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Jack Irons Live With PJ

CrookedTomCrookedTom Posts: 252
edited May 2012 in The Porch
I have listened to a few PJ Boots from 95-96 when Jack was drumming - Granted, not that many as I like my boots to have as good as possible sound quality. So Melbourne (95) and Berlin (96) I have listened to.

I have got to say - Matt Cameron is twice the drummer - Certainly in a concert! Irons struggles to keep the rhythm at times and doesn't drive the songs on like Cameron does.

This is not a slate on Jack - My favourite PJ album is No Code, and I love Yield too. Infact I think Cameron sounds worse than Jack on the albums he's drummed on in many ways...But that could be that I like the songs less and production issues

What are others opinions?
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  • southernmanfansouthernmanfan Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 1,025
    As a drummer I like both. Jack is skillful and technical, Matt solid and consistent.

    Matt has stood the test of time and could very well be the reason the band are still together... ;)
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,099
    Since Jack will be playing with the Wallflowers at Deluna, I wonder if he will set in on a song or two with PJ. I doubt it, but it would be pretty cool
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  • TT8270TT8270 Posts: 429
    Jack over Matt any time. :thumbup:
    Love that lazy groove. :think:
    Matt's way too technical for Pearl Jam. :nono:
    But is perfect for Soundgarden for sure. :clap:
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  • The AkkusThe Akkus Posts: 1,095
    I like Matt better live, but No Code and Yield are my 2 favorite albums of all time...
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  • Peasant TentsPeasant Tents UK Posts: 863
    Jack for me...
  • Alive_and_EvolvingAlive_and_Evolving Posts: 327
    I think over time Matt has kinda picked up his own groove on a lot of the songs and drums them with authority. I noticed the other day Matt puts a lot of his own fills on songs pre-binaural. As for jack irons, I love what he does on no code, however I always thought his drumming on yield wasn't nearly as interesting. This drummer debate will always be around as long as pearl jam is around but it's all a matter of taste. I like all the drummers they've had but I certainly like Matt a lot. I hope to see a pearl jam album that embraces his understanding of unique time signatures.
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  • nthngsms2flynthngsms2fly Posts: 121
    i love Jack; i have all his solo stuff. :geek:

    i do like both Jack and Matt with PJ. I think Matt has been great but live on songs like 'in my tree' or 'given to fly' Jack's drumming was better to me than Matt's drumming. Those songs just fit so well with Jack's style. I think Jack's anxiety disorder contributed to his inconsistency during the Yield tour but when I saw PJ that tour I thought he was just fantastic.

    I think Matt has really fit in well with the band and I have absolutely no complaints; he's taken those no code and yield songs and put his own spin on them and he's amazing on the stuff recorded since.
  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    TT8270 wrote:
    Jack over Matt any time. :thumbup:
    Love that lazy groove. :think:
    Matt's way too technical for Pearl Jam. :nono:
    But is perfect for Soundgarden for sure. :clap:

    Lazy groove......very well put.

    Matt is soooooo much better in Soundgarden it's not even funny.

    Not sure how Jack would adjust to the current tempo of PJ? Maybe he would force them to slow down.
  • uninnocent-uninnocent- Posts: 5,959
    UpSideDown wrote:
    TT8270 wrote:
    Jack over Matt any time. :thumbup:
    Love that lazy groove. :think:
    Matt's way too technical for Pearl Jam. :nono:
    But is perfect for Soundgarden for sure. :clap:

    Lazy groove......very well put.

    Matt is soooooo much better in Soundgarden it's not even funny.

    Not sure how Jack would adjust to the current tempo of PJ? Maybe he would force them to slow down.

    I love Pearl Jam regardless of the drummer situation, but I have to agree with this. I was watching SVT the other day and I just couldn't help but think about how much I'd have loved to have seen Jack with PJ live. I've seen Matt with SG twice and he's a different kind of beast with that band.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,150
    I think they're both great drummers. To my ears, Matt has the slight edge in fluidity and technical skills and Jack has a slight edge in his creative style- including his unique use of a garbage can lid in his drum kit! Both are great!

    In general, I think Pearl Jam has been very fortunate to have had excellent drummers throughout they're career.
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