What exactly is garden about?

Hugh Freaking Dillon · December 2011

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

This one has a bit more "crunch" in it, even.

bloody awesome.

anyone ever notice that Ed seems to introduce this song as "Garden of Stone". I never noticed that until the movie, but then the first vid you posted he intro'd it the same way. Did they just shorten it to look pretty on the back of Ten?

justam · December 2011

I thought a garden of stone was a cemetery too. I've thought that the character's hands are bound either because the person isn't fighting back or because the person is a "prisoner" to their own attachment to the other.

Either way, it seems like the relationship or the love is dying because of the graveyard setting.

DriftingByTheStorm · December 2011

justam wrote:

I thought a garden of stone was a cemetery too. I've thought that the character's hands are bound either because the person isn't fighting back or because the person is a "prisoner" to their own attachment to the other.

Either way, it seems like the relationship or the love is dying because of the graveyard setting.

Look at what this poster posted:

kellanazzie wrote:

Look at this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL2cyZ9pEbU

no need to wonder any more.
lol.

It only took us 20 years to decipher Eddie's "hidden" meaning on this one.

awesomerooster · December 2011

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

It only took us 20 years to decipher Eddie's "hidden" meaning on this one.

WE ARE ONTO YOU, EDWARD. :twisted:

AzWicker · December 2011

Garden is raging against technology

javis el errante · December 2011

huh, who would've thought? I thought it was about Stone's backyard...

timbo1972 · December 2011

It doesn't matter. It is what you want it to be about. That is art. Inspiration giving life to interpretation.

Gremmie03 · December 2011

I dont know exactly what it means

but when i used to listen to this album on my walkman out in the park and this song would come on, ohhh jeez

i hope they play this at my next show whenever that is!!

Better Dan · December 2011

You mean it isn't about Stone Gossard's Garden?

unforgiven · December 2011

kellanazzie wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

as for the meaning,i think has to do with death,and the way you choose or not to live your life,,even a death you didnt choose,like die going to the war...
that .I will walk..my hands bound..with my face blood..with my shadow flag bring in mind a soldier

Look at this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL2cyZ9pEbU

One of my all time favorite songs & the one I would ask about first if I ever had the chance...I always had the relationship equation in my head ...the nuances in this song are mesmerizing to me. Now, after watching this, I have a whole new meaning to decipher....

I just watched that video for the 1st time, whats funny is you can hear my wife scream when he intros the song.

AzWicker · December 2011

Ed has a garden with a bunch of petrified Stone clones in it.

Spags · December 2011

I always took the song to be from the point of view of a Native American Indian (or whatever the correct term is these days) talking about the capture/genocide of his people and the rape of the land they lived on. For me its about oppression and exploitation, a cheery little number then. Ten is such a heavy album, love it.

HeavyHands · December 2011

awesomerooster wrote:

Just my interpretation...

Garden of Stone:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlington_ ... l_Cemetery

There's a lot of references to war, but IMO the particular one being sung about was:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Storm#Air_campaign

She don't wander in...don't wander in here, she...
She don't wander in here...don't wander in here...
'She' may be a reference to Lady Justice or Lady Liberty

The direction of the eye, so misleading
The defection of the soul, nauseously quick
The US's role, flip-flopping between the desire to cultivate ties with Iraq (the enemy) and eradicate terrorism
I don't question, our existence
I just question, our modern needs
need for oil

She don't wander in...don't wander in here, she...
She don't wander in here...

I will walk...with my hands bound obligation to country
I will walk...with my face blood violence and maybe a feeling of shame for having a 'part' in perpetuating it
I will walk...with my shadow flag Big Brother; unnamed threat, i.e. terrorism
Into your garden, garden of stone...yeah...

After all is done, and we're still alone one dies alone, regardless of one's service and sacrifice for country
I won't be taken, yet I'll go...with my hands bound deployment in a war that may not be justified
I will walk...with my face blood
I will walk...with my shadow flag Big Brother; unnamed threat, i.e. terrorism
Into your garden, garden of stone Arlington Cemetery

I don't show...I don't share... military secrecy
I don't need, yeah...What you have to give... benefits of being a citizen of a country and what is asked for in return

Oooh, I will walk...with my hands bound
I will walk...with my face blood
I will walk...with my shadow flag
Into your garden, garden...oh...

I will walk with my hands bound
I will walk into your garden, garden of stone...

I don't know...I don't care...
I don't need you for me to live...yeah, yeah, yeah, oh... defiance
Uh huh huh... (8x)

I definitely like this breakdown of the song. I have always thought that a garden of stone was a cemetery. I would point out, though, that the terrorism references you inserted were not on the minds of Americans in 1990/1991. At that time, even just 21 years after the hostages of the US embassy in Tehran, Iran were freed, the concept of terrorism was very foreign to Americans and it was rarely, if ever, a news topic. That aside, I think it's a spot on interpretation of the song.

-Buru- · December 2011

justam wrote:

I thought a garden of stone was a cemetery too. I've thought that the character's hands are bound either because the person isn't fighting back or because the person is a "prisoner" to their own attachment to the other.

Either way, it seems like the relationship or the love is dying because of the graveyard setting.

This is how I interpreted Garden too, kind of like a relationship you can't break free from although it has gone bad (the direction of the eye so misleading, the defection of the soul), with the woman being unreachable (akin to a garden of stone), and the man following, face blood, hands bound (in spite of everything).

I guess I read it as part personal, part social critique (questioning modern needs)

Although it seems to be related to War (given what others have posted and Eddie mentioning when the song was written)

awesomerooster · December 2011

HeavyHands wrote:

I definitely like this breakdown of the song. I have always thought that a garden of stone was a cemetery. I would point out, though, that the terrorism references you inserted were not on the minds of Americans in 1990/1991. At that time, even just 21 years after the hostages of the US embassy in Tehran, Iran were freed, the concept of terrorism was very foreign to Americans and it was rarely, if ever, a news topic. That aside, I think it's a spot on interpretation of the song.

Sorry about that. I'm not American and was only 8 or 9 when Desert Storm was happening. I just have a vague recollection of watching the news coverage during that time. :? My country has been dealing with Islamic secessionists and insurgents since the 70's, before I was born, so any news on terrorism or Middle Eastern conflict is closely followed.

RideRick · December 2011

justam wrote:

I thought a garden of stone was a cemetery too. I've thought that the character's hands are bound either because the person isn't fighting back or because the person is a "prisoner" to their own attachment to the other.

Either way, it seems like the relationship or the love is dying because of the graveyard setting.

That was sort of my interpretation too.
Seemed a lot of the Ten Album was actually about lost loved ones.

- Once (backstreetlover) - wild, young, estranged of human life
- Even Flow (Someday yet, he'll begin his life again, yeah) after being dumped
- Alive (Fatherhood) that one is easy to understand
- Why Go (About a girl put away) parents who care the wrong way, like in Daughter
- Black (Ultimate love) still guessin' it's about abortion
- Jeremy (a boy scorned) understanding pain
- Oceans (Hold tight the ring...) metaphore
- Porch (I know that i would not ever touch you) lost love, died possible
- Garden (You, for me to live) maybe also after an abortion.. the pain is familiar to me
- Deep (Christmas clean love) don't know wich member of pj had so much pain
- Release (Oh dear dad) cry out for attention
-State Of Love And Trust (help me from myself) must be pretty clear

Most songs they wrote/had in a week.
Ten was an impressive album which was about tormented love.
Love for a lost dad. Love for a lost friend. Love for a lost child. Love for a lost girl.

At least.. that is my opinion and feeling and why i love this album so much.
Can't believe it is all that deep about war etc.
Eddie Vedder was searching for love al of his youth.
And still is as an all encompassing trip member

What exactly is garden about?

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