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  • Monster Rain
    Monster Rain Posts: 1,415
    I have to correct myself from my Chapman post. Apparently, Bray isn't ready because he had an injury earlier in camp and Baker's comment wasn't because he didn't think Bray was good enough to fill the role. Still, I hate to see young arms get yanked back and forth like this. Having seen what happened with Chamberlain in NY it makes me wary when I see a starter turned into a reliever temporarily, told to get ready to be a starter the next season, and then tossed back into the bullpen at the last minute--and then they still expect to turn him into a starter at some point (not sure if it's later this year or next year). If he's not starting until next year then the team will have used half his contract having him pitch out of the bullpen and will only get 3 years of him as a starter for their $30 milion investment.
  • The Fixer
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    Monster Rain wrote:
    I have to correct myself from my Chapman post. Apparently, Bray isn't ready because he had an injury earlier in camp and Baker's comment wasn't because he didn't think Bray was good enough to fill the role. Still, I hate to see young arms get yanked back and forth like this. Having seen what happened with Chamberlain in NY it makes me wary when I see a starter turned into a reliever temporarily, told to get ready to be a starter the next season, and then tossed back into the bullpen at the last minute--and then they still expect to turn him into a starter at some point (not sure if it's later this year or next year). If he's not starting until next year then the team will have used half his contract having him pitch out of the bullpen and will only get 3 years of him as a starter for their $30 milion investment.

    If reds are going to be in playoffs as expected, they may be maximizing their return on chapman for this year by having him in the pen. If he was a starter he'd probably be on an innings cap (though maybe not with dusty 'the pitcher killer' baker running things), which could eliminate him from pitching in the postseason. Out of the pen they can still use him 1-2 innings at a time and he could really be a weapon out of the pen come playoff time.

    the bigger question is why are the reds keeping bronson arroyo if they are hoping to make the playoffs?

    I like this reds team a lot. I think they are going to represent the NL in the WS this year
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    God damn, reds. One good extension today and one god awful one.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Votto basically has a 12 year and $251 million contract. Unreal.
  • Stardog3..
    Stardog3.. Posts: 1,527
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Votto basically has a 12 year and $251 million contract. Unreal.

    Roughly 20.92 a season. MILLION. a season.

    crazy.
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Votto basically has a 12 year and $251 million contract. Unreal.


    I'm really not sure the Reds should be throwing around this kind of money. Hope it works out for them.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,302
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Votto basically has a 12 year and $251 million contract. Unreal.
    Granted I'm a casual baseball fan, but I had never heard of Votto before. Make of that what you will.
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  • Monster Rain
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    DS1119 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Votto basically has a 12 year and $251 million contract. Unreal.


    I'm really not sure the Reds should be throwing around this kind of money. Hope it works out for them.

    It seems like they're hoping that having a star like Votto signed long-term will help them get a better TV deal when their current deal runs out. If they really think he's going to continue to stay healthy and produce at an MVP-type level then they ay have been smart to lock him up now instead of waiting to see what he'd get on the open market in a couple years. Barring an injury or sudden drop in performance, his price was likely going to wind up even higher after the 2013 season. The length of the deal is probably a couple of years longer than they wanted to go, but the Pujols and Fielder deals set the market for All-Star 1B.
  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Jason P wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Votto basically has a 12 year and $251 million contract. Unreal.
    Granted I'm a casual baseball fan, but I had never heard of Votto before. Make of that what you will.
    Votto is legit (former/almost MVP?), but hahahahahahahahahaha. I'm glad the Reds learned their lesson with Griffey Jr. :lol: . There's a reason why the Rays and Brewers have been able to be competitive the past 5-8 years, and it has something to do with not locking players up to huge contracts well after they will be useful. Sure it means some less competitive years here and there, but then you repeat. Locking up big name guys for a long time are things that Yankees do (and see what ARod, Tex, Jetes are gonna give them for the next 5-7 years).
  • Wobbie
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    Jason P wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Votto basically has a 12 year and $251 million contract. Unreal.
    Granted I'm a casual baseball fan, but I had never heard of Votto before. Make of that what you will.

    I make of that that you're a VERY casual fan :lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • JonnyPistachio
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    Didnt want to start a new thread, but this is odd news in the baseball world:
    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/man- ... rly-040412
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,853
    I have been playing the shit out of Strat-O-Matic baseball lately.

    Excited for the Indians season. I really think there is a chance they take the Central. I am back in Buffalo so I am in their viewing area now. Sports Time Ohio FTW!!!
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,435
    MayDay10 wrote:
    I have been playing the shit out of Strat-O-Matic baseball lately.

    Excited for the Indians season. I really think there is a chance they take the Central. I am back in Buffalo so I am in their viewing area now. Sports Time Ohio FTW!!!


    I love Strat. I actually worked there the last two winters.

    Not that I know anything, but here are my predictions for this year

    AL East: Yankees, Rays, Blue Jays, Red Sox Orioles.
    AL Central: Tigers, Indians, White Sox Royals, Twins.
    AL West: Angels, Rangers, Mariners, Athletics.
    NL East: Phillies, Marlins, Braves, Nationals, Mets.
    NL Central: Cardinals, Brewers, Reds, Pirates, Cubs, Astros.
    NL West: Giants, Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Rockies, Padres.
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    Not that I know anything, but here are my predictions for this year

    AL East: Yankees, Rays, Blue Jays, Red Sox Orioles.
    AL Central: Tigers, Indians, White Sox Royals, Twins.
    AL West: Angels, Rangers, Mariners, Athletics.
    NL East: Phillies, Marlins, Braves, Nationals, Mets.
    NL Central: Cardinals, Brewers, Reds, Pirates, Cubs, Astros.
    NL West: Giants, Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Rockies, Padres.


    Those actually look pretty good.
  • Bronx Bombers
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    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-l ... 35728.html

    Looks like the Orioles are in midseason form they lost to a community college last night
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,853
    edited April 2012
    Ill give my predictions:
    This season is very exciting.

    AL East
    Yankees
    Red Sox (W)
    Tampa Bay
    Toronto
    Baltimore

    AL Central
    Kansas City
    Detroit
    Cleveland
    Minnesota
    White Sox

    AL West
    Texas
    Seattle (W2)
    Oakland
    Angels (I have a feeling wheels come off)

    NL East
    Phillies
    Nationals
    Braves
    Mets
    Marlins

    NL Central
    Reds
    Cardinals (W2)
    Pirates
    Cubs
    Brewers
    Astros

    NL West
    Giants
    Diamondbacks (WC)
    Rockies
    Dodgers
    Padres

    Red Sox over Seattle

    Yankees Beat KC
    Red Sox Beat Texas

    Red Sox beat Yankees

    Diamond Backs beat Cardinals

    Giants beat Reds
    Phillies beat Diamond Backs

    Phillies beat Giants

    Phillies beat Red Sox
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  • The Fixer
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    Phils
    Reds
    Dbags
    Braves
    Giants

    Yanks
    Tigers
    Rangers
    Angels
    Rays

    Rangers over Reds in the WS
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    The Fixer wrote:
    Phils
    Reds
    Dbags
    Braves
    Giants

    Yanks
    Tigers
    Rangers
    Angels
    Rays

    Rangers over Reds in the WS

    I agree with your AL, but I'm taking the Angels over the Rangers this year. That staff is legit and I think Darvish will be really good but I hate the rest of their staff. I'm going to say the Marlins are going to suprise this year and make the playoffs, but I am sure I'll end up being wrong on that.

    I'm a toss up between the Angels and Yankees for the AL but going to take the Yankees and say they win it all. Just being a homer on that one.

    Also, this probably won't happen but I think Boston's pitching will implode and Bobby V doesn't make it through the season. Hoping for this at least.
  • kdizzle.delio
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    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/baltimore-orioles-drop-exhibition-game-community-college-164735728.html

    Looks like the Orioles are in midseason form they lost to a community college last night

    i read that too funny thing is they played most of their regulars and even had one of their projected starters pitch, granted they only lost 2-1 but funny nonetheless.
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  • The Fixer
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    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Phils
    Reds
    Dbags
    Braves
    Giants

    Yanks
    Tigers
    Rangers
    Angels
    Rays

    Rangers over Reds in the WS

    I agree with your AL, but I'm taking the Angels over the Rangers this year. That staff is legit and I think Darvish will be really good but I hate the rest of their staff. I'm going to say the Marlins are going to suprise this year and make the playoffs, but I am sure I'll end up being wrong on that.

    I'm a toss up between the Angels and Yankees for the AL but going to take the Yankees and say they win it all. Just being a homer on that one.

    Also, this probably won't happen but I think Boston's pitching will implode and Bobby V doesn't make it through the season. Hoping for this at least.

    I hear you on the rangers rotation, but I feel the same way about the angel lineup. Other than kendrick and pujols I think their lineup stinks (morales can hit but he's a question mark coming off that nasty injury). That should be a great race and I think both are playoff teams.

    Josh Johnson, Reyes, Hanley, logan morrison, stanton...none of them can stay healthy. Marlins have a ton of talent, but I don't see them being healthy enough to get into playoffs.

    That would be great. Valentine fits in perfectly in Boston. Dbag manager for a team full of dbags

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