Lost Dogs - Imagine this as a single regular album release

Paul Andrews
Paul Andrews Posts: 2,489
edited December 2011 in The Porch
OK, time to get back to talking about Pearl Jam and music don't ya think! 8-)

Of all the albums I find myself listening to Lost Dogs most. Maybe it is partly because I never hear any of these songs anywhere else but most likely because it is such a solid record. I admit i skip the odd song but it is a great listen - so good when you score one of these songs live. So far I've clocked up 10 of them. Hope to get 'Undone' some day. We scored 'You' in Perth in 2006 was awesome - they were on fire that night - RVM on LO10L proves that.

It got me thinking, what if they'd put this out as a regular single album release. Drop the 'b-sides and rarities' label (that for most bands just means: the shit that wasn't good enough to go on an album) and marketed it as a regular release.

How would this go if it was released today:

Side 1

Sad
Down
Alone
Education
You
Black, Red, Yellow

Side 2

Brother
Undone
Hold On
Don't Gimme No Lip
Dead Man
Hard To Imagine

Would that album be held in the same regard as the rest, what rank would you give it - better than what but not as good as?
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  • Kloddz
    Kloddz Posts: 2,573
    Interesting concept - but you forgot to include Fatal! :x
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  • Paul Andrews
    Paul Andrews Posts: 2,489
    Kloddz wrote:
    Interesting concept - but you forgot to include Fatal! :x

    You know I agonized over 'Fatal" and "Strangest Tribe" but given the mellow end to side b , it, along with a couple of others didn't make the cut.

    Also I thought it could survive as a rarity and still get love. Maybe they were left for the next album. If 'Yellow Ledbetter' has scored official lyrics, that's be on there too.

    To tell you the truth, that's how "Don't Gimme No Lip" Survived the cut - I needed an up tempo song.
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  • SatansFuton
    SatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    It would be OK. But I can see why some of those songs are B-Side, good B-Sides, but B-Sides all the same. Of course that's just opinion. "You" (or U depending on what album you're looking at) is B-Side all the way to me. I used to not like it at all until I heard it at a Dallas show and it grew on me, but I still can't imagine it on an album. I can't imagine "Down" as anything other than a B-Side either.

    Having said that there are plenty of songs that did make albums that I don't understand either, so if this had been an album I probably wouldn't have thought twice about it.

    As for whether or not this would be held in the same regard, depends on who you're talking about. Some of the actual studio albums aren't held in too high regard by some. Some people might hold it in the same regard as Riot Act or Backspacer, but those people might be the same ones that use those albums as coasters.
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  • Paul Andrews
    Paul Andrews Posts: 2,489
    Yeah "U/You" grew on me when I saw it live in 2006, along with certain album tracks. I'm not sure why, but "Undone" has a really 'cool summer, driving to the beach with boards in the back' vibe about it. I guess where I live, the lyrics also can be bent around to give it a hometown feel like that.
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  • drummerboy_73
    drummerboy_73 Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,011
    If that were the tracklisting released as a single CD, I wouldn't have bought it.

    7 out of those 12 had already been released as B-sides or on other compilations. I would have felt that only getting 5 new songs was a real cash grab more than anything else. I like it the way it is...only song I never really listen to is Sweet Lew.
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  • SatansFuton
    SatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    drummerboy_73 wrote:
    If that were the tracklisting released as a single CD, I wouldn't have bought it.

    7 out of those 12 had already been released as B-sides or on other compilations. I would have felt that only getting 5 new songs was a real cash grab more than anything else. I like it the way it is...only song I never really listen to is Sweet Lew.

    I think we're supposed to be pretending these songs were released for the first time on this hypothetical album.
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  • Paul Andrews
    Paul Andrews Posts: 2,489
    SatansFuton wrote:
    drummerboy_73 wrote:
    If that were the tracklisting released as a single CD, I wouldn't have bought it.

    7 out of those 12 had already been released as B-sides or on other compilations. I would have felt that only getting 5 new songs was a real cash grab more than anything else. I like it the way it is...only song I never really listen to is Sweet Lew.

    I think we're supposed to be pretending these songs were released for the first time on this hypothetical album.

    Thanks Satan, you beat me to it :)
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  • Lament
    Lament Posts: 294
    Paul Andrews wrote:
    OK, time to get back to talking about Pearl Jam and music don't ya think! 8-)

    Of all the albums I find myself listening to Lost Dogs most. Maybe it is partly because I never hear any of these songs anywhere else but most likely because it is such a solid record. I admit i skip the odd song but it is a great listen - so good when you score one of these songs live. So far I've clocked up 10 of them. Hope to get 'Undone' some day. We scored 'You' in Perth in 2006 was awesome - they were on fire that night - RVM on LO10L proves that.

    It got me thinking, what if they'd put this out as a regular single album release. Drop the 'b-sides and rarities' label (that for most bands just means: the shit that wasn't good enough to go on an album) and marketed it as a regular release.

    How would this go if it was released today:

    Side 1

    Sad
    Down
    Alone
    Education
    You
    Black, Red, Yellow

    Side 2

    Brother
    Undone
    Hold On
    Don't Gimme No Lip
    Dead Man
    Hard To Imagine

    Would that album be held in the same regard as the rest, what rank would you give it - better than what but not as good as?

    I can't speak for everyone, but if that were the tracklisting for a new Pearl Jam album, and those were all songs we'd never heard before, I'd probably say that it seemed to lack any real focus, and that the middle (U/Black, Red, and Yellow, and Brother) was my least favorite stretch of songs on any Pearl Jam album. It'd probably be my second to least favorite album (ahead of only Backspacer). While some of the songs from different eras mentioned above could conceivably exist on the same album (specifically the Binaural and Riot Act outtakes), I couldn't see most of them coexisting.
  • veddertown
    veddertown Scotland Posts: 5,260
    Mine would probably read:

    Side A.
    Hard To Imagine
    All Night
    Sad
    In The Moonlight
    Hold On
    Other Side

    Side B.
    Wash
    Brother
    Alone
    Education
    Fatal
    Strangest Tribe

    I'd have Still Here and Footsteps as hidden tracks on the CD. UK version of course! ;)
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