In your opinion who's the most over-rated guitar player?

your move now wrote:

Eilian wrote:

Mike, however perfectly his recorded efforts serve the song, is horrible 9 out 10 times he improvises live....I wish he'd pack it in and just play what he recorded. He ruins Even Flow, Immortality and Yellow Ledbetter live - all of which, he's recorded fucking brilliant solos for - and every other song that gets extended for him to nonsensically fret wank (Porch, Rearviewmirror, Of the Earth) is a good song destroyed in my opinion.

Really, I love Mikes improv work, especially on Even Flow and to a lesser extent yellow ledbetter

Whatever revs your engine I suppose. I just think that when the solo he's worked out in the studio is such a highlight of the song, noodling something incoherent is a bit like Vedder yodelling instead of singing the lyrics.

Of The Aggie wrote:

Indifference71 wrote:

Get_Right wrote:

Speaking of it might get loud, you can tell that neither Jack White or the Edge have any business being in the same room as Page.

Absolutely. That was an awesome idea for a documentary, but I wish they would have picked a couple other guys besides Edge and Jack White.

I'm wondering if they just couldn't get anyone else to participate.

Sticking with their theme of the different generations who could they have gotten that could stand up to Page? There's not anybody outside of his generation that A) has a body of work that can stand up to his and isn't gonna have that "Holy shit I'm in a room with Jimmy Page" feeling.

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Cobain's a good guitarist just like Dennis Rodman is a good basketball player. Rodman wasn''t exactly graceful like Michael Jordan (and Kurt isn't exactly technically sound like Eric Clapton), but Rodman was good at what he did and so was Kurt.

Like!

Plus Cobain even mentioned in interviews, it's all about passion no matter how sloppy.
He put his heart into all he did.
He never wanted to be a virtuoso guitarist.
His skill was crafting brilliant music with power chords, not all guitarists, even the virtuoso's can craft melodies like he did.

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Cobain's a good guitarist just like Dennis Rodman is a good basketball player. Rodman wasn''t exactly graceful like Michael Jordan (and Kurt isn't exactly technically sound like Eric Clapton), but Rodman was good at what he did and so was Kurt.

Like!

Plus Cobain even mentioned in interviews, it's all about passion no matter how sloppy.
He put his heart into all he did.
He never wanted to be a virtuoso guitarist.
His skill was crafting brilliant music with power chords, not all guitarists, even the virtuoso's can craft melodies like he did.

his skill was ripping off or borrowing from others.

I would probably say the edge.

And all you people saying Jack White are just crazy. :P

The Edge. Not forgetting Kirk Hammet or any other metal band's two-bit widdly fret board wanker!

At the other end of the scale just to justify that, John Martyn, Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Alex Lifeson, Omar Rodriguez, Rodrigo Y Gabriela, Martin Barre, Rory Gallagher, Ritchie Blackmore, Brian Setzer, Derek Trucks, Marc Ribot.

Compared to any of those Kirk Hammet sounds like two cats fighting in a helium filled dustbin.... Ugh, I hate the sounds he makes so much....

PearlJamaholic wrote:

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Cobain's a good guitarist just like Dennis Rodman is a good basketball player. Rodman wasn''t exactly graceful like Michael Jordan (and Kurt isn't exactly technically sound like Eric Clapton), but Rodman was good at what he did and so was Kurt.

Like!

Plus Cobain even mentioned in interviews, it's all about passion no matter how sloppy.
He put his heart into all he did.
He never wanted to be a virtuoso guitarist.
His skill was crafting brilliant music with power chords, not all guitarists, even the virtuoso's can craft melodies like he did.

his skill was ripping off or borrowing from others.

All guitarists do that....

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

PearlJamaholic wrote:

his skill was ripping off or borrowing from others.

All guitarists do that....

Not like Nirvana did, it's one thing to pay homage to bands you like and another to do something like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1U1Ue_5kq8
or this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbldM7JEIeE

So yeah, if your two biggest riffs are lifted from other bands, and you're famous cause of those riffs you are overrated. If Nirvana gave credit for these riffs it would be ok, but last time I looked at the Nevermind credits it said all music by Nirvana....

The only other rock band I can think of that did this better was Zeppelin.

Kurt was nothing but a pop star. He had hardly any musical talent or creativity. He was just the right image at the right time, and that sounds like pop culture to me.

And every time I hear "Oh he didnt want to be famous," I wanna puke. He did all those Rolling Stone interviews, and MTV appearances. He wanted the spotlight, just another media whore pop star.

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

Lacks creativity? lol
Perhaps you ignored his lyrics....

And whilst those songs may sound similar, they are far away from what Nirvana did, they are not exactly the same.

It kills people to admit Cobain stole riffs for two of Nirvana's most precious songs.

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

Lacks creativity? lol
Perhaps you ignored his lyrics....

And whilst those songs may sound similar, they are far away from what Nirvana did, they are not exactly the same.

Ummm from Kurt's own admission, he ignored lyrics. he has been quoted as saying music first, lyrics second. but this isnt about his teenage poetry, this thread is about overrated guitarists. And since Kurt didnt write his most famous riffs and couldnt play beyond power chords and 4/4 timing, yet is somehow deemed a legend, he is overrated. I don't see how anyone can argue that.