verse.
When European Boots first came out, Rolling Stone did a review of them all, by overall performance, quality, ambiance and then one song - Evenflow. They're top 5 choices were all good and I still listen to Hamburg and Dublin i think? Anyways -- they had a nice system to rate the boots.
I think Camden II makes a nice compliment (set list) to SF III.
(Oooh, Boston II might be better choice with Army, Marker and Parachutes, might be only time those 3 got together....)
I don't think you can hold Santa Barbara and Gorge up to over all comparisons, just special ones that yer gonna want anywho.[sic] happens0 -
warrenfse wrote:I was at all the SF shows, and I don't get the love for that 3rd show. That encore was junk, other then All Along the Watchtower. Nothing but staples. The main set was the best of the 3, but for overall set and crowd reaction, I thought the 1st night was the best.
I agree - I was at SF 1 and 3 (why oh why didn't I go to 2???).
Anyway, the shows were pretty close, in terms of song selection - except for the exceptions - and I thought 1 was way better. Eddie was more "on", the energy was way bigger , except for Crazy Mary. RITFW and AATW were similar in energy in my book. Being there in person for the skimboarding was great, but thats not going to show up on a bootleg.**There is a sickness, a sickness coming over me - like watching freedom, being sucked straight out to sea**0 -
there should have been a stipulation that you can't vote for a show you've attended...obviously there's bias.0
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