Religious Beliefs
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blondieblue227 wrote:sorry to be late. thanks for all the posts to me.
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when a person is that hardcore, i just can't share my view with them. they are so programed and locked in at that point. then it gets to be a contest possibly if you do share rather than it being a convo. it's a contest because their faith just has to be stronger and better than the other persons view.
yup i know. i hate to fire her over this. i hope resentments don't grow now. to start her speel, She said i know you don't like religion talk... BUT....
see again with the factor attached to religion, Spread His Word.
it's so hard to find decent aides.
Amen, Sister.
I like a good theological discussion, which I have with several friends, including an Air Force Chaplin and a friend of a friend who is a priest. The problem is... most people cannot discuss religion in an objective manner. It is too personal and when it turns to shit... it smells really bad. Most discussions turn to the point where they feel they HAVE to get their point across, that their point is right, thus, automatically making yours wrong... even if you are like me... where when it comes to religion, all views are right... in a relative (not absolute) way. Discussion typically turns to sludge and parties get defensive and use circular reasoning or just plain bullshit.
Sometimes, it's best to just let it be.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!0 -
blondie, I read your earlier posts and meant to say this before...I hope you and she can find a middleground - it's an unusual dynamic for a relationship, I would think - aide and aidee (?) - but you strike me as level-headed and strong in your convictions. This shouldn't be something you have to bear, since it seems you have other things going on on top of this. Bravo to you for not taking it personally.
One of these days, I'll share the story of a former coworker who would spend nights typing messages she was receiving from god. All of our interactions eventually focused on that, and only that. Beyond uncomfortable for me - much like the contest you spoke of.
I wish you very well.0 -
hedonist wrote:.... it's an unusual dynamic for a relationship, I would think - aide and aidee (?) -hedonist wrote:.... All of our interactions eventually focused on that, and only that. Beyond uncomfortable for me - much like the contest you spoke of.
I think that is a common problem. The theist wanting to 'share', to 'open your heart' for you, 'save you' etc. not understanding that this is what they find comfort/happiness sometimes thinking it's the only way. Not to mention the salvation (heaven or hell) thing. The 'you'll see when the time comes' with a little knowing wink. This can be quite intrusive. Blondie - I had to let go a PA due to this kind 'intrusiveness'. It would seem the 'I'll pray for you'/'god will take care of things', etc. stuff was sort of clouding her judgement and her perception of disability (something lacking that can be filled with god? pity? Not sure how to define it....) and thus affecting her performance.
Beliefs are exactly that - beliefs (whatever they may be) and thus personal. 'Preaching' is one thing, having reasoned theological discussions is another. The latter being where one can actually learn.0 -
blondieblue227 wrote:yes, i just hope i'm not shoving Inclusion down anybody's throat.
yup i know. i hate to fire her over this. i hope resentments don't grow now. to start her speel, She said i know you don't like religion talk... BUT....
see again with the factor attached to religion, Spread His Word.
it's so hard to find decent aides.
I deal with inclusion issues too Blondie, having a daughter with DS and myself being temporarily disabled. I think you may remember from the past since I've spoke about this before with you. Don't ever feel like you are ever shoving inclusion down anyone's throat; it's a really important issue and there is not enough attention to this issue that everyone should be included regardless of the difference in ability. Keep up the awesome work you are doing!! You're very inspiring!
I really think that your issue with your aid could be nipped in the bud, though, with some direct communication about the preaching. If you let it go, it will never end, and you just may end up firing her because of it, because it may drive you to that point. Just sit down, choose the right way to tell her that you're not interested in being preached or talked down to, and perhaps your relationship can move on with more open communication. I've done this and it makes a world of difference. Good luck!0 -
yes cosmo you summed it up perfectly. there's just no talking to some people about it. which is sad, but oh well.
hedonist - yikes! talk about uncomfortable. sounds like an attention seeker, or a deeply religious person, or somebody that was hearing voices and needed help.
HAHAHAHA! i'm sorry to be laughing. but funny how the three all relate.
redrock - you are right. an aide is not a 2nd mother or a friend. thou i have had aides turn into friends i try to keep it as professional as possible.
yup, it's the pity factor that is tied in with disability with some religious people. i can't stand it. but it's really flipped. i pity them them because they can't see people with disabilities for who they are. we are just fine.
just my opinion, i freggin can't stand, God will take care of it. it's so passive.
hi jeanwah! how are you?
thank you for the encouragement.
my aide hasn't brought it up since that one time, so i'm leaving it alone.*~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*0 -
http://www.theage.com.au/world/bizarre- ... 1sybu.html
Dont worry China bought out members of the Vatican too.
Plus the said above members also laundering money for the mob or "Italian Businessmen"
http://www.businessinsider.com/vatican- ... ign=europe
How big is the international corruption wall? Seeping and melding into your religious beliefs.
(its just the info in one of the seals of Lourdes)0 -
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well actually, if we want to get technical knowledgeable servants make Saturday their day of worship only and blasphemers on Sunday0
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I love Sundays ... they are an awesome day of the week
rarely do we have to work at anything but love0 -
yup. Love. that's all there is.
i fellow pj pit-er posted this on fb. (i won't tell who)but i thought it would fit well here.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/b ... 7/bhjf.jpg*~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*0 -
I'm agnostic...I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon0 -
This is a funny blog about being saved from the Zealots on the Crazy Train.0 -
Comparitively in the Bible it talks about the regrowth of the "fig tree" and reflecting the meaning of Bodhi tree in Buddhism and Hinduism. I am convinced Christ teachings were also deeply rooted with eastern philosophies.
The bodhi tree was symbolic of "awake-ness" long before Prince Siddartha Gautama entered the opening of enlightenment beneath its leaves in 528 B.C..
Indeed, the name bodhi or (also known as bo) means "awakening." Even the scientific world recognizes the spiritual associations with this tree as its botanical name, ficus religiosa, means "religious fig."
The bodhi tree is sacred in India, and venerated in Bodhgaya where it is said the descendant of the original tree where the Buddha experienced spiritual awakening still grows.
Even before the Buddha's spiritual expansion sparked the revolutionary religious teachings of Buddhism, the bodhi tree symbolism was associated with Vishnu, a major archetypal Hindu god. Vishnu is the sustainer of the universe and part of the holy trinity with Brahma and Shiva completing the divine triad.
Ancient Indian art depicts Vishnu nestled amongst the delicate leaves of the bodhi, peering out through the universe with his infinite spiritual vision. It makes me wonder if the bodhi was a source of energy for Vishnu.
The bodhi tree was symbolic of "awake-ness" long before Prince Siddartha Gautama entered the opening of enlightenment beneath its leaves in 528 B.C..
Indeed, the name bodhi or (also known as bo) means "awakening." Even the scientific world recognizes the spiritual associations with this tree as its botanical name, ficus religiosa, means "religious fig."
The bodhi tree is sacred in India, and venerated in Bodhgaya where it is said the descendant of the original tree where the Buddha experienced spiritual awakening still grows.
Even before the Buddha's spiritual expansion sparked the revolutionary religious teachings of Buddhism, the bodhi tree symbolism was associated with Vishnu, a major archetypal Hindu god. Vishnu is the sustainer of the universe and part of the holy trinity with Brahma and Shiva completing the divine triad.
Ancient Indian art depicts Vishnu nestled amongst the delicate leaves of the bodhi, peering out through the universe with his infinite spiritual vision. It makes me wonder if the bodhi was a source of energy for Vishnu.
Looking at the bodhi, it wouldn't be an unreasonable assumption. It exhudes a high, bright light and fine energy. Also, what would be the difference of Celtic texts and the tree of Life. For me such teahing were kept possibly one and the same.0 -
Wow. This is quite the thread.
I think the idea of God's existence is the best way to understand the supreme arrogance of human beings.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
PJ_Soul3388 wrote:Wow. This is quite the thread.
I think the idea of God's existence is the best way to understand the supreme arrogance of human beings.Very outstanding point.
C'mon... someone minister wants to talk about the "abstractness" parables... lets go...
Im kidding... maybe.0 -
A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell. ~C.S. Lewis0
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Ive never read the Bible much except for maybe one part, song of solomon... honest0
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"What do you think of God," the teacher asked. After a pause, the young pupil replied,
"He's not a think, he's a feel."
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squirt wrote:A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell. ~C.S. Lewis
well if the word was on giant plank of common sense, then yes, he can.Gimli 1993
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