Betterman-Mansfield

Taft
Taft Posts: 457
edited June 2008 in Given To Fly (live)
This deserves its own thread, period.


Preface- I have been to 100+ shows, I have a 40,000-ish Tenclub #, none of it matters.


I admit, when this song is normally played, I endure it, but do not enjoy it. HOWEVER, tonight, after the first verse, the crowd response was unlike anything I have ever seen, it was truly special.

I felt it was a moment of appreciation for Ed, and all the great moments he has brought to Boston. And he deserves it. We were up front and the rest of the band (and Ed) were in shock by the reaction.

The crowd noise, and more importantly the length of the noise was unbelievable!

Never, ever would I have believed I would go to a great Pearl Jam show and leave saying that Betterman was the highlight...but that is what happened tonight.
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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,016
    Thats awesome! I give a big round of applause to the classics. Even though I'd rather hear rarities I realize that those songs still rock and became mega hits for a reason.
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  • hinx
    hinx Posts: 416
    Yeah, that was pretty awesome.
  • inmytree0991
    inmytree0991 Posts: 122
    yea, im not saying better man at msgII was better than at mansfield but i totally know where you are coming from. i normally do not love the song but the crowd was just screaming along to the lyrics and the energy was amazing. then when eddie tagged the "dont run away run away run away..." part of save it for later and screamed "dont let me down" i nearly lost it. it was AMAZING. i dont know why but that part of the show really was outstanding.
  • solat24
    solat24 Posts: 7
    that had me im awe. i am so glad to be a part of that there will never be a greater feeling to truly give them the appreciation they deserve and ed's body told it all
  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    he had done the very same thing at msg,
    at the same time in the opening parts of that song.

    it wasnt as wellreceived and didnt have the clear impact on ed that it did tonight.

    i think even he was a bit overwhelmed.


    i also liked when he came back out after one of the encores and was under the spotlight on the drum set. he played a little ratta-tat-tat and then proceded to his usual spot.


    great show!


    off he goes ?


    :eek:


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  • tombrady12
    tombrady12 Posts: 57
    the cheer went on and on louder and louder it was def a special moment.
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  • U R A Crazy Breed
    U R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    i had the chills,it was so fucking awesome!!
  • ontheroad
    ontheroad Posts: 259
    You are completely right...it was a moment to say thanks...goosebumps, what a response.

    At the end of the song Ed said "unbelievable" with a look of awe.

    It was so loud that the concrete was shaking under our feet...got to be a first for an outdoor venue.
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  • Lostdoggie
    Lostdoggie Posts: 257
    I agree with everything you said, Taft. I like Betterman but it's not why I go to the shows. In fact tonight when Eddie started playing it I turned to my friend and said "the girls love this song" but wow, easily the highlight of the night.
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  • foucault
    foucault Posts: 13
    I've heard Betterman so many times...they've played it at every show I've seen. All that in mind, I was blown away by the audience response tonight, and Ed's visible reaction. It's pretty amazing to see a crowd have such an effect on the band, rather than the other way around. = )
  • BlackCorduroy
    BlackCorduroy Posts: 1,374
    Ed's reaction was the greatest. It was such an awesome moment.
  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    Wait til you hear the boot. It was just incredible. We would not let him continue. He was in awe of the crowd right then. I have no words. Just when I think I have seen it all, something the band or the fans do amazes me. My wife and I had goosebumps during that moment and it made every penny worth it.
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  • RipitLikePujols
    RipitLikePujols Posts: 219
    Just bought the boot....these reflections give me goosebumps...and bring tears....sounds like an amazing a appreciation of the band.,.......................................WHAT A SPECIAL MOMENT FOR ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wish I could see the band's reaction....hopefully some of the emotion will come through in the boot.................

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  • Flagg
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    It was special. You have to hear this. The thunder of the crowd of the crowd yelling and then beating on those chairs. I am speechless (even though I have said a lot on this).
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  • Spot In The Sky
    Spot In The Sky Posts: 1,175
    Wow this def sounds better than the norm, I think I will get the boot for this song alone based on this thread.
    The Betterman at Camden 1 was pretty special I thought.
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  • The Akkus
    The Akkus Posts: 1,095
    I wish I could have been there!
    So far, the best betterman I have ever heard is Alpine Vally 2003.
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  • loucifa
    loucifa Posts: 42
    This was no doubt the highlight of the show.

    Got back to the car after show and talked about it with wife and she said "that was the first time I've seen the crowd take control from Ed and it was awesome!"

    Was a great moment!
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  • kh65
    kh65 Posts: 946
    Taft wrote:
    This deserves its own thread, period.


    Preface- I have been to 100+ shows, I have a 40,000-ish Tenclub #, none of it matters.


    I admit, when this song is normally played, I endure it, but do not enjoy it. HOWEVER, tonight, after the first verse, the crowd response was unlike anything I have ever seen, it was truly special.

    I felt it was a moment of appreciation for Ed, and all the great moments he has brought to Boston. And he deserves it. We were up front and the rest of the band (and Ed) were in shock by the reaction.

    The crowd noise, and more importantly the length of the noise was unbelievable!

    Never, ever would I have believed I would go to a great Pearl Jam show and leave saying that Betterman was the highlight...but that is what happened tonight.

    I couldn't agree more!! I think it left Ed speachless and I was really surprised he didn't say something about it. But he was totally enjoying it! I can't wait to relive it on the boot!! If you weren't there words can't do that reaction justice. :)

    BTW.. I was in row D sec. 2 right by Stone's mike and I had great view of Ed's face. He honestly couldn't believe it, he even turned back to the band and said something to them.
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  • PJim87
    PJim87 Posts: 18
    Was my first pearl jam concert ever being to, and i had my 5 songs i wished they would play all being fast hard songs ( severed hand, go, animal, state of love and trust, and life wasted). And i got one of em, but i will never get over the betterman. Corny as it may sound that was mind blowing. Very special moment, and everyone that is only going to the second show really missed out, doubt it will happen again. BUT we can always hope for it
  • LongerRoad
    LongerRoad Posts: 72
    can someone throw this up on youtube?

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