I don't know if you guys have seen month ago or so a funniest PJ poster auction ever.
The guy had PJ Portugal/Spain 96 Ames poster that he listed as a mint,
the only problem was that the poster was painted over and he cut the poster and change his shape :shock: ....
other than that it was mint
I wish I had a link to show it
CAN'T KEEP CRAZY MARY IN MY TREE NO WAY NOT FOR YOU. ALL THOSE YESTERDAY JEREMY is ALONE, SAD with RATS & BUGS it's HARD TO IMAGINE a JEREMY a BETTER MAN.
LIFE WASTED, BLOOD on the PORCH, LAST KISS is a WISHLIST DEEP DOWN NOTHING AS IT SEEMS WHY GO COME BACK ALIVE SPIN THE BLACK CIRCLE and SMILE.
I don't know if you guys have seen month ago or so a funniest PJ poster auction ever.
The guy had PJ Portugal/Spain 96 Ames poster that he listed as a mint,
the only problem was that the poster was painted over and he cut the poster and change his shape :shock: ....
other than that it was mint
I wish I had a link to show it
I did see that auction, and actually contacted the seller to confirm he was the one who indeed cut out the image field from the white border and painted over it because he "didn't like the colors." Informed him it was too bad, as an unaltered example of the poster would fetch ~ $500.
On another note, in line with what's been discussed about fakes, I recall a seller by the name of Piotr (spelling?) from Eastern Europe (Poland perhaps?) who was selling fake '96 Istanbul posters on eBay a few years back. When I called him out on it he began restricting which countries his auctions would be displayed for so as not to be noticed. His fake '96 Istanbul was easily identifiable, with the digits "19" in the image field painted brown inside the numbers when in fact those digits should not have any paint inside of them. There was also a fake '98 Raleigh floating around...I remember the tell-tale sign being the yellow color missing from the flower inside the image field.
IMO it's always worth dealing with respected and reputable sellers/traders/collectors and paying top dollar for a poster you're after (unless, of course, you find yourself a good deal you shouldn't/wouldn't walk away from). It's not worth it trying to save a few dollars only to end up with a fake that would take the wind out of your sails every time you admired it. At least that's how I feel about the matter.
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
Just saw a 98 Melbourne poster with the knife-wielding scuba guy on it. One of my faves from that tour. Only $52 right now... Something fishy about it though...
6/27/98 - East Troy, WI
6/29/06 - Milwaukee, WI
9/25/11 - Vancouver, BC
11/4/12 - (Eddie Vedder) Phoenix, AZ
11/1/13 - New Orleans, LA
11/19/13 - Phoenix, AZ
11/21/13 - San Diego, CA
10/12/14 - Austin, TX
10/22/14 - Denver, CO
8/22/16 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley 2) 5/9/22 - Glendale, AZ 5/18/24 - Las Vegas, NV
Just saw a 98 Melbourne poster with the knife-wielding scuba guy on it. One of my faves from that tour. Only $52 right now... Something fishy about it though...
The example you mentioned up on eBay is a fake.
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
Just saw a 98 Melbourne poster with the knife-wielding scuba guy on it. One of my faves from that tour. Only $52 right now... Something fishy about it though...
The example you mentioned up on eBay is a fake.
How can you tell?
I just bought a Brisbane 1998 for $350, that i'm positive is legit, and someone from here, not the seller, vouched for them.
-Chris
Male, 34
I'm on Facebook - facebook.com/christopher.leesye1
1998 Brisbane 2
2003 Brisbane 1
2006 LA 1 & 2
2008 LA 2, San Diego 1 (EV)
2009 LA 1, 2, 3 & 4, San Diego
2011 St. Louis (EV)
2012 Tulsa 1 & 2 (EV)
2013 Chicago, Dallas & OKC
The Raleigh 98 poster, with the 3 monkeys on the bike, was bootlegged heavily. I believe you can tell on those by looking at the color of the spokes on the front wheel. The fakes had a bluish color I think.
And so you see, I have come to doubt All that I once held as true I stand alone without beliefs The only truth I know is you.
Just saw a 98 Melbourne poster with the knife-wielding scuba guy on it. One of my faves from that tour. Only $52 right now... Something fishy about it though...
The example you mentioned up on eBay is a fake.
How can you tell?
I just bought a Brisbane 1998 for $350, that i'm positive is legit, and someone from here, not the seller, vouched for them.
Short answer: visit Expressobeans and search for the '98 Melbourne. Bring up the stored images of the poster and scroll through to the image of 2 examples of the '98 Melbourne poster side by side, one of them real and the other fake and you can compare the subtle differences (color variations being the obvious issue).
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
The Melbourne poster I can't vouche for because I don't know the seller, but the poster looks legit. I saw the two different Melbourne's on EB but that doesn't mean one is a fake and the other is legit. During the print run process, colors could (and many times do) vary...some brighter, darker, etc. Subtle differences like those aren't tell tale signs of being fakes. Colors being added in or taken out...well, that's another story.
"If you want a friend, feed any animal." - JA
"Don't let it get you down, you know, still give your love, just give it away...I love singin' that part." - EV
The Melbourne poster I can't vouche for because I don't know the seller, but the poster looks legit. I saw the two different Melbourne's on EB but that doesn't mean one is a fake and the other is legit. During the print run process, colors could (and many times do) vary...some brighter, darker, etc. Subtle differences like those aren't tell tale signs of being fakes. Colors being added in or taken out...well, that's another story.
Interesting...
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-Chris
Male, 34
I'm on Facebook - facebook.com/christopher.leesye1
1998 Brisbane 2
2003 Brisbane 1
2006 LA 1 & 2
2008 LA 2, San Diego 1 (EV)
2009 LA 1, 2, 3 & 4, San Diego
2011 St. Louis (EV)
2012 Tulsa 1 & 2 (EV)
2013 Chicago, Dallas & OKC
Short answer: visit Expressobeans and search for the '98 Melbourne. Bring up the stored images of the poster and scroll through to the image of 2 examples of the '98 Melbourne poster side by side, one of them real and the other fake and you can compare the subtle differences (color variations being the obvious issue).
I did this exact thing earlier, before you mentioned it, and didn't see anything other than it being a possible variant?
-Chris
Male, 34
I'm on Facebook - facebook.com/christopher.leesye1
1998 Brisbane 2
2003 Brisbane 1
2006 LA 1 & 2
2008 LA 2, San Diego 1 (EV)
2009 LA 1, 2, 3 & 4, San Diego
2011 St. Louis (EV)
2012 Tulsa 1 & 2 (EV)
2013 Chicago, Dallas & OKC
The Raleigh 98 poster, with the 3 monkeys on the bike, was bootlegged heavily. I believe you can tell on those by looking at the color of the spokes on the front wheel. The fakes had a bluish color I think.
More importantly, the fakes didn't have the Ames Bros copyright logo in black ink in the lower left corner....which makes it more a reprint than a fake to someone who knows what they are looking at. (not an attack on you, just a generalization of the unknowning buyer)
"If you want a friend, feed any animal." - JA
"Don't let it get you down, you know, still give your love, just give it away...I love singin' that part." - EV
Help please......... I think the Melbourne 98 poster you are talking about is the one I bought.
Have there been previous fakes of this poster??
I don't know if the seller (from Washington) is a member here or not but he seemed legit, however I still have got it yet.
He said he sent it on the 2nd of December, US to AUS, still not here 22 Dec although it could be down to the Xmas rush.
Comments..
EDIT - just looked on EB - my sale is marked 'counterfeit'.. so I haven't even received my 'fake' poster. This was my f@#@#n Xmas present, merry freakin xmas
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Oh, I could be new... you underestimate me
Melbourne - 16/3/95, 5/3/98, 18/2/03, 20/2/03, 13/11/06, 16/11/06, 20/11/09, EV 24/3/11 EV 25/3/11, 24/1/14, ....
Help please......... I think the Melbourne 98 poster you are talking about is the one I bought.
Have there been previous fakes of this poster??
I don't know if the seller (from Washington) is a member here or not but he seemed legit, however I still have got it yet.
He said he sent it on the 2nd of December, US to AUS, still not here 22 Dec although it could be down to the Xmas rush.
Comments..
EDIT - just looked on EB - my sale is marked 'counterfeit'.. so I haven't even received my 'fake' poster. This was my f@#@#n Xmas present, merry freakin xmas
No known instances of this poster I am aware of in the last eight years or more...
I've responded with a detailed reply to your thread on EB, but feel free to pm me here if you need any further help. Good luck and try not to worry for now, it may yet all be okay. Grab a beer, wait and see
The best thing to do to prevent ending up with fakes is to chase down the signed & numbered copies. They are usually a bit more expensive, but there are certainly less of those around that are fake. The unsigned copies are the ones that are easy to fake. The signature also provides a way to figure out if it is fake or not, especially if it is a good fake.
I bought a hartfort 98 once that was fake. Luckily I got my money back.
Poster has arrived finally. Looks Ok but does not have the large bottom border, but I suppose different runs could be cut differently. Will try and upload some photos soon.
Does anyone have some good quality pics I could compare to?
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Oh, I could be new... you underestimate me
Melbourne - 16/3/95, 5/3/98, 18/2/03, 20/2/03, 13/11/06, 16/11/06, 20/11/09, EV 24/3/11 EV 25/3/11, 24/1/14, ....
I am looking for a 2000 San Bernadino which is the woman holding a skateboard, part of the Cali trio. I haven't seen it on feebay. Any help is apprecicated.
Comments
The guy had PJ Portugal/Spain 96 Ames poster that he listed as a mint,
the only problem was that the poster was painted over and he cut the poster and change his shape :shock: ....
other than that it was mint
I wish I had a link to show it
LIFE WASTED, BLOOD on the PORCH, LAST KISS is a WISHLIST DEEP DOWN NOTHING AS IT SEEMS WHY GO COME BACK ALIVE SPIN THE BLACK CIRCLE and SMILE.
I did see that auction, and actually contacted the seller to confirm he was the one who indeed cut out the image field from the white border and painted over it because he "didn't like the colors." Informed him it was too bad, as an unaltered example of the poster would fetch ~ $500.
On another note, in line with what's been discussed about fakes, I recall a seller by the name of Piotr (spelling?) from Eastern Europe (Poland perhaps?) who was selling fake '96 Istanbul posters on eBay a few years back. When I called him out on it he began restricting which countries his auctions would be displayed for so as not to be noticed. His fake '96 Istanbul was easily identifiable, with the digits "19" in the image field painted brown inside the numbers when in fact those digits should not have any paint inside of them. There was also a fake '98 Raleigh floating around...I remember the tell-tale sign being the yellow color missing from the flower inside the image field.
IMO it's always worth dealing with respected and reputable sellers/traders/collectors and paying top dollar for a poster you're after (unless, of course, you find yourself a good deal you shouldn't/wouldn't walk away from). It's not worth it trying to save a few dollars only to end up with a fake that would take the wind out of your sails every time you admired it. At least that's how I feel about the matter.
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
6/29/06 - Milwaukee, WI
9/25/11 - Vancouver, BC
11/4/12 - (Eddie Vedder) Phoenix, AZ
11/1/13 - New Orleans, LA
11/19/13 - Phoenix, AZ
11/21/13 - San Diego, CA
10/12/14 - Austin, TX
10/22/14 - Denver, CO
8/22/16 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley 2)
5/9/22 - Glendale, AZ
5/18/24 - Las Vegas, NV
The example you mentioned up on eBay is a fake.
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
How can you tell?
I just bought a Brisbane 1998 for $350, that i'm positive is legit, and someone from here, not the seller, vouched for them.
Male, 34
I'm on Facebook - facebook.com/christopher.leesye1
1998 Brisbane 2
2003 Brisbane 1
2006 LA 1 & 2
2008 LA 2, San Diego 1 (EV)
2009 LA 1, 2, 3 & 4, San Diego
2011 St. Louis (EV)
2012 Tulsa 1 & 2 (EV)
2013 Chicago, Dallas & OKC
All that I once held as true
I stand alone without beliefs
The only truth I know is you.
Short answer: visit Expressobeans and search for the '98 Melbourne. Bring up the stored images of the poster and scroll through to the image of 2 examples of the '98 Melbourne poster side by side, one of them real and the other fake and you can compare the subtle differences (color variations being the obvious issue).
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
"Don't let it get you down, you know, still give your love, just give it away...I love singin' that part." - EV
Interesting...
Male, 34
I'm on Facebook - facebook.com/christopher.leesye1
1998 Brisbane 2
2003 Brisbane 1
2006 LA 1 & 2
2008 LA 2, San Diego 1 (EV)
2009 LA 1, 2, 3 & 4, San Diego
2011 St. Louis (EV)
2012 Tulsa 1 & 2 (EV)
2013 Chicago, Dallas & OKC
I did this exact thing earlier, before you mentioned it, and didn't see anything other than it being a possible variant?
Male, 34
I'm on Facebook - facebook.com/christopher.leesye1
1998 Brisbane 2
2003 Brisbane 1
2006 LA 1 & 2
2008 LA 2, San Diego 1 (EV)
2009 LA 1, 2, 3 & 4, San Diego
2011 St. Louis (EV)
2012 Tulsa 1 & 2 (EV)
2013 Chicago, Dallas & OKC
More importantly, the fakes didn't have the Ames Bros copyright logo in black ink in the lower left corner....which makes it more a reprint than a fake to someone who knows what they are looking at. (not an attack on you, just a generalization of the unknowning buyer)
"Don't let it get you down, you know, still give your love, just give it away...I love singin' that part." - EV
Have there been previous fakes of this poster??
I don't know if the seller (from Washington) is a member here or not but he seemed legit, however I still have got it yet.
He said he sent it on the 2nd of December, US to AUS, still not here 22 Dec although it could be down to the Xmas rush.
Comments..
EDIT - just looked on EB - my sale is marked 'counterfeit'.. so I haven't even received my 'fake' poster. This was my f@#@#n Xmas present, merry freakin xmas
Oh, I could be new... you underestimate me
Melbourne - 16/3/95, 5/3/98, 18/2/03, 20/2/03, 13/11/06, 16/11/06, 20/11/09, EV 24/3/11 EV 25/3/11, 24/1/14, ....
No known instances of this poster I am aware of in the last eight years or more...
I've responded with a detailed reply to your thread on EB, but feel free to pm me here if you need any further help. Good luck and try not to worry for now, it may yet all be okay. Grab a beer, wait and see
I bought a hartfort 98 once that was fake. Luckily I got my money back.
Does anyone have some good quality pics I could compare to?
Oh, I could be new... you underestimate me
Melbourne - 16/3/95, 5/3/98, 18/2/03, 20/2/03, 13/11/06, 16/11/06, 20/11/09, EV 24/3/11 EV 25/3/11, 24/1/14, ....
Oh, I could be new... you underestimate me
Melbourne - 16/3/95, 5/3/98, 18/2/03, 20/2/03, 13/11/06, 16/11/06, 20/11/09, EV 24/3/11 EV 25/3/11, 24/1/14, ....
Oh, I could be new... you underestimate me
Melbourne - 16/3/95, 5/3/98, 18/2/03, 20/2/03, 13/11/06, 16/11/06, 20/11/09, EV 24/3/11 EV 25/3/11, 24/1/14, ....
Oh, I could be new... you underestimate me
Melbourne - 16/3/95, 5/3/98, 18/2/03, 20/2/03, 13/11/06, 16/11/06, 20/11/09, EV 24/3/11 EV 25/3/11, 24/1/14, ....
Oh, I could be new... you underestimate me
Melbourne - 16/3/95, 5/3/98, 18/2/03, 20/2/03, 13/11/06, 16/11/06, 20/11/09, EV 24/3/11 EV 25/3/11, 24/1/14, ....
Cheers Matt.
Oh, I could be new... you underestimate me
Melbourne - 16/3/95, 5/3/98, 18/2/03, 20/2/03, 13/11/06, 16/11/06, 20/11/09, EV 24/3/11 EV 25/3/11, 24/1/14, ....