Calif. pot dispensaries told by feds to shut down

Better Dan
Better Dan Posts: 5,684
edited October 2011 in A Moving Train
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44806723/ns ... nd_courts/

I have never smoked marijuana, but I do not think that it should be illegal...I also think that it can have a lot of health benefits for people with various ailments. This latest action by the government really disgusts me. With all the problems our country has and all the real crime that goes on out there, I do not believe this is the best use of resources.

What do you all think about Obama's administration toughening its stand on medical marijuana, as mentioned in the article?
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  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    WTF??
    Marijuana is illegal?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,026
    i didn't read the entire article but i am familiar with the issue. this is where i would support ron paul. the government has the wrong priority here. they could make it legal and generate revenue by taxing it. and there are medical benefits associated with it. decreased pain and increased appetite are 2 of the big ones. i mean tylenol has 3 main benefits that i can think of, pain reduction, fever reduction, and it is an anti-coagulant.

    all we are going to do is create more crime with drug gangs competing for business.

    herbs that can be bought over the counter are legal and they are not even regulated. i don't get why pot is treated any differently.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,456
    Wheres the Tea Party on this? Hmmm? States rights and all?
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Better Dan wrote:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44806723/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

    I have never smoked marijuana, but I do not think that it should be illegal...I also think that it can have a lot of health benefits for people with various ailments. This latest action by the government really disgusts me. With all the problems our country has and all the real crime that goes on out there, I do not believe this is the best use of resources.

    What do you all think about Obama's administration toughening its stand on medical marijuana, as mentioned in the article?

    I don't think he has a damn chance of stopping it thanks to dual federalism. 8-)
  • marcos
    marcos Posts: 2,112
    Well, there goes my plans for Going to California..................with an aching in my heart. Someone told me there's a girl out there with love in her eyes and flowers in her hair.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Legalize it. Tax it. Regulate it's use like Alcohol. Convert tobacco fields to pot fields.
    Benefits:
    Mexican Drug Cartels cannot compete with Phillip Morris Corp.
    No more worrying about smuggling pot across the border.
    No need for illegal worker farm hands... American teenagers will line up for miles to pick the stuff for pennies... as long as they get paid in pot.
    U.S. can finally declare the 'War On Drugs' a victory... and we get another 3-day weekend.
    Have Oakland/Alameda Stadium convert from beer to pot and end the majority of senseless violence in Alameda County... and boost nachos sales.

    Cons:
    More... wait... you know... more of...
    ...
    what?
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,834
    I've had two people very close to me die because of alcohol but have never known anyone to even get injured let alone die from marijuana. In fact I've known people who have benefited greatly from medical marijuana. What a travesty. Shutting down the dispensaries makes no sense at all.
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Cosmo wrote:
    Legalize it. Tax it. Regulate it's use like Alcohol. Convert tobacco fields to pot fields.
    Benefits:
    Mexican Drug Cartels cannot compete with Phillip Morris Corp.
    No more worrying about smuggling pot across the border.
    No need for illegal worker farm hands... American teenagers will line up for miles to pick the stuff for pennies... as long as they get paid in pot.
    U.S. can finally declare the 'War On Drugs' a victory... and we get another 3-day weekend.
    Have Oakland/Alameda Stadium convert from beer to pot and end the majority of senseless violence in Alameda County... and boost nachos sales.

    Cons:
    More... wait... you know... more of...
    ...
    what?

    Nachos will finally get the attention they deserve! :lol:
  • bgivens33
    bgivens33 Posts: 290
    I'm torn on this one... I don't think the federal government should have any say in a states decision to allow medical marijuana. That being said, the federal government should be consistent and not pick and choose what laws to enforce.
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    fuck the feds. and fuck Obama, the fucking hypocrite. there is now way to intellectualize this, because it is fucking stupid. that's all.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    he still stands wrote:
    fuck the feds. and fuck Obama, the fucking hypocrite. there is now way to intellectualize this, because it is fucking stupid. that's all.

    +1. i don't see myself voting for obama next year.
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    fuckin hypocrite.
    fuck him. Too bad you didn't get caught and your criminal record kept you out of politics. stand up for what you believe in mr.commander in chief....or are you just another politician talking out your ass? Does anyone need anymore examples that voting mainstream candidates will result in NO CHANGE?
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    edited October 2011
    One and done for Barack Hussein Obama.
    Another example of him losing.
    Fucking moron.
    He doesn't know who he is. At least or former two term President stood for his beliefs.
    Btw...since BHO is a one term President does that mean he is only half as good as the moving trains public enemy number one...the awesome GWB?
    Not even half.
    Winners win.

    Woot!
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  • fear4freedom
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Yep. What u said
    Obama doesn't know who he is. My country needs a solid leader.


    10/18/2009

    AP Newsbreak: New medical marijuana policy issued

    By DEVLIN BARRETT
    Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON —
    The Obama administration will not seek to arrest medical marijuana users and suppliers as long as they conform to state laws, under new policy guidelines to be sent to federal prosecutors Monday.

    Two Justice Department officials described the new policy to The Associated Press, saying prosecutors will be told it is not a good use of their time to arrest people who use or provide medical marijuana in strict compliance with state laws.

    The new policy is a significant departure from the Bush administration, which insisted it would continue to enforce federal anti-pot laws regardless of state codes.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Yep. What u said
    Obama doesn't know who he is. My country needs a solid leader.


    10/18/2009

    AP Newsbreak: New medical marijuana policy issued

    By DEVLIN BARRETT
    Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON —
    The Obama administration will not seek to arrest medical marijuana users and suppliers as long as they conform to state laws, under new policy guidelines to be sent to federal prosecutors Monday.

    Two Justice Department officials described the new policy to The Associated Press, saying prosecutors will be told it is not a good use of their time to arrest people who use or provide medical marijuana in strict compliance with state laws.

    The new policy is a significant departure from the Bush administration, which insisted it would continue to enforce federal anti-pot laws regardless of state codes.

    In other words, you attack Obama when you hear he's cracking down on marijuana use, and you attack him again when you find out he's not cracking down on marijuana use?
    So the bottom line is you don't like Obama, and you're dislike of him has nothing to do with his policies. Maybe it's just because he's black, or a democrat?
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    Byrnzie wrote:
    In other words, you attack Obama when you hear he's cracking down on marijuana use, and you attack him again when you find out he's not cracking down on marijuana use?
    So the bottom line is you don't like Obama, and you're dislike of him has nothing to do with his policies. Maybe it's just because he's black, or a democrat?

    Yeah, I'm really surprised to see those guys railing on Obama for this. I didn't realize we agreed that all drugs should be legalized (or at least the ones that aren't harmful, e.g., pot, shrooms and lsd)
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Wheres the Tea Party on this? Hmmm? States rights and all?


    I think you would be surprised, many who would align themselves with tea party beliefs would also believe in an end to the silly war on drugs. One of the greatest moments of this political year came when Ron Paul talked about it in the debate in south carolina i believe, and shortly after introduced a bill that would make only trafficking drugs across state and federal borders a criminal offense...
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/22/marijuana-bill-barney-frank-ron-paul_n_882707.html
    I am not sure who is against marijuana legalization more, the federal government or the drug cartels...hmmm let me think about this one...looks like the mexican and colombian governments aren't the only ones in bed with the drug cartels. Too bad that more neo-cons cannot rectify their beliefs long enough to end this silly national war on drugs. Can you imagine the good that would be done by the DEA being around to catch white collar criminals instead?
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  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Byrnzie wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Yep. What u said
    Obama doesn't know who he is. My country needs a solid leader.


    10/18/2009

    AP Newsbreak: New medical marijuana policy issued

    By DEVLIN BARRETT
    Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON —
    The Obama administration will not seek to arrest medical marijuana users and suppliers as long as they conform to state laws, under new policy guidelines to be sent to federal prosecutors Monday.

    Two Justice Department officials described the new policy to The Associated Press, saying prosecutors will be told it is not a good use of their time to arrest people who use or provide medical marijuana in strict compliance with state laws.

    The new policy is a significant departure from the Bush administration, which insisted it would continue to enforce federal anti-pot laws regardless of state codes.

    In other words, you attack Obama when you hear he's cracking down on marijuana use, and you attack him again when you find out he's not cracking down on marijuana use?
    So the bottom line is you don't like Obama, and you're dislike of him has nothing to do with his policies. Maybe it's just because he's black, or a democrat?


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  • arthurdent
    arthurdent Posts: 969
    Better Dan wrote:

    What do you all think about Obama's administration toughening its stand on medical marijuana, as mentioned in the article?

    I think this needed to happen a long time ago. Simply because the Supreme Court needs to decide this once and for all. Is it a states' rights issue, or do federal laws trump that? SCOTUS needs to make a ruling on it.
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