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perfectlefts14 wrote:

norm wrote:

cutz wrote:

SVRDhand13 wrote:

I have too much respect for the game to accept cheaters. This can go on forever so I'll save my breath (actually my fingers).

So, do you accept the cheaters that didn't get caught? or is it NOT chetaing IF you don't get caught?>

Its cheating whether you were caught or not. Some guys were just so stupid and juiced until their bodies doubled in size .

JonnyPistachio wrote:

SVRDhand13 wrote:

cutz wrote:

So, do you accept the cheaters that didn't get caught? or is it NOT chetaing IF you don't get caught?>

Its cheating whether you were caught or not. Some guys were just so stupid and juiced until their bodies doubled in size .

Yeah, the overnight incredible hulk crowd was pretty funny. :fp:


SImply put, I'm not goingt o use the old cliche "it ruined the game for me," but I certainly lost a bit of interest in baseball once I heard all the roid controversy.

And to say that there's no proof that it helps you hit a baseball, might be true, but its just silly. How does a physical enhancement not help you? Roids make you bigger and faster -- easier to cheat.

a lot of hitting a baseball has to do with vision and flexibility, not how strong you are

SVRDhand13 wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

a lot of hitting a baseball has to do with vision and flexibility, not how strong you are

We are talking about HRs. No one is saying these cheaters didn't have incredible talent to begin with.

it's all relative. getting bigger decreases your flexibility, which can actually retard your ability to hit a baseball

The Fixer wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

SVRDhand13 wrote:

Its cheating whether you were caught or not. Some guys were just so stupid and juiced until their bodies doubled in size .

Yeah, the overnight incredible hulk crowd was pretty funny. :fp:


SImply put, I'm not goingt o use the old cliche "it ruined the game for me," but I certainly lost a bit of interest in baseball once I heard all the roid controversy.

And to say that there's no proof that it helps you hit a baseball, might be true, but its just silly. How does a physical enhancement not help you? Roids make you bigger and faster -- easier to cheat.

a lot of hitting a baseball has to do with vision and flexibility, not how strong you are

Of course, but its a mix of both. But with strength, often comes quickness...You cant say that adding quickness to your swing will usually hurt someone.

Also, regarding the idea that pitchers might have been on roids too -- there have been studies that suggest that pitchers will/might have come close to hitting their limits with maximum pitch velocity (approx.100-105mph)because the amount of torque needed to throw in excess of the those speeds is greater than the amount of force the ulnar collateral ligament (the elbow ligament) can withstand before giving out.

So, there's another good baseball discussion -- Tommy John surgery is becoming quite common.

dude

http://deadspin.com/5911001/rays-infiel ... ch-tonight

norm wrote:

dude

http://deadspin.com/5911001/rays-infiel ... ch-tonight

I just saw the replay of this, he got drilled, it sounded like it hit wood. He immediately had a huge welt and bruise. Glad he's okay.

81 wrote:

Interesting listen on the dodgers broadcast. First time i think i have ever had it.

Nice, you get to hear Vin Scully. Must be watching the MLB channel.