SANTORUM GIVES 'EM THE SHOCKER!!!

MayDay Malone
MayDay Malone Posts: 641
edited February 2012 in A Moving Train
Hat's off to Rick Santorum- who was given no press, no money, and no chance by most Americans- but
Mr. Santorum- the only candidate to visit every county in the state (doing it mostly in a pick up truck)- earned Iowans' votes one at a time.

Its refreshing to see a politician have to work for it- instead of just spending millions more than everyone else on negative attacks.


Bachman, Perry, and Huntsman got the knockout punch.

This was Paul's only chance for a win- he has no chance in NH or SC. He is effectively finished.

Romney will dominate NH, and the Conservatives will bounce back in SC- watch out for Newt and Santorum.

In the end, independents and disillusioned ex-Obama-voters will overpower the conservatives in the GOP, and we will have another RINO-middle-of-the-road, spend-like-a-democrat-Bushie-McCain-type: Mitt Romney.

Anyways, the day belongs to Rick Santorum.... give credit where credit is due.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Pretty impressive considering he was on life support a week ago. The tough part will be trying to keep momentum going. While Romney has been idling at around 25%, his contenders tend to peak and then fall by the wayside.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,401
    his campaign will fizzle once quotes like him saying "i don't want to improve black people's lives with welfare" make it into the mainstream press...

    santorum just put a big target on his back so the media frenzy begins NOW...they will do to him what they did to gingrich.

    there is not room in our government for racist religious zealots that have gone on record saying they would bomb iran.

    my question for santorum is how do you reconcile your willingness to bomb iran and ask questions later with your faith that clearly states "thou shalt not kill"??.
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  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    He has personality, feels like Mitt's just been playing this game longer, feels like it's his turn at bat. maybe next time.
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Neo-cons....they spend like liberals but they like to send others to blow shit up, so it is okay.

    But he did run the right kind of campaign that wins in Iowa and he does deserve credit for that...his finish also shows how likability will trump policy just about every time. People want to believe that their politicians are guys they would have a beer with...nevermind how they actually vote...listening to them tell their promises under the guise of a regular joe six-pack is so much more important than what they have actually done when in power...
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    Santorum is an idiot. Plain and simple, but at least he lets you know right up front that he is an idiot, so he has that going for him.

    This was hardly a knock out punch for Huntsman...he threw in the towel in Iowa before it even began. NH will show whether he has any shot at all or if he should just bow out. Too bad too, he seems like the best candidate.

    As for Perry and Bachmann, I think they are listening to Aretha Franklin now.

    Mitt is going to win the nomination and the presidency. I hope he does something with it.
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  • Santorum is an idiot. Plain and simple, but at least he lets you know right up front that he is an idiot, so he has that going for him.

    This was hardly a knock out punch for Huntsman...he threw in the towel in Iowa before it even began. NH will show whether he has any shot at all or if he should just bow out. Too bad too, he seems like the best candidate.

    As for Perry and Bachmann, I think they are listening to Aretha Franklin now.

    Mitt is going to win the nomination and the presidency. I hope he does something with it.

    agree that Mitt will win the nomination, however, I don't think he stands a chance with the Presidency. There are just too many people that absolutely will NOT vote for a mormon. More than the anti-black vote for sure. I think it is a rational decision, considering the insane world views that mormons advocate.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    I think it is a rational decision, considering the insane world views that mormons advocate.


    Really? Do tell.

    I think his religion hurts Mitt in the primary, but not in the general election.

    I also can't wait until we talk very little about religion during an election. Hahahaha...like that will ever happen.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Santorum 1. The frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex. 2. Senator Rick Santorum.

    It's true......Google it. The internet does not lie.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,401
    dignin wrote:
    Santorum 1. The frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex. 2. Senator Rick Santorum.

    It's true......Google it. The internet does not lie.
    :sick:

    someone posted this on facebook yesterday...

    if rick wins the nomination will he be the 1. definition?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    dignin wrote:
    Santorum 1. The frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex. 2. Senator Rick Santorum.

    It's true......Google it. The internet does not lie.
    :sick:

    someone posted this on facebook yesterday...

    if rick wins the nomination will he be the 1. definition?

    Nope, he'll be running against #1.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Santorum is the Huckabee of 2012. Impressive showing in a state he should do well in, but he literally has no money. It's going to take all of the Perry and Bachmann supporters to start throwing money his way for him to make a decent race of it in SC and FLA.

    I think the big question now is how much does Newt want to damage a Romney general election campaign? Newt is PISSED, very vindictive, and I don't think it'd be a stretch to say that he'd prefer Obama beating Romney and getting him out of the way forever than getting Mitt elected President. I know Newt is trying to come across as the elder statesman of the group, but Newt is a bulldog and don't rule out him going for the jugular on Romney.
  • I think it is a rational decision, considering the insane world views that mormons advocate.


    Really? Do tell.

    I think his religion hurts Mitt in the primary, but not in the general election.

    I also can't wait until we talk very little about religion during an election. Hahahaha...like that will ever happen.

    you don't know how WEIRD the Mormon religion is??? are you a teenager or something?

    here's a small example; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPGE6CzZ ... re=related
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    I think it is a rational decision, considering the insane world views that mormons advocate.


    Really? Do tell.

    I think his religion hurts Mitt in the primary, but not in the general election.

    I also can't wait until we talk very little about religion during an election. Hahahaha...like that will ever happen.

    you don't know how WEIRD the Mormon religion is??? are you a teenager or something?

    here's a small example; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPGE6CzZ ... re=related

    No, I know about Mormons. I wanted you to actually write down what about it bothers you and what about it you feel would keep Mitt from doing a good job at being president. Cause from where I stand, Christians have been fucking up quite a bit in that job.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    I think it is a rational decision, considering the insane world views that mormons advocate.


    Really? Do tell.

    I think his religion hurts Mitt in the primary, but not in the general election.

    I also can't wait until we talk very little about religion during an election. Hahahaha...like that will ever happen.

    you don't know how WEIRD the Mormon religion is??? are you a teenager or something?

    here's a small example; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPGE6CzZ ... re=related

    By the way, love the personal attack. You are really doing well so far in 2012.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,401
    Santorum Singles Out Black People as Dependent on Government

    By Naureen Khan | National Journal – Tue, Jan 3, 2012....Email

    http://news.yahoo.com/santorum-singles- ... 35658.html


    SIOUX CITY, Iowa – Rick Santorum added a twist to the Republican argument that President Obama wants to make people more dependent on the federal government. He singled out blacks as people whose lives he would improve without using "somebody else's money."

    The comment came Sunday in response to a man’s question about foreign influence on the U.S. economy. "How do we get off this crazy train? We've got so much foreign influence in this country now," the man said. "Where do we go from here?"

    In a lengthy answer, Santorum talked about reviving U.S. manufacturing and then pivoted to the government-dependency theme.

    "What President Obama wants to do, his economic plan is to make more people dependent upon government. To grow the government, to make sure we have more food stamps, and more SSI, and more Medicaid. Four in 10 children are now on government-provided health care. It just keeps expanding," Santorum said.

    He talked about how Iowa is going to get fined if more people don’t sign up for Medicaid and then said, "They're pushing harder and harder to get more and more of you dependent upon them so they can get your vote. That's what the bottom line is. So I don't want to make black people’s lives better by giving them somebody else's money. I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money and provide for themselves and their families."
    ..


    yes, with WHAT JOBS rick???
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    edited January 2012
    SANTORUM ON THE FORUM!

    AND THE SHOCKER! WHAT A DAY!


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    I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money and provide for themselves and their families."

    GREAT IDEA RICK!!!!!!!

    THIS I CAN SUPPORT. EVERYBODY WORKING!

    WOOT!
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  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    edited January 2012
    By the way, love the personal attack. You are really doing well so far in 2012.

    why is everyone here so sensitive? I just assume everyone is my age or older... sometimes I step back and ask what someone's age is.

    if you know what is so weird about Mormonism, why in this world do you want me to write it down for you?

    :?

    edit: oh, and if you don't understand why it would not be good to have a president who believes black people are the descendants of Cain and are inherently evil... or that Indians are the descendants of Jews and were painted red by God... then there isn't really point in talking about this.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    By the way, love the personal attack. You are really doing well so far in 2012.

    why is everyone here so sensitive? I just assume everyone is my age or older... sometimes I step back and ask what someone's age is.

    if you know what is so weird about Mormonism, why in this world do you want me to write it down for you?

    :?

    I already said I wanted to know what you dislike about it and how you think that will effect Mitt Romney's ability to be a good president.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/0 ... f=politics

    Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum, whose strong base of evangelical Christian supporters has thrust him into contention in Iowa, said on Monday that he believes states should have the right to outlaw birth control and sodomy without the interference of the Supreme Court.

    In an interview with Jake Tapper on ABC News, Santorum reiterated his opposition to the Supreme Court’s 1965 ruling that prevented Connecticut from banning contraception.

    “The state has a right to do that, I have never questioned that the state has a right to do that," he said. "It is not a constitutional right. The state has the right to pass whatever statutes they have. That's the thing I have said about the activism of the Supreme Court--they are creating rights, and it should be left up to the people to decide."

    Santorum said he also opposes the Supreme Court's 2003 Lawrence v. Texas decision striking down a ban on sodomy in Texas and 13 other states. Even though he would not personally vote for a ban on sodomy, he said, he thinks states should legally be able to pass them, because sodomy is not a constitutionally protected right.

    "I thought that law was an improper law ... but that doesn't mean the state doesn’t have a right to do that," he said.

    Disdain for the Supreme Court is becoming a common thread among the GOP candidates. Rick Perry once slammed the Lawrence decision, describing it as the work of "nine oligarchs in robes," although he forgot what the case was about when a reporter asked him about it in Iowa last week. Newt Gingrich recently said he would ignore Supreme Court rulings he dislikes and impeach those judges that make what he believes are "anti-American decisions." Ron Paul has said he would leave many issues to the states, including abortion, same-sex marriage and religion, and frontrunner Mitt Romney agrees that states should have the right to ban abortion.

    The political impact of allowing state legislatures to make decisions on social issues such as birth control, abortion and sex acts could be massive. In 2011 alone, state GOP lawmakers introduced 600 bills restricting abortion and passed a record 91 of those bills, and five states placed new restrictions on access to birth control and family planning. The 24 states that passed abortion restrictions stopped short of banning abortion entirely, only because they would face lengthy court battles if they passed bills that fly in the face of Supreme Court precedents preventing states from placing an "undue burden" on a woman's ability to seek an abortion.

    For instance, the courts blocked Kansas from passing a law that would have shut down all three abortion clinics in the state, and prevented Nevada from putting a fetal personhood measure on the state ballot that would have banned abortion and certain kinds of birth control. Judges in three states -- Indiana, North Carolina and Kansas -- blocked the enforcement of laws defunding Planned Parenthood this year, unanimously ruling that state governments may not punish a particular health provider for offering abortion services.

    The courts will be powerless to block those kinds of laws from going into effect if the GOP candidates have their way, and states would have the power to ban abortion, sodomy, birth control, gay marriage and whatever else a majority of state lawmakers morally oppose. Women and same-sex couples in socially conservative states would be out of luck.But Santorum says if people have a problem with the laws in their state, they can just take their frustration to the voting booth.

    "You shouldn’t create constitutional rights when states do dumb things," he told Tapper. "You should let the people decide if the states are doing dumb things, get rid of the legislature and replace them."

    Fuck this guy
  • By the way, love the personal attack. You are really doing well so far in 2012.

    why is everyone here so sensitive? I just assume everyone is my age or older... sometimes I step back and ask what someone's age is.

    if you know what is so weird about Mormonism, why in this world do you want me to write it down for you?

    :?

    I already said I wanted to know what you dislike about it and how you think that will effect Mitt Romney's ability to be a good president.

    see my previous post... the "edit" part.

    i.e., he's batshit crazy.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.