Why Eddie Vedder and Dave Matthews should collaborate.

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Hey PT107092, don't let this discourage you from posting here again!

    +1

    Might be kinda cool to hear what they came up with, too.
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  • I was hoping to maybe see eddie show up in atlantic city this summer, ed was in philly while dave was in ac. Many posters on this thread bang on daves fans, and rightly so, a lot of angry, toughguy, bandwaggon fans. People here just dont like dmb, thats fine, they are a clear #2 favorite in my book.
    A collaboration would be interesting. Not gunn give my left nut to hear it, but im sure id like it if they did.
  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    Where as the PJ audience is a respectable group, the DMB fans (at least those in the lawn, the only way I've seen him) seem to be more of a frat crowd that's there to take advantage of drunk girls and free beer. Not only do I refuse to get drunk at concerts, I think it says volumes about the type of people come out to the shows.

    PJ shows are FULL of frat boy and meatheads. been to plenty of shows where you could have mistaken the crowd for a DMB crowd. just saying...
  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775

    So I should go see DMB because the main get of the show gets wasted and babbles into the mic with some wacky voice...exciting....not

    again, not defending DMB, but you are wearing your PJ blinders big time in this thread.

    drunk, rambling into the mic? sounds like the eddie vedder we have grown to love over the years ;)
  • Bant
    Bant Millinowhere, ME Posts: 506
    So I should go see DMB because the main get of the show gets wasted and babbles into the mic with some wacky voice...exciting....not


    You must really hate Pearl Jam shows then. :?
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  • YLed2
    YLed2 Posts: 5,534
    Wow, sorry man, hate to say it, but I couldn't think of a worse collaboration. Not just because I can't stand DMB, but Ed is above and beyond him on a musical level and are two totally different styles IMO.

    I like a few DMB songs, but this band will always be thought by me of being a "cult" band for kids in college.

    Just my opinion. :)
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  • Bird889
    Bird889 Posts: 423
    sorry, its not that I don't like Dave's music, but their styles are so different I can't imagine it working.

    I would like to see any of the following though, something more than singing back up or jumping on stage for a song.

    Ed and Michael Stipe. I think these two really like and respect each other
    Ed and Pete Townshend
    Ed and Beck (caught them on the one song at BS this year)
    Ed and John Doe
    Ed and Patti Smith

    I am sure there are tons more that would be cool. I've seen DMB numerous times since my wife like them (and lows me to go to 40+ PJ shows) and we live in the home of the Dave. I do like it when he plays with just Tim. TR is one bad ass guitar player.
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  • Bant
    Bant Millinowhere, ME Posts: 506
    YLed2 wrote:
    I like a few DMB songs, but this band will always be thought by me of being a "cult" band for kids in college.

    I'm not a huge DMB fan or anything. I don't hate them, but I also never listen to them. That said, I just needed to point out how ridiculous your "cult" statement is.

    You do realize PJ has one of the biggest cult followings on the planet, and you seem to be a part of it. :)
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  • First post has proven to be an adversarial one- DMB draws a lot of hate from people on this board. As much enjoyment that can be drawn from music and as much bad music as there is out there... a music fan should be able to distinguish the solid qualities DMB offers (respect is warranted even if you haven't acquired the taste).

    IMO, they are excellent. Their crowds do differ somewhat from PJ crowds, but to say that DMB fans are mostly goofballs while PJ fans are true connoisseurs of music is either pompous or narrow-minded to say the least. Trust me when I say I have been irritated by 'huge PJ fans' as many times as DMB fans.

    I'm sure Eddie and Dave have respect for each other.
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,245
    edited December 2011
    Oh and another reason my one friend that I talked about above says I should "try and see every Dave show that comes around here" is because "Dave gets wasted on stage and you never know what he'll say or do.."

    So I should go see DMB because the main get of the show gets wasted and babbles into the mic with some wacky voice...exciting....not

    "Dave gets wasted on stage and you never know what he'll say or do.."

    In a way...that kinda describes Ed, only he drinks classy wine (about $50 per bottle, at a place near my house.) Note that I don't know what Dave drinks. For all I know, it's shitty beer or expensive champagne. :lol:

    I do think that Glorified G and Elderly Woman sort of "fit" Dave's style of music, but other than that, they're worlds apart.
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  • rival. wrote:
    drunk, rambling into the mic? sounds like the eddie vedder we have grown to love over the years ;)

    LOL!
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  • PT107092
    PT107092 Posts: 9
    edited December 2011
    Wow first let me say thanks for all the responses. I completely understand the many opinions posted so far. As far as not liking Dave, I truly appreciate aesthetic differences and questions of taste are well always going to be debated (My roommate in college used to say Dave sounded like a muppet and Eddie was indecipherable). I would say we agree to disagree. I particularly appreciate the views on how the two singers sounds are so different and think that would make for part of the dynamic. Some of the greatest compilations have come from unlikely pairings.

    I do think it is interesting to see how similar some (certainly not all) of their influences are shared. (Beatles, Dylan, Neil, Cash, Marley) I was in the mud at ACL to see both bands (on separate nights) and was thinking how cool it would be to hear them together. I was recently watching PJ20 and Dave in Europe and thinking about how their sounds had evolved so much over the years from my first experiences with them. I used to teach classes called One Sweet World:The politics and poetry of Dave Matthews, and Act UP! The Power of Protest Performance with Pearl Jam and I realized how much the artists had in common in the themes of their lyrics and in the political views they held. They are the Jungian archetypes of my generation the dark angst ridden poet who captures the seething undercurrent of rage of disgruntled middle class Americans and the happy live life in the moment troubador who sings about our desire to revel and party like there is no tomorrow. But over time there music has come closer after the murder of Dave's sister and his bout with depression his music took on deeply dark overtones of Bartender and Big Eyed Fish and with Eddie's age came the mellow beauty of such songs as Just Breathe and Society.

    Many of you have mentioned their concert experience, which is of course the purest form of their music. I don't consider myself a concert veteran (with only 11 PJ shows and 23 DMB/D&T/Dave solo shows) compared to the many of you who have posted, but I think seeing their shows is the closest thing to a religious experience in my life. I started out as a drunken college student at their shows but have since gone on to take my students to them and sit in the fan club seats (away from the drunks on the lawn :lol:) and now as the father of two boys (4 yrs old, and 9 months old) I look forward to being able to take them as well. I believe the point I was trying to make that it seems hard to find two performers who have lasted and still have a broad appeal to fans both young and veteran. I look forward to more of your posts.
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    Regrets:
    October 4, 1991 my buddy Mike "hey you want to go check out this new band Nirvana I heard about on SubPop at Cat's Cradle tonight?" My response, nah I got to work...
    October 14, 1991 my buddy Mike "hey you really missed a cool show the other day, want to check out this other new band Pearl Jam at the Cradle tonight? Me, nah I got a date...
    October 1, 1992 Sigma Phi Epsilon VT- Dave Matthews Band I don't really want to go to some show at a frat house...
    May 9, 1994 My buddy Scott, "hey you want to go see Pink Floyd with me tomorrow night at Carter Finley, I got an extra ticket?" Me Nah I got an exam tomorrow night, I can always see them next time...

    Well so much for lost moments. You win some, you lose some.
  • Tboz51
    Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
    Can your next reply have paragraphs please?

    It is tough to read.

    I'd like to see all your thoughts.
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Tboz51 wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    DMB concerts are great if you want to hang out with a bunch of high school girls and male cheerleaders.

    I got spirit, yes I do. I got got spirit and apparently you don't too?

    No pyramid photo opt with you on top sir!

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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    rival. wrote:
    PJ shows are FULL of frat boy and meatheads. been to plenty of shows where you could have mistaken the crowd for a DMB crowd. just saying...

    Yep
    Ed is above and beyond him on a musical levelIMO.

    Not even close. Dave is about 5x the guitar player that Ed is. Ed is mostly open chords and beginner level finger picking.
  • Tboz51
    Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
    DS1119 wrote:
    Tboz51 wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    DMB concerts are great if you want to hang out with a bunch of high school girls and male cheerleaders.

    I got spirit, yes I do. I got got spirit and apparently you don't too?

    No pyramid photo opt with you on top sir!

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    You cheertator!
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  • Tboz51 wrote:
    Can your next reply have paragraphs please?

    It is tough to read.

    I'd like to see all your thoughts.

    You got it my apologies was feeding my baby and just freetyping.
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    Regrets:
    October 4, 1991 my buddy Mike "hey you want to go check out this new band Nirvana I heard about on SubPop at Cat's Cradle tonight?" My response, nah I got to work...
    October 14, 1991 my buddy Mike "hey you really missed a cool show the other day, want to check out this other new band Pearl Jam at the Cradle tonight? Me, nah I got a date...
    October 1, 1992 Sigma Phi Epsilon VT- Dave Matthews Band I don't really want to go to some show at a frat house...
    May 9, 1994 My buddy Scott, "hey you want to go see Pink Floyd with me tomorrow night at Carter Finley, I got an extra ticket?" Me Nah I got an exam tomorrow night, I can always see them next time...

    Well so much for lost moments. You win some, you lose some.
  • InHiding19 wrote:
    Your telling me Phish has done less than Dave. What about selling 80,000 ticekts to festivals with only them on the bill. Last I checked Dave's fest had a full bill of other bands. Plus Dave sucks. Ed wouldn't be caught dead with him.

    Ticket sales are not for me the full measure of a band's artistry, and I certainly would not want to use this forum as a DMB apologia but...
    http://www.pollstar.com/blogs/news/arch ... 02459.aspx

    I love Phish as well and truly enjoyed watching Trey and Dave together.
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    As far as Dave sucking I can't argue with your opinion, I just have to differ.

    As far as Ed not being caught dead with him see-
    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... m=1&itbs=1
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    Regrets:
    October 4, 1991 my buddy Mike "hey you want to go check out this new band Nirvana I heard about on SubPop at Cat's Cradle tonight?" My response, nah I got to work...
    October 14, 1991 my buddy Mike "hey you really missed a cool show the other day, want to check out this other new band Pearl Jam at the Cradle tonight? Me, nah I got a date...
    October 1, 1992 Sigma Phi Epsilon VT- Dave Matthews Band I don't really want to go to some show at a frat house...
    May 9, 1994 My buddy Scott, "hey you want to go see Pink Floyd with me tomorrow night at Carter Finley, I got an extra ticket?" Me Nah I got an exam tomorrow night, I can always see them next time...

    Well so much for lost moments. You win some, you lose some.
  • NHiding
    NHiding Posts: 1,908
    How has this thread not been locked yet? :mrgreen::mrgreen:
  • Kanye East wrote:
    Thats how you wanted to make your 1st post?

    Kanye it's funny you mention that. I have been a fan club member for a while now and a fan even longer and I just never thought to post even while teaching my classes on the bands and going to shows. Call it a sad oversight. Lately I have become something of a political oped writer and thought, I should probably post on my favorite music sites and share with my fellow fans and PJ family. If anyone wishes to read some of my opeds try http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/commentary/wb/302647
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    Regrets:
    October 4, 1991 my buddy Mike "hey you want to go check out this new band Nirvana I heard about on SubPop at Cat's Cradle tonight?" My response, nah I got to work...
    October 14, 1991 my buddy Mike "hey you really missed a cool show the other day, want to check out this other new band Pearl Jam at the Cradle tonight? Me, nah I got a date...
    October 1, 1992 Sigma Phi Epsilon VT- Dave Matthews Band I don't really want to go to some show at a frat house...
    May 9, 1994 My buddy Scott, "hey you want to go see Pink Floyd with me tomorrow night at Carter Finley, I got an extra ticket?" Me Nah I got an exam tomorrow night, I can always see them next time...

    Well so much for lost moments. You win some, you lose some.