Metal Evolution: Grunge

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  • fisttothejaw
    fisttothejaw Posts: 234
    DewieCox wrote:
    Lost In Ohio wrote:
    IMO, "alternative" didn't really come until later. That's sort of "softer" rock that isn't metal or hard rock.

    90s "alternative" really fits three molds. You have the grunge from the early 90s, stuff like Hole and Cake from the mid 90's, then you have the later 90s alternative, which was stuff like Third Eye Blind, Blink-182, Everclear, etc.

    Does this seem way off to anybody else? I was pretty young in the early 90s so I could be mistaken.


    Yeah, when I think of the birth of "alternative," I think of the 80's, like R.E.M., etc...
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  • Mamasan23
    Mamasan23 Posts: 16,390
    I've been watching this whole series because my hubby's a metalhead and was intrigued to see what they would say about the 'grunge' scene. Cool to see the Melvins and Hiro but as expected it fell flat. Once the biographer dude mentioned something about Pearl Jam 'going on hiatus' I turned it off.

    It's true that a lot of the bands were influenced by metal - hell Mike McCready's band Shadow is a hair metal band! So I'm glad that they actually acknowledged this evolution of music but I don't really think they got the whole truth of it. No Andy Wood mention = major fail.
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  • Rambis35
    Rambis35 Posts: 239
    DewieCox wrote:
    Lost In Ohio wrote:
    IMO, "alternative" didn't really come until later. That's sort of "softer" rock that isn't metal or hard rock.

    90s "alternative" really fits three molds. You have the grunge from the early 90s, stuff like Hole and Cake from the mid 90's, then you have the later 90s alternative, which was stuff like Third Eye Blind, Blink-182, Everclear, etc.

    Does this seem way off to anybody else? I was pretty young in the early 90s so I could be mistaken.

    Yeah, a band like Jane's Addiction Is who I consider a pioneer of alternative rock. I also think of Pearl Jam and Nirvana as more alternative than the bands mentioned above. Third Eye Blind and Blink-182 are just bad pop-"punk" bands to me.
  • Of The Aggie
    Of The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,553
    I've watched this series from the beginning and have been pretty disappointed in it. Every episode seems to only feature two bands and others just get a mention. I guess it's just who he was able to get interviews with but it just seems lacking. And as someone else mentioned when he falsely said Pearl Jam had gone on hiatus and basically acted as if they stopped making music altogether, then I got a little put off by the Grunge episode.
  • halv
    halv Posts: 716
    Just in case anyone hasn't seen it yet, you can watch the whole series here:
    http://www.muchmore.ca/metal-evolution/ ... 107-grunge

    Some great interviews, especially with Soundgarden.
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,865
    I love this show....the host is very intelligent, and they go very deep into their topics...very insightful interviews.
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    saw this last night...interesting...cool to see interviews with mark arm, melvins etc...i think "grunge" has a place in metal but to me it's more punk than metal

    and the clips of creed and nickleback was probably the first time in 15 years that i've heard those bands...man are they overwhelmingly bland...which as they basically admitted is what they were after but damn, did listening to that give me a headache

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