World Wide Suicide

It's a shame to awake in a world of pain.

I like that line. Says a lot.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

pandora wrote:

You dismiss the life of a young man making a choice, Pat Tillman ...
that is sad and lacks compassion for him and his family's loss.
Yet you speak to change the world :? start here then.

By celebrating his life, his choice you do not condone war, you only understand him

Your original post speaks of the song, it's meaning to you.
I state mine to me and feel I understand Ed's message and reason for bringing Pat to us.

He was a hero ... I celebrate that and remember Pat's giving soul.

You can find other messages if you choose. But when you speak of love
please include all

this song is NOT celebrating anything. if it were it would have been a happy little song about a happy little soldier who willfully died doing what he thought was right. have you read the book on tillman? he was not happy about being over there. he did not agree with the war. he was killed there and his death was used as a rallying point and recruiting tool. we were told he died valliantly fighting the taliban, when in reality he was killed by his own unit...

you can celebrate his life and try to find that meaning in this song, but it is not there. it is an angry song, like all of pearl jam's songs about war.

yes I do very much so and yes I am up to speed on the story of this brave man
of course I too feel the song is bittersweet ...
angry and proud, all that goes with the death of him and the tragic circumstances
and betrayal.
I have been a fan 20+ years, I recognize the anger, the injustice in the song
for this man and many others.

It is beautifully written so and as someone mentioned the tempo upbeat and challenging...
it is one of the finer masterpieces Pearl Jam has created and has
so much depth and meaning layers and complexity ...
it seems maybe it hasn't gotten enough credit.

it has brought much light for me personally, not only as a personal story written
but a much broader understanding of war ...
who doesn't feel this song? it is amazing!

Kat wrote:

1. Lyric interpretations belong in the forum for that, Words and Music...Communication.

2. Everyone is entitled to interpret a song as they choose and everyone is correct...it's a very personal thing and the author often leaves the lyrics open to multiple interpretations.

3. No one is in Ed's head and so making definitive statements about the meaning or meanings behind his lyrics would be an exercise in imagining, right?

This thread is being moved and a discussion of the lyrics should be in a friendly way...we're all Pearl Jam fans, right?

Thank you.

I got from the OP, that the thread was meant to not interpret the song, but to address a topic very much meant for a Moving Train. :?

pandora wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

brianlux wrote:

Great song, huh? I think so.

But is it? I mean... world-wide suicide? Is it? Please, some, convince me other wise. Can we just stop being idiots for awhile and do something constructive and useful? Maybe just start by being kind to each other and the world around us? If not, then why are we here?

Funny, I heard this song on the radio yesterday and I thought that EV probably isn't proud of it any more. Just since he's not the activist he once used to be, and not as angry.

I was thinking the opposite actually that perhaps Ed remains very proud
as he really brought awareness that remains.
The song means different things to different people how could he not be proud of that?

What Brian was trying to get across was something very different from what *you* interpret. So you had to go run to Kat because of it?