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Monster Rain · May 2012

JK_Livin wrote:

The arbitrator that overturned Brauns suspension has been fired. Hmmmmmmmm. :nono:

Oh, I'm sure it's completely unrelated to the Braun ruling and the fact that MLB felt the need to overturn Eliezer Alfonso's 100-game ban for the same reason. If you believe that, then Bud Selig has some wonderful oceanfront property he'd like to sell you in Milwaukee.

norm · May 2012

whoa

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... 4158.story

81 · May 2012

Monster Rain wrote:

I don't know if anyone else saw this, but John Axford's wife went into labor during the Brewer's 13-inning win the other night. He blew the save in the game, which ended his streak of 49 consecutive saves. Since he couldn't stick around to talk to reporters, he was kind enough to leave a note:

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/ ... uch-rules/

I tried to insert the image of the note but it was too big and I couldn't figure out how to make it smaller.

that's awesome

81 · May 2012

imalive wrote:

Flagg wrote:

Josh Hamilton. Holy Crap.

The last 7 days:

9 HRs and 18 RBIs.

josh is a stud, no doubt. cj wilson thinks josh can break bonds' record.....perhaps, but...

josh has walked 13 times in 31 games; 5 times intentionally

when barry hit 73, he was walked 177 times

in '02, he hit 46 HR, batted .370 and walked 198 times; 68 intentionally

it reached ridiculous proportions in '04....232 walks, 120 intentional, 45 HR, .362 BA

in poo-holes' entire career, his high for intentional walks was 44. in barry's FINAL year, he got 43 :roll:

my point is, no one has ever been treated like barry...he rarely saw a pitch and he still put up ridiculous numbers. yes, he was on the juice but he was an incredible talent and the HOF is a joke without him.

without the "bonds treatment," josh just might do it. the rangers' lineup makes it hard to put anyone on base without paying.

insane numbers

SVRDhand13 · May 2012

imalive wrote:

yes, he was on the juice but he was an incredible talent and the HOF is a joke without him.

HOF would be an even bigger joke with him in it. He ruined Hank Aaron's all time HR mark and helped Sosa and McGwire ruin Maris' single season mark. Bonds may have been the best of all time without roids, but that's a big if. He decided to cheat and lie and now they're all paying for it. And I love that his record breaking ball has an asterisk on it.

Wobbie · May 2012

SVRDhand13 wrote:

imalive wrote:

yes, he was on the juice but he was an incredible talent and the HOF is a joke without him.

HOF would be an even bigger joke with him in it. He ruined Hank Aaron's all time HR mark and helped Sosa and McGwire ruin Maris' single season mark. Bonds may have been the best of all time without roids, but that's a big if. He decided to cheat and lie and now they're all paying for it. And I love that his record breaking ball has an asterisk on it.

there's not much gray area with barry....you either loved him (me) or hate his cheating ass (you). I get it. But I will take exception to your assertion that he "helped Sosa and McGwire ruin Maris' single season mark." In actuality, those guys started using first and Barry followed out of jealousy and a "wait a minute, I'm better than them" attitude.

for a multitude of reasons, it's a waste of time to compare numbers from different eras. every era had factors to help and hurt numbers. carry on

Cliffy6745 · May 2012

http://deadspin.com/5910414/this-photo- ... looks-like

Newch91 · May 2012

Cliffy6745 wrote:

http://deadspin.com/5910414/this-photo-of-troy-tulowitzki-and-the-rockies-trainer-is-not-what-it-looks-like

SVRDhand13 · May 2012

imalive wrote:

SVRDhand13 wrote:

imalive wrote:

yes, he was on the juice but he was an incredible talent and the HOF is a joke without him.

HOF would be an even bigger joke with him in it. He ruined Hank Aaron's all time HR mark and helped Sosa and McGwire ruin Maris' single season mark. Bonds may have been the best of all time without roids, but that's a big if. He decided to cheat and lie and now they're all paying for it. And I love that his record breaking ball has an asterisk on it.

there's not much gray area with barry....you either loved him (me) or hate his cheating ass (you). I get it. But I will take exception to your assertion that he "helped Sosa and McGwire ruin Maris' single season mark." In actuality, those guys started using first and Barry followed out of jealousy and a "wait a minute, I'm better than them" attitude.

for a multitude of reasons, it's a waste of time to compare numbers from different eras. every era had factors to help and hurt numbers. carry on

Bonds is above Maris. Bonds took steroids. Bonds is one of the people who ruined 61.

Cliffy6745 · May 2012

Please..don't blame the players for taking steroids, blame baseball for letting hit happen. Players in every generation of baseball history have looked for an advantage; spit balls, scuffing the ball, greenies, steroids, etc. Let them all in.

Don't give me the character clause either because players back in the day were complete scumbags.

LloydXmas · May 2012

Anyone see the E60 on oil can Boyd. Wowsers. That 86 world series was fucked up.

Wobbie · May 2012

SVRDhand13 wrote:

Bonds is above Maris. Bonds took steroids. Bonds is one of the people who ruined 61.

I could give you anecdotal evidence that maris may have taken steroids. they were around in the late 1950s :shock:

SVRDhand13 · May 2012

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Please..don't blame the players for taking steroids, blame baseball for letting hit happen. Players in every generation of baseball history have looked for an advantage; spit balls, scuffing the ball, greenies, steroids, etc. Let them all in.

Don't give me the character clause either because players back in the day were complete scumbags.

How about we blame both the commissioner and the players. Selig should have been fired along with banning the players and not recognizing their records.

SVRDhand13 · May 2012

imalive wrote:

SVRDhand13 wrote:

Bonds is above Maris. Bonds took steroids. Bonds is one of the people who ruined 61.

I could give you anecdotal evidence that maris may have taken steroids. they were around in the late 1950s :shock:

Bonds took riods, theres no denying it. I am not saying Maris was always clean.

The sad part is that A-Roid will break Bond's all time mark.

Newch91 · May 2012

LloydXmas wrote:

Anyone see the E60 on oil can Boyd. Wowsers. That 86 world series was fucked up.

That is an awesome name: Oil Can Boyd.

Cliffy6745 · May 2012

SVRDhand13 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Please..don't blame the players for taking steroids, blame baseball for letting hit happen. Players in every generation of baseball history have looked for an advantage; spit balls, scuffing the ball, greenies, steroids, etc. Let them all in.

Don't give me the character clause either because players back in the day were complete scumbags.

How about we blame both the commissioner and the players. Selig should have been fired along with banning the players and not recognizing their records.

Dude, Hank Aaron took greenies. I don't get the outrage over steroids.

Ruth didn't play against black players
Aaron took greenies, he definitely would have missed games if it weren't for them
And Bonds had roids.

Everyone had their advantage. You could argue that steroids had a bigger impact but the point is, everyone had some sort of advantage over pervious periods.

Baseball let it happen and quite honestly, every player in baseball should have been taking them.

Wobbie · May 2012

SVRDhand13 wrote:

The sad part is that A-Roid will break Bond's all time mark.

I'm not so sure....he still needs 129 more....but I guess since he can DH (another "record skewer") and since the yanks are stuck with him until 2040

....he will :x

Wobbie · May 2012

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Dude, Hank Aaron took greenies. I don't get the outrage over steroids.

Ruth didn't play against black players
Aaron took greenies, he definitely would have missed games if it weren't for them
And Bonds had roids.

Everyone had their advantage. You could argue that steroids had a bigger impact but the point is, everyone had some sort of advantage over pervious periods.

not to mention, bonds played in two very tough HR parks (candlestick and AT&T) while hank played a bunch at a place they called "the launching pad."

JT Snow said Bonds would have hit 80 in any other ballpark :shock:

Newch91 · May 2012

imalive wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Dude, Hank Aaron took greenies. I don't get the outrage over steroids.

Ruth didn't play against black players
Aaron took greenies, he definitely would have missed games if it weren't for them
And Bonds had roids.

Everyone had their advantage. You could argue that steroids had a bigger impact but the point is, everyone had some sort of advantage over pervious periods.

not to mention, bonds played in two very tough HR parks (candlestick and AT&T) while hank played a bunch at a place they called "the launching pad."

JT Snow said Bonds would have hit 80 in any other ballpark :shock:

I can't remember if he hit one in Yankee Stadium. I remember the Yankees intentionally walked him, which made me mad because I wanted to see Bonds hit one in Yankee Stadium.

Wobbie · May 2012

Newch91 wrote:

I can't remember if he hit one in Yankee Stadium. I remember the Yankees intentionally walked him, which made me mad because I wanted to see Bonds hit one in Yankee Stadium.

June 2002

At the team meeting before the Giants series, manager Joe Torre told Lilly not to allow Bonds to dominate the game, which was like telling a politician not to dominate the discussion.

David Bell led off the Giants' first inning with a walk. Rich Aurilia followed with a ground-ball single to left field, moving Bell to second. Barry was the batter.

Lilly delivered the first pitch, which was a high fastball. Barry swung and missed. The crowd, in unison, screamed with delight.

Some older fans had an image of Mickey Mantle in their minds. Even older fans could see Babe Ruth.

Jorge Posada fired the ball back to Lilly, who toed the rubber, checked the runners, and delivered a pitch that was low and away to even the count at 1-1.

Bell took a short lead off second. Aurilia inched towards second base. Lilly fired, and Barry blasted.

The fastball that, much to Lilly's chagrin, stayed too far inside landed about halfway up the third deck along the right field foul line. The ball was still rising when it crashed into the seats.

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