Rise by Eddie Vedder banned from school talent show
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The funny thing is that if she actually knew her religion, Jesus hung out with the prostitutes and tax collectors. The people that she is banning from her school, so if they were good enough for him. They should be good enough for her.0
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Maybe your daughter should now form her routine around Blood.He who forgets will be destined to remember.
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Are we sure Ed is an atheist?Slipped on a curb in the road.0
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Wow! I can understand banning a song due to the lyrical content, but to disallow your daughter to perform because the teacher Googled Eddie Vedder and the internet informed her he is atheist is ridiculous, Catholic school or not.
Thing is, I don't find this the least bit surprising. What does surprise me is that your daughter isn't allowed to perform in the talent show. You'd think they'd just allow her to choose another song to dance to.Post edited by pineapplesandwaves. on0 -
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Narciso wrote:Are we sure Ed is an atheist?
This goes along with my thoughts, which are how did this teacher come to this conclusion, regardless of Ed's religious views? My guess would be wikipedia, google, or some sort of yahoo answers. This is absurd if you ask me. It may not be that big of a deal to some people, but the simple fact that this teacher "researched" Ed's personal views, found some bogus answers, and acted according to them would frustrate me to no end. Pure arrogant power trip on this teacher/school. Must be Creed fans.
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5against1- wrote:Also, lately ed seems to be changing his beliefs about a higher power...
I've had this feeling at times too. I think aging has a lot to do with it in any person, not just Ed. You begin to question your own mortality. It's almost a natual process no matter what you believe. But this is for another topic, thread, and probably section of message board.
If this thread doesn't locked soon anyways...
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Search "eddie vedder athiest"
The following is from the first link that shows up:
This is Janeane Garofalo. I'm interviewing Eddie Vedder and we're at Brendan's, on the Lower East Side.
JG: Can I ask what your feelings are about God?
EV: Sure. I think it's like a movie that was way too popular. It's a story that's been told too many times and just doesn't mean anything. Man lived on the planet -- [placing his fingers an inch apart], this is 5000 years of semi-recorded history. And God and the Bible, that came in somewhere around the middle, maybe 2000. This is the last 2000, this is what we're about to celebrate [indicating about an 1/8th of an inch with his fingers]. Now, humans, in some shape or form, have been on the earth for three million years [pointing across the room to indicate the distance]. So, all this time, from there [gesturing toward the other side of the room], to here [indicating the 1/8th of an inch], there was no God, there was no story, there was no myth and people lived on this planet and they wandered and they gathered and they did all these things. The planet was never threatened. How did they survive for all this time without this belief in God? I'd like to ask this to someone who knows about Christianity and maybe you do. That just seems funny to me.
JG: Funny ha-ha or funny strange?
EV: Funny strange. Funny bad. Funny frown. Not good. That laws are made and wars occur because of this story that was written, again, in this small part of time.
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Vedder explains in the interview that he "doesn't mind touching on spirituality in the songs," but that it's really "an individual thing; I've been open to some interesting theories, and I don't really consider it ... the word 'religion' has such bad connotations for me, that it's been responsible for wars, and it shouldn't be that way at all, it's just the way the meaning of the word has evolved to me. I have to wonder what we did on this planet before religion."
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Vedder has made a variety of comments about God and/or belief, at one point saying, "When you're out in the desert, you can't believe the amount of stars. We've sent mechanisms out there, and they haven't found anything. They've found different colors of sand, and rings, and gasses, but nobody's shown me anything that makes me feel secure in what happens afterward. All I really believe in is this moment, like right now." (Rolling Stone, Oct 31 1991, "Right Here, Right Now")
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At a July 22, 1998 Pearl Jam concert in Seattle's Memorial Stadium, Vedder said about the unusually beautiful weather, "I would thank God, but I don't believe in it."
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The July 22, 1998 edition of the Seattle Times (page E3) says of Vedder: "Later he tried to keep a straight face as he mockingly confessed: 'While we were away, I found God.' He rambled on about the Bible before concluding, 'We found God. He was right in our stomachs...'"
(The rambling had to do with finding a Bible in every hotel room, "Every hotel has Holy Bibles." July 23, 1998 Seattle Post-Intelligencer, page C3)
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Dude, sucky situation, really. I hope your daughter got over her disappointment
I thought of the gospel album thread from a few days ago almost instantly too!magga1976 wrote:The teacher will come around once Pearl Jam do a gospel albumSeattle 2009-09-21
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nursemomo wrote:Hey thanks for the responses. It felt kind of like a punch to the gut talking to her today, and this is taking some of the sting out of that.
So, to turn things around a bit, what are the best Pearl Jam songs for kids?!
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...but seriously, when my oldest niece was 6, and thru now, she would ask "can you play 'Feel it rising' again?" and she would tell me how the singer's voice was not a grumbly on this version, can I play another version where his voice is more rough sounding.ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you.
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I've been waiting for someone to post this. Its the only thing I've found on the subject. Maybe there's more?
It’s frustrating to be in this situation, it’s a bit offensive to me. Did they research all music, acts, poems, composers, etc... used during the recital or just EV? It seems as if her bit was singled out because of the music/EV. I wonder what made her say, "Eddie Vedder? I better research this character." Seemingly, she just found something that reinforced her pre-conceived notion and was quick to give it the ax.
Did you ask the teacher what she read or found specifically?Bant wrote:Search "eddie vedder athiest"
The following is from the first link that shows up:
This is Janeane Garofalo. I'm interviewing Eddie Vedder and we're at Brendan's, on the Lower East Side.
JG: Can I ask what your feelings are about God?
EV: Sure. I think it's like a movie that was way too popular. It's a story that's been told too many times and just doesn't mean anything. Man lived on the planet -- [placing his fingers an inch apart], this is 5000 years of semi-recorded history. And God and the Bible, that came in somewhere around the middle, maybe 2000. This is the last 2000, this is what we're about to celebrate [indicating about an 1/8th of an inch with his fingers]. Now, humans, in some shape or form, have been on the earth for three million years [pointing across the room to indicate the distance]. So, all this time, from there [gesturing toward the other side of the room], to here [indicating the 1/8th of an inch], there was no God, there was no story, there was no myth and people lived on this planet and they wandered and they gathered and they did all these things. The planet was never threatened. How did they survive for all this time without this belief in God? I'd like to ask this to someone who knows about Christianity and maybe you do. That just seems funny to me.
JG: Funny ha-ha or funny strange?
EV: Funny strange. Funny bad. Funny frown. Not good. That laws are made and wars occur because of this story that was written, again, in this small part of time.
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Vedder explains in the interview that he "doesn't mind touching on spirituality in the songs," but that it's really "an individual thing; I've been open to some interesting theories, and I don't really consider it ... the word 'religion' has such bad connotations for me, that it's been responsible for wars, and it shouldn't be that way at all, it's just the way the meaning of the word has evolved to me. I have to wonder what we did on this planet before religion."
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Vedder has made a variety of comments about God and/or belief, at one point saying, "When you're out in the desert, you can't believe the amount of stars. We've sent mechanisms out there, and they haven't found anything. They've found different colors of sand, and rings, and gasses, but nobody's shown me anything that makes me feel secure in what happens afterward. All I really believe in is this moment, like right now." (Rolling Stone, Oct 31 1991, "Right Here, Right Now")
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At a July 22, 1998 Pearl Jam concert in Seattle's Memorial Stadium, Vedder said about the unusually beautiful weather, "I would thank God, but I don't believe in it."
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The July 22, 1998 edition of the Seattle Times (page E3) says of Vedder: "Later he tried to keep a straight face as he mockingly confessed: 'While we were away, I found God.' He rambled on about the Bible before concluding, 'We found God. He was right in our stomachs...'"
(The rambling had to do with finding a Bible in every hotel room, "Every hotel has Holy Bibles." July 23, 1998 Seattle Post-Intelligencer, page C3)
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So much for tolerance...
Tell the teacher she won't perform the song if the teacher can show you the Bible passages regarding dinosaurs.
Tell her atheists are not bad people, we just don't need the fear of eternal damnation in order to to do the right thing.Ed: 2011-07-09 2012-11-04
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Narciso wrote:
The reason I ask is that he mentions God on the July 22nd Gorge show during Black. "surrounded by god"Narciso wrote:Are we sure Ed is an atheist?
Ed seems to be changing that a bit...his lyrics nowadays allude to belief in an afterlife and possibly a higher power.
But it seems kind of silly that they'd ban one of his songs just because Wikipedia says he's an atheist or something. The only way to know for sure is to just go up and ask him, and most of us aren't in the position to do that. And it's not like it's one of the PJ songs that have a million f bombs in them! The school needs to relax.Chicago 2000 : Chicago 2003 : Chicago 2006 : Summerfest 2006 : Lollapalooza 2007 : Chicago 2009 : Noblesville (Indy) 2010 : PJ20 (East Troy) 2011 : Wrigley Field 2013 : Milwaukee (Yield) 2014 : Wrigley Field 20160 -
WOW. Guess it's never too young to get a life lesson.
This just doesn't feel right to me, Catholic school or not. Is that allowed? Did she research every kid's song? Bet she did not and somehow something about this song or Ed just didn't sit well with her. You could probably make a big stink about it but I suppose the question is do you want to and how will your daughter feel about it? I'm with you on the changing schools bit, doesn't seem like a place that encourages rational thinking.
Maybe a Soundgarden song would sit better with her. Isn't Chris Cornell Greek Orthodox?
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very interesting stroy, I went to a catholic school as well, I never took part on a talent show, but I had the same issues at the time, I'm not much of a catholic nowadays, I haven't lost my faith, neither renewed it nor increased it, I just don't trust in those people...... I am not in the business of being liked anymore ...0
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i think ed is atheist but he has seemed more open the last few years..
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Indifference09 wrote:Crazy!
Maybe the teacher should listen to Given to Fly. Might change their tune
"Well Fuckers, he still stands." Would make it worse.0
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