We're just asking everyone to pay their fair share

WaveRyder
WaveRyder Posts: 1,128
edited February 2012 in A Moving Train
Liberals love to say things like, "We're just asking everyone to pay their fair share." But government is not about asking. It is about telling. The difference is fundamental. It is the difference between making love and being raped, between working for a living and being a slave. The Internal Revenue service is not asking anybody to do anything. It confiscates your assets and puts you behind bars if you don't pay. – Thomas Sowell, Forbes, July 1994
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  • marcos
    marcos Posts: 2,112
    I've always felt that the government doesn't understand how to properly manage and spend the money they do have. I have seen it first hand at the state and city levels.
  • WaveRyder
    WaveRyder Posts: 1,128
    im not an extremist but i think people need to understand that the govt does use force to get ppl to pay "their fair share." If the left cant understand that. then there is no chance of compromising with the right.
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  • marcos
    marcos Posts: 2,112
    As they say the only thing for sure are death & taxes. Perhaps the problem is the definition of fair share, that's where people get lost?
  • markin ball
    markin ball Posts: 1,076
    marcos wrote:
    I've always felt that the government doesn't understand how to properly manage and spend the money they do have. I have seen it first hand at the state and city levels.

    Stop voting for people that mismanage the money. The problem is us. We get the government we deserve.
    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."

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  • marcos
    marcos Posts: 2,112
    markin ball wrote:
    marcos wrote:
    I've always felt that the government doesn't understand how to properly manage and spend the money they do have. I have seen it first hand at the state and city levels.

    Stop voting for people that mismanage the money. The problem is us. We get the government we deserve.

    You're absolutely right that the problem is us. We never do anything to really shake up the system. I would further venture to say that the financial collapse is our fault. I've thought that he best way to recover is to realize we were part of the problem.
  • Out of My Mind and Time
    Out of My Mind and Time Posts: 1,333
    That's it! Fuk this. Grabbed my board and I'm going surfing! We are fucked 360. :mrgreen:
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Pay their fair share for WHAT?

    I don't understand people continually calling for others to pay higher taxes. Let's get government spending under control and maybe people don't have to pay more.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    know1 wrote:
    Pay their fair share for WHAT?

    I don't understand people continually calling for others to pay higher taxes. Let's get government spending under control and maybe people don't have to pay more.


    :clap: :clap: :thumbup: we have a winner !!!!!


    Godfather.
  • SweetChildofMine
    SweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    Government spending starts with the biggest expense called the military complex. Not social services which you all bitch about (if the people are socially inept because of lack thereof or welfare abuse or whatever tickles your nuts to bitch about human services time ) and its preposterous.


    I suggest if the corporate world wants us to use our military to secure their plunder they better f'ing pay for it. Im thinking some corporations owe "us" 3 trillion from the last "war" alone.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    WaveRyder wrote:
    Liberals love to say things like, "We're just asking everyone to pay their fair share." But government is not about asking. It is about telling. The difference is fundamental. It is the difference between making love and being raped, between working for a living and being a slave. The Internal Revenue service is not asking anybody to do anything. It confiscates your assets and puts you behind bars if you don't pay. – Thomas Sowell, Forbes, July 1994

    fine...

    let's do away with taxes...I'm sure that will cure all your ills...
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    SweetChildofMine wrote:
    Government spending starts with the biggest expense called the military complex. Not social services which you all bitch about (if the people are socially inept because of lack thereof or welfare abuse or whatever tickles your nuts to bitch about human services time ) and its preposterous.


    I suggest if the corporate world wants us to use our military to secure their plunder they better f'ing pay for it. Im thinking some corporations owe "us" 3 trillion from the last "war" alone.

    Why would the corporations owe us money? They're just trying to make money. They aren't the ones directly sending our troops to war. Of course they could be lobbying, sure. What you need is a guy that doesn't listen to them.
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    inmytree wrote:
    WaveRyder wrote:
    Liberals love to say things like, "We're just asking everyone to pay their fair share." But government is not about asking. It is about telling. The difference is fundamental. It is the difference between making love and being raped, between working for a living and being a slave. The Internal Revenue service is not asking anybody to do anything. It confiscates your assets and puts you behind bars if you don't pay. – Thomas Sowell, Forbes, July 1994

    fine...

    let's do away with taxes...I'm sure that will cure all your ills...

    Perhaps not, but maybe people will actually have more money to spend.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    WaveRyder wrote:
    Liberals love to say things like, "We're just asking everyone to pay their fair share." But government is not about asking. It is about telling. The difference is fundamental. It is the difference between making love and being raped, between working for a living and being a slave. The Internal Revenue service is not asking anybody to do anything. It confiscates your assets and puts you behind bars if you don't pay. – Thomas Sowell, Forbes, July 1994

    fine...

    let's do away with taxes...I'm sure that will cure all your ills...

    Perhaps not, but maybe people will actually have more money to spend.

    good point...perhaps police and fire services can go to a fee for service model...no money no service...
  • SweetChildofMine
    SweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    SweetChildofMine wrote:
    Government spending starts with the biggest expense called the military complex. Not social services which you all bitch about (if the people are socially inept because of lack thereof or welfare abuse or whatever tickles your nuts to bitch about human services time ) and its preposterous.


    I suggest if the corporate world wants us to use our military to secure their plunder they better f'ing pay for it. Im thinking some corporations owe "us" 3 trillion from the last "war" alone.

    Why would the corporations owe us money? They're just trying to make money. They aren't the ones directly sending our troops to war. Of course they could be lobbying, sure. What you need is a guy that doesn't listen to them.
    Its all about the corporations. They are the biggest profiteers off the government dollar. Our share as average Joe taxpayer is larger than corporations but who reaps the benefits and doesnt pay their fair share? Then any policy we make has to do with "them" not "us" as little Joe Citizen. Believe me.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,669
    WaveRyder wrote:
    im not an extremist but i think people need to understand that the govt does use force to get ppl to pay "their fair share." If the left cant understand that. then there is no chance of compromising with the right.

    I think nearly everyone, left and right, understand that not paying taxes is illegal and you can go to jail as a result. People want to use the word 'steal' in relation to taxes, which to me makes it seem like you're going to go around feeling like a victim. For myself, I see taxes as necessary to function and focus frustration about it on particular spending I don't agree with.
  • Vitalogy Man
    Vitalogy Man Posts: 174
    WaveRyder wrote:
    Liberals love to say things like, "We're just asking everyone to pay their fair share." But government is not about asking. It is about telling. The difference is fundamental. It is the difference between making love and being raped, between working for a living and being a slave. The Internal Revenue service is not asking anybody to do anything. It confiscates your assets and puts you behind bars if you don't pay. – Thomas Sowell, Forbes, July 1994


    It warms my heart to see THOMAS SOWELL quoted on the Train.


    There is hope for the future...
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    SweetChildofMine wrote:
    Government spending starts with the biggest expense called the military complex. Not social services which you all bitch about (if the people are socially inept because of lack thereof or welfare abuse or whatever tickles your nuts to bitch about human services time ) and its preposterous.


    I suggest if the corporate world wants us to use our military to secure their plunder they better f'ing pay for it. Im thinking some corporations owe "us" 3 trillion from the last "war" alone.


    If I am not mistaken, isn't there ~60% in "social program" spending in the budget at the federal level...just saying...I may not fully understand how the budget works, but that seems like the lions share. If we spent nothing on dept of defense spending last year I think we would still have run a deficit.

    I agree the military industrial complex is a problem however...there is a reason we were warned about it by an outgoing president. Money spent on active military campaigns needs to be stopped...
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Vitalogy Man wrote:
    WaveRyder wrote:
    Liberals love to say things like, "We're just asking everyone to pay their fair share." But government is not about asking. It is about telling. The difference is fundamental. It is the difference between making love and being raped, between working for a living and being a slave. The Internal Revenue service is not asking anybody to do anything. It confiscates your assets and puts you behind bars if you don't pay. – Thomas Sowell, Forbes, July 1994


    It warms my heart to see THOMAS SOWELL quoted on the Train.


    There is hope for the future...


    :lol::lol:

    yeah, cuz were all doooooomed...dooooooomed unless we embrace THOMAS SOWELL into our hearts....
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    SweetChildofMine wrote:
    Then any policy we make has to do with "them" not "us" as little Joe Citizen. Believe me.

    Yeah I know what you mean there. And why is that? Because they lobby our politicians.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Go Beavers wrote:
    WaveRyder wrote:
    im not an extremist but i think people need to understand that the govt does use force to get ppl to pay "their fair share." If the left cant understand that. then there is no chance of compromising with the right.

    I think nearly everyone, left and right, understand that not paying taxes is illegal and you can go to jail as a result. People want to use the word 'steal' in relation to taxes, which to me makes it seem like you're going to go around feeling like a victim. For myself, I see taxes as necessary to function and focus frustration about it on particular spending I don't agree with.

    exactly...

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