Rand Paul Endorses Romney

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edited June 2012 in A Moving Train
It is nice to see Republicans coming together after the hard fought nomination process.



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  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,082
    of course he endorses romney.

    if i were his old man i would disown him...

    but rand is going to do whatever is going to help him politically...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Posts: 13,559
    sooo ... what are the Ron Paul folks here thoughts on this?
  • Posts: 19,305
    "My first choice had always been my father," the younger Paul said of his father, Ron, during a Fox News interview with Sean Hannity. "But now that the nominating process is over, tonight I'm happy to announce that I'm going to be supporting Gov. Mitt Romney."
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • Posts: 3,353
    polaris_x wrote:
    sooo ... what are the Ron Paul folks here thoughts on this?


    Rand is not Ron

    but in the end, Gimmie is right, he is playing politics. Something that Ron was never that good at...

    In his recent speech at the Texas convention he said (I am paraphrasing) Uniting the party is a good thing. But what good is it to unite around the wrong principles, he then references no child left behind, etc...good stuff.
    I know that Rand is more "liberty" minded than most, but he will have to build up some serious credentials to garner the rapid support his old man has...We shall see. I know a lot of local and state level GOP committees have Ron Paul minded folks on the boards and other things so we shall see where that takes the party in the next few years. I was certainly more of the mind to leave the party than change it from the inside, but we shall see if his plan works out in the end.

    I am not sure how supporting Mitt is a good thing for Rand, saying nothing gives Mitt about the same support as he has today. Saying something like this on the day his father was speaking at the Texas convention, was poor timing and probably made people hold even more firm to the idea that Romney will not get their vote. He won't get mine, but that isn't because of Rand...

    All I can really hope for is that Rand is compromising now so he doesn't have to later when he has more power...but we have all seen how a little compromise turns into very little back bone in the end
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • Posts: 10,529
    polaris_x wrote:
    sooo ... what are the Ron Paul folks here thoughts on this?

    Bummed
  • Posts: 25,293
    Screw Rand Paul, he is not his father at all.
  • Posts: 1,825
    This is terrible news, and poorly timed on Rand's part. That said, he is NOT his father-- as far as politicians go, he's the closest we'll get to Ron, but far enough away that I don't care nearly as much to push him as I do Ron. I would vote for him at present, but that may change over time as he may turn out to be just like all of the rest of the gang in Washington. I would be much more disappointed by a Ron Paul endorsement of Romney than Rand. The campaign was very serious about getting the nomination out-right through the first half dozen primaries. When the numbers weren't there, they focused on a strategy of collecting delegates to achieve the nomination at the convention. But they didn't have the numbers yet again. What they have accomplished is changing the party leadership at the state level in many states, and are changing the Republican party from within, and have effectively changed the political dialog in this country. We'll see if it has any real effect later on. I think there are some serious politics being played here, and Rand has bigger aspirations than his promise to serve only 2 terms in the Senate.
  • I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I've talked to a couple of higher ups on Ron's side; Rand might be just playing politics.

    When Obama beats Romney this year then it's anyone's game in 2016. The GOP establishment won't be able to say Rand was against the nominee in 2012. Rand will beat Hillary in 2016 because the country will finally be sick of the debt that is piling up.
  • Posts: 12,225
    Question: Ron Paul has been a Congresman since 1997... does that make him a 'Career Politician'?
    If Term Limits were in place, Paul would have been ousted in 2009.
    ...
    That I why I don't like Term Limits. I believe we ALREADY HAVE Term Lmits... it's called 'The Ballot Booth'.
    The politicians are not the problem regarding 'Career Politicians'... WE, the VOTERS, are the problem.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Posts: 3,327
    unsung wrote:
    I've talked to a couple of higher ups on Ron's side; Rand might be just playing politics.

    When Obama beats Romney this year then it's anyone's game in 2016. The GOP establishment won't be able to say Rand was against the nominee in 2012. Rand will beat Hillary in 2016 because the country will finally be sick of the debt that is piling up.

    To be honest I don't see Rand going against Hillary in 2016. I don't think Rand will be close to a nomination and there is no way Hillary will be either.
  • Posts: 3,353
    Cosmo wrote:
    Question: Ron Paul has been a Congresman since 1997... does that make him a 'Career Politician'?
    If Term Limits were in place, Paul would have been ousted in 2009.
    ...
    That I why I don't like Term Limits. I believe we ALREADY HAVE Term Lmits... it's called 'The Ballot Booth'.
    The politicians are not the problem regarding 'Career Politicians'... WE, the VOTERS, are the problem.


    Elections are not term limits. they have a distinct advantage for the incumbent. While Americans are certainly the part of the problem mostly because they don't pay attention or seem to care about "selling out", it is a much larger problem to have people grow fat and complacent while on the tax payers free ride mainly because of their incumbency. Politics isn't supposed to be a career, it is supposed to be a temporary position.
    He is an example of someone who is a career politician in that he has been in office for many years. But all in all, I would rather sacrifice a few Ron Pauls and Kucinichs(?) in order to weed out the Strom Thurmonds and Byrds and all too many others. it is sad when a legislator gets re-elected because he supports a business leader or union through their votes who then in turn gets money for a re-election bid that is successful because of name recognition and money.
    It won't solve all the problems, but it is a start.
    by the way, he has supported term limits for 20+ years or more and introduced the first bill in the modern age many years ago calling for them, and has supported every bill that has come along since if I am remembering correctly...
    I don't know what this has to do with the tea in china, but it is my two cents anyway.
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • Posts: 12,225
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    show previous quotes


    Elections are not term limits. they have a distinct advantage for the incumbent. While Americans are certainly the part of the problem mostly because they don't pay attention or seem to care about "selling out", it is a much larger problem to have people grow fat and complacent while on the tax payers free ride mainly because of their incumbency. Politics isn't supposed to be a career, it is supposed to be a temporary position.
    He is an example of someone who is a career politician in that he has been in office for many years. But all in all, I would rather sacrifice a few Ron Pauls and Kucinichs(?) in order to weed out the Strom Thurmonds and Byrds and all too many others. it is sad when a legislator gets re-elected because he supports a business leader or union through their votes who then in turn gets money for a re-election bid that is successful because of name recognition and money.
    It won't solve all the problems, but it is a start.
    by the way, he has supported term limits for 20+ years or more and introduced the first bill in the modern age many years ago calling for them, and has supported every bill that has come along since if I am remembering correctly...
    I don't know what this has to do with the tea in china, but it is my two cents anyway.
    ...
    I'm just sayin'... there's a reason WHY Strom Thurman and Ted Kennedy were in office for a fucking century... the Americans that voted them in based upon name recognition... or because they were doing such a great job in office.
    Fix the voter... fix the problem.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Posts: 13,559
    Cosmo wrote:
    ..
    I'm just sayin'... there's a reason WHY Strom Thurman and Ted Kennedy were in office for a fucking century... the Americans that voted them in based upon name recognition... or because they were doing such a great job in office.
    Fix the voter... fix the problem.

    who's gonna fix the voter!? ... the majority of politicians who would most be affected by an informed public? ... doubt it ...
  • Posts: 21,855
    In the defense of the voters ...
    do most think it even makes a difference which party or who gets in anymore?

    Can someone please dream up a new government, this one is not working.

    And of course Rand Paul endorses his party's candidate, of course he is playing politics
    and of course this is exactly what his father wants. He wants for him what he himself never had,
    like all good parents do. President Rand Paul, of course.
  • Posts: 12,225
    polaris_x wrote:
    show previous quotes

    who's gonna fix the voter!? ... the majority of politicians who would most be affected by an informed public? ... doubt it ...
    ...
    The VOTERS need to fix themselves.
    Here's a start...
    If you are voting for someone, just because you've heard of his name before... DON'T FUCKING VOTE.
    If you are voting for someone, just because of the 'D' or 'R' next to his name... DON'T FUCKING VOTE.
    If you are voting for someone, just because someone on television or radio or your church told you to vote for them... DON'T FUCKING VOTE.
    The Constitution forces our representatives to report their voting records. Look up what your representative is doing to you, instead of for you.
    If you are too lazy to inform yourself... DON'T FUCKING VOTE.
    It's not a game... it's not a popularity contest... it is YOUR GOVERNMENT that is deciding on what is best for you. It is tough to criticise assholes in Washington... when WE are the fucking IDIOTS who HIRE THEM!!!
    Vote SMART. Or don't vote.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Posts: 21,855
    Cosmo wrote:
    show previous quotes
    ...
    The VOTERS need to fix themselves.
    Here's a start...
    If you are voting for someone, just because you've heard of his name before... DON'T FUCKING VOTE.
    If you are voting for someone, just because of the 'D' or 'R' next to his name... DON'T FUCKING VOTE.
    If you are voting for someone, just because someone on television or radio or your church told you to vote for them... DON'T FUCKING VOTE.
    The Constitution forces our representatives to report their voting records. Look up what your representative is doing to you, instead of for you.
    If you are too lazy to inform yourself... DON'T FUCKING VOTE.
    It's not a game... it's not a popularity contest... it is YOUR GOVERNMENT that is deciding on what is best for you. It is tough to criticise assholes in Washington... when WE are the fucking IDIOTS who HIRE THEM!!!
    Vote SMART. Or don't vote.

    One way or another people can, will and should use their vote. To tell them not to,
    well what can I say to that ... it's massively superior.

    Even if someone is not up to speed on all that goes on in Washington
    doesn't mean they unable to choose their representatives and their President.
    It is their right, whether informed to the point you think they should be, or not.

    And it is popularity when it comes to the office of the President.
    Why they are chosen to be a candidate for the post, to draw in crowds for their
    party, be charismatic and very fine speech givers...
    to rally the country of both parties and bring us together in times of need.
  • Posts: 13,559
    Cosmo wrote:
    ..
    The VOTERS need to fix themselves.
    Here's a start...
    If you are voting for someone, just because you've heard of his name before... DON'T FUCKING VOTE.
    If you are voting for someone, just because of the 'D' or 'R' next to his name... DON'T FUCKING VOTE.
    If you are voting for someone, just because someone on television or radio or your church told you to vote for them... DON'T FUCKING VOTE.
    The Constitution forces our representatives to report their voting records. Look up what your representative is doing to you, instead of for you.
    If you are too lazy to inform yourself... DON'T FUCKING VOTE.
    It's not a game... it's not a popularity contest... it is YOUR GOVERNMENT that is deciding on what is best for you. It is tough to criticise assholes in Washington... when WE are the fucking IDIOTS who HIRE THEM!!!
    Vote SMART. Or don't vote.

    this is a populace that watches a show called jersey shore and continue to eat bad processed food like it's going out of style ... how can you possibly give people any credit in being able to think critically!? ...
  • Posts: 21,855
    Now we got two does that make it a complex? ;)

    Voting is a crap shoot ...
    the voter is picking between crap that smells the same. Any apathy that is being found
    is multiplying at a high rate of speed and with it is coming the rightful disillusionment
    that goes with being screwed.

    Let people bury themselves in Jersey Shore, they can relate,
    get lost in other's lives, it's not much different than a band fan club really
    and certainly no different than those who talk big but do small, no difference at all.
  • Posts: 12,225
    polaris_x wrote:
    show previous quotes
    ...
    This is WHY we get the crappy government we deserve. Because of mindless voting. This is the kind of stuff that will get one of the Kardashians into office.
    We get the Government WE DESERVE... because people cannot differentiate voting for 'American Idol' and voting for American Representatives. They think its a popularity contest... it is not. It is government, not entertainment.
    We shouldn't complain... we get exactly what we deserve.
    ...
    Politicians wet dream? An uninformed voting public that they can easily charm with their bullshit.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Posts: 21,855
    Oh the American people can distinguish between voting for AI
    and voting for their representatives...
    one makes them happy, relieves stress instead of causing more,
    makes them laugh and actually gives a bit of hope for the future.
    Above all else brings some success and dreams fulfilled to somebody.

    It seems people like to blame our governments antics on the voters
    when it comes down to the fact everyone has a right to vote...
    well if they are an American that is. The rest just watch I guess.

    But if you don't have much to pick from, informed or otherwise,
    the outcome remains the same ...

    in my opinion the pool of politicians is tainted with an agenda not our own.

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