UFO's Fact of Fiction ?
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 Won't be like which Sci-Fi movies? District 9? Battle: Los Angeles? Independence Day? War of the Worlds? Invasion of the Body Snatchers? Signs? Predator? The Thing? V?Cosmo wrote:If Aliens life forms come to Earth... it will be bad for the humans on Earth. It won't be like all of those Sc-Fi movies... it will be for us, like a less compassionate Cortez coming to the New World... from the Aztec point of view. The only difference being... fewer survivors and probably a lot of medical experiments on us.
 We do not want UFOs here.
 I can't think of many movies where they come to help! Your scenario is as much hollywood speculation as any other 
 Personally, the optimist in me wants to think that if a species is advanced enough to have developed methods of travel at greater than light speed (or to live long enough for a light-year journey), they'd have evolved past using violence as a means to an end.0
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 ...Drowned Out wrote:
 Won't be like which Sci-Fi movies? District 9? Battle: Los Angeles? Independence Day? War of the Worlds? Invasion of the Body Snatchers? Signs? Predator? The Thing? V?Cosmo wrote:If Aliens life forms come to Earth... it will be bad for the humans on Earth. It won't be like all of those Sc-Fi movies... it will be for us, like a less compassionate Cortez coming to the New World... from the Aztec point of view. The only difference being... fewer survivors and probably a lot of medical experiments on us.
 We do not want UFOs here.
 I can't think of many movies where they come to help! Your scenario is as much hollywood speculation as any other 
 Personally, the optimist in me wants to think that if a species is advanced enough to have developed methods of travel at greater than light speed (or to live long enough for a light-year journey), they'd have evolved past using violence as a means to an end.
 Most of the Hollywood invaders come ill-prepared... like the 'Signs' aliens that melt when contacted with water coming to a planet that is 3/4% water. Would humans want to settle planet that was 75% battery acid? And if we did... would we travel there naked?
 It would end up bad for us because we would be the primative life form... like the Aztecs were to the Spaniards... the Native Americans to the European Settlers.
 If they come in peace... we will kill them because, that is who we are and that is what we do.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
 Hail, Hail!!!0
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            OnTheEdge wrote:I'll share a story that me or my friend have never talk about. We were driving down the highway, 6:00 am. There is a bright light ahead of us. Looks like a large star. But it keeps getting bigger and bigger until finaly i say.....wtf is that. he says " i don't know. It gets directly in front of us and turns into 2 giant headlights. Probably 200 feet in the air. Very low and moving very slow. It wasn't flying, it was floating. We came to our off ramp, got to the end and stopped. We both stuck our heads out the window and looked straight up as it flew( floated ) directly over us. It was shaped round but had all kinds of notches and parts sticking out. No sound. Had lights around the edges. 20 feet in diameter. It got behind us. We pulled off the ramp to the left, stopped, and watched as it shot out into the sky. In a matter of 5 seconds it was out of sight. By all definition...we saw an unidentified flying object.
 True Story.
 My twin brother and two friends had a very similar thing happen to them. They are all honest intelligent people and they saw what could only be called a UFO.
 Nothing they had ever seen before, or could explain.0
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            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87PRVP4EQAo
 The jury is still out on the caller (being a fake or not) at the end, but the system shutting down during the call is interesting.0
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            Idris wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87PRVP4EQAo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87PRVP4EQAo
 The jury is still out on the caller (being a fake or not) at the end, but the system shutting down during the call is interesting.
 Whoa. That call to Art Bell that you're talking about is CREE-PEE, man.
 Reading all the illuminist\rosicrucian\masonic shit makes this extra creep-oid, because, and I know most people don't know or want to accept this ... but what the illuminati\masons ACTUALLY claim in their own writings to be doing is accessing different dimensions of consciousness with their mind.
 Different dimensions of consciousness, and DIFFERENT CONSCIOUS BEINGS FROM THOSE REALMS.
 ???
 Just go google "spiritual hierarchy" in conjunction with "illuminati" or "freemason" and you'll get tons of hits. Google "Great White Brotherhood" too.
 More than a few proponents of the New Age movement also propose various (some of them horribly bunk, others not so disprovable) theories of physical earth changes to come about as a result of spiritual evolution unfolding throughout the universe (or our portion thereof).
 Who knows.
 weird call though.If I was to smile and I held out my hand
 If I opened it now would you not understand?0
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            So, my buddy lives next to Argon National Lab in the Chicago 'burbs.
 Several of his neighbors reported hearing the weirdest noise in their life and seeing a disc-like thing hovering above the woods where the lab is located and then it just shot straight up into the sky. :?0
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            The US is spending trillions on war, nothing on infrastructure. this money is wasted, despite a 10-1 return on infrastructure spending. manufacturing has been outsourced, the middle class destroyed, wages stagnate for 40 years, while new and innovative weapons are produced. UFO's are gov't craft, and wasted money at that. WE as citizens see nothing from that spending.
 We've been given 50 years of war and we are still about to be replaced by china as the world's superpower.0
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 see, i agreed with everything you said, until this.Commy wrote:UFO's are gov't craft
 no proof.If I was to smile and I held out my hand
 If I opened it now would you not understand?0
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            Gob wrote:So, my buddy lives next to Argon National Lab in the Chicago 'burbs.
 Several of his neighbors reported hearing the weirdest noise in their life and seeing a disc-like thing hovering above the woods where the lab is located and then it just shot straight up into the sky. :?
 Michael: Oh you're gonna do one of your tricks.
 Gob: Illusions Michael. A trick is something a whore does for money (see's the children listening in)...or cocaine!0
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 proof? how about logic and common sense.DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
 see, i agreed with everything you said, until this.Commy wrote:UFO's are gov't craft
 no proof.
 proof is far from this debate given you can't prove aliens exist.0
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            Commy wrote:
 proof? how about logic and common sense.DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
 see, i agreed with everything you said, until this.Commy wrote:UFO's are gov't craft
 no proof.
 proof is far from this debate given you can't prove aliens exist.
 Whenever someone see's an Object that is flying and is Unidentified..it is a government craft.
 Then you go on about logic and common sense,0
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            “common sense is the most widely shared commodity in the world, for every man is convinced that he is well supplied with it.”
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 Did you watch the video above?Commy wrote:The US is spending trillions on war, nothing on infrastructure. this money is wasted, despite a 10-1 return on infrastructure spending. manufacturing has been outsourced, the middle class destroyed, wages stagnate for 40 years, while new and innovative weapons are produced. UFO's are gov't craft, and wasted money at that. WE as citizens see nothing from that spending.
 We've been given 50 years of war and we are still about to be replaced by china as the world's superpower.
 We can do that shit?Post edited by LikeAnOcean on0
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 give me facts then. clearly you disagree.catefrances wrote:“common sense is the most widely shared commodity in the world, for every man is convinced that he is well supplied with it.”
 ― rene descartes0
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 what seems more likely to you? a gov't that spends trillions on war has crafts that can do these maneuvers and is keeping them secret or that alien beings, travelling billions of miles are cruising the planet for what? another question for you.....what the fuck are these aliens doing here?Idris wrote:
 Whenever someone see's an Object that is flying and is Unidentified..it is a government craft.
 Then you go on about logic and common sense,0
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            Commy wrote:
 give me facts then. clearly you disagree.catefrances wrote:“common sense is the most widely shared commodity in the world, for every man is convinced that he is well supplied with it.”
 ― rene descartes
 disagree with what exactly? i do agree with descartes though.hear my name
 take a good look
 this could be the day
 hold my hand
 lie beside me
 i just need to say0
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 Apparently they are "interdimensional beings".. and the better question to ask is, what the fuck are we doing here.Commy wrote:
 what seems more likely to you? a gov't that spends trillions on war has crafts that can do these maneuvers and is keeping them secret or that alien beings, travelling billions of miles are cruising the planet for what? another question for you.....what the fuck are these aliens doing here?Idris wrote:
 Whenever someone see's an Object that is flying and is Unidentified..it is a government craft.
 Then you go on about logic and common sense, 0 0
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            Gob wrote:
 Apparently they are "interdimensional beings".. and the better question to ask is, what the fuck are we doing here.Commy wrote:
 what seems more likely to you? a gov't that spends trillions on war has crafts that can do these maneuvers and is keeping them secret or that alien beings, travelling billions of miles are cruising the planet for what? another question for you.....what the fuck are these aliens doing here?Idris wrote:
 Whenever someone see's an Object that is flying and is Unidentified..it is a government craft.
 Then you go on about logic and common sense, 
 we are waitng for the mothership to return...and then much like the mayans, we will return to our home planet.hear my name
 take a good look
 this could be the day
 hold my hand
 lie beside me
 i just need to say0
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 we are talking about UFO's, using common sense and logic, being most likely gov't craft. you, opposing the use of common sense with descartes quote, claim otherwise.catefrances wrote:Commy wrote:
 give me facts then. clearly you disagree.catefrances wrote:“common sense is the most widely shared commodity in the world, for every man is convinced that he is well supplied with it.”
 ― rene descartes
 disagree with what exactly? i do agree with descartes though.
 so again, give me facts aliens exist.0
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