I wanna thank Michelle Bachmann

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,076
    cincybearcat wrote:
    A war on the middle class???? Hahahaha that is priceless.

    Those tax cuts have ensured spending is still occurring by many. I'm all for a reform of the tax code to ensure the super rich are paying a decent %, but it is a straight out lie to talk up the plan as a "millionaires and billionaires paying their fair share" and then raising taxes on families >$250,000. It is a flat out lie. It will not solve the problem. And the real problem is over half of the people don't pay any taxes.

    A tax increase on most families making $250,000 will simply result in less spending. So what happens then?
    so there is no war on the middle class?

    who is most out of work? the middle class.

    what is one of the first things the gop went after to cut? the unemployment benefits that beneifits who??? the middle class..

    the union busting is targeting the middle class.

    the threat to repeal obama's health insurance reform is targeting the middle class.

    the threat to do away with medicaid, and social security is going to effect the middle class.

    the middle class is shrinking while the lower class is growing. go ahead and look at the trends.

    jobs are not being created, even with the precious tax cuts, and the middle class is bearing the brunt of it. people do not have disposable income anymore. the middle class is who buys things to drive the economy. if they don't have money how can they stimulate the economy? how can the poor stimulate the economy when they don't have money?
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    hmmm...

    Vast Majority Of Americans Favor Buffett Rule's Millionaire Tax: Poll


    Shocking, most americans favor taking someone else's $. :lol:

    Again "Millionaire Tax"???? The math doesn't add up to the rhetoric and that is what pisses me off.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,076
    cincybearcat wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    hmmm...

    Vast Majority Of Americans Favor Buffett Rule's Millionaire Tax: Poll


    Shocking, most americans favor taking someone else's $. :lol:

    Again "Millionaire Tax"???? The math doesn't add up to the rhetoric and that is what pisses me off.
    kind of like the math that does not add up when you say that you can reduce the deficit by cutting spending only and not generating revenue.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    A war on the middle class???? Hahahaha that is priceless.

    Those tax cuts have ensured spending is still occurring by many. I'm all for a reform of the tax code to ensure the super rich are paying a decent %, but it is a straight out lie to talk up the plan as a "millionaires and billionaires paying their fair share" and then raising taxes on families >$250,000. It is a flat out lie. It will not solve the problem. And the real problem is over half of the people don't pay any taxes.

    A tax increase on most families making $250,000 will simply result in less spending. So what happens then?
    so there is no war on the middle class?

    who is most out of work? the middle class.

    what is one of the first things the gop went after to cut? the unemployment benefits that beneifits who??? the middle class..

    the union busting is targeting the middle class.

    the threat to repeal obama's health insurance reform is targeting the middle class.

    the threat to do away with medicaid, and social security is going to effect the middle class.

    the middle class is shrinking while the lower class is growing. go ahead and look at the trends.

    jobs are not being created, even with the precious tax cuts, and the middle class is bearing the brunt of it. people do not have disposable income anymore. the middle class is who buys things to drive the economy. if they don't have money how can they stimulate the economy? how can the poor stimulate the economy when they don't have money?

    Oh the drama of warfare. :roll:
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    hmmm...

    Vast Majority Of Americans Favor Buffett Rule's Millionaire Tax: Poll


    Shocking, most americans favor taking someone else's $. :lol:

    Again "Millionaire Tax"???? The math doesn't add up to the rhetoric and that is what pisses me off.
    kind of like the math that does not add up when you say that you can reduce the deficit by cutting spending only and not generating revenue.

    Now the comprehensive reading isn't adding up because i never said that. But go ahead an be a liar like our president and make things up to suit you.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,076
    cincybearcat wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    A war on the middle class???? Hahahaha that is priceless.

    Those tax cuts have ensured spending is still occurring by many. I'm all for a reform of the tax code to ensure the super rich are paying a decent %, but it is a straight out lie to talk up the plan as a "millionaires and billionaires paying their fair share" and then raising taxes on families >$250,000. It is a flat out lie. It will not solve the problem. And the real problem is over half of the people don't pay any taxes.

    A tax increase on most families making $250,000 will simply result in less spending. So what happens then?
    so there is no war on the middle class?

    who is most out of work? the middle class.

    what is one of the first things the gop went after to cut? the unemployment benefits that beneifits who??? the middle class..

    the union busting is targeting the middle class.

    the threat to repeal obama's health insurance reform is targeting the middle class.

    the threat to do away with medicaid, and social security is going to effect the middle class.

    the middle class is shrinking while the lower class is growing. go ahead and look at the trends.

    jobs are not being created, even with the precious tax cuts, and the middle class is bearing the brunt of it. people do not have disposable income anymore. the middle class is who buys things to drive the economy. if they don't have money how can they stimulate the economy? how can the poor stimulate the economy when they don't have money?

    Oh the drama of warfare. :roll:

    that is reality pal.

    and where are those jobs the republicans promised???

    oh yeah, they will get to that once they get obamacare repealed and jesus and creationsim taught in school..
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,076
    cincybearcat wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    kind of like the math that does not add up when you say that you can reduce the deficit by cutting spending only and not generating revenue.

    Now the comprehensive reading isn't adding up because i never said that. But go ahead an be a liar like our president and make things up to suit you.
    so you agree with me then, that it doesn't add up and you can't get out of debt without raising revenue?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    kind of like the math that does not add up when you say that you can reduce the deficit by cutting spending only and not generating revenue.

    Now the comprehensive reading isn't adding up because i never said that. But go ahead an be a liar like our president and make things up to suit you.
    so you agree with me then, that it doesn't add up and you can't get out of debt without raising revenue?

    Yes. And I agree with "millionaires and billionaires" paying more in taxes by removing loopholes etc. I just strongly disagree with Obama sneaking in the increased taxes on families making >$250,000 and think it's bs. He is trying to sneak it by and I believe it would hurt the economy more than it would help.

    Let me ask you this about jobs... where are the jobs from the last round of Stimulus?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,076
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Yes. And I agree with "millionaires and billionaires" paying more in taxes by removing loopholes etc. I just strongly disagree with Obama sneaking in the increased taxes on families making >$250,000 and think it's bs. He is trying to sneak it by and I believe it would hurt the economy more than it would help.

    Let me ask you this about jobs... where are the jobs from the last round of Stimulus?
    nice dodge.

    so we agree to an extent. i still believe that those making over $250,000 can afford the increase. it is only going to be what it was under clinton, and they managed just fine at that tax rate. actually unemployment was lower, people were hired, and people had money to spend. i disagree that letting those cuts expire will damage the economy. a rising tide lifts all boats....

    those jobs were temporary jobs and got many people back to work. at least for awhile. the economy is a complicated issue. it is not a simple solution. but if the goal is to reduce deficits, and if raising revenue still has us at a much smaller deifict, wouldn't it make sense to do what we can to dig out of the pit that we are in? we can always cut some more spending later to get us closer to the mark, but we HAVE to raise revenue in this situation.

    nice dodge by the way, but i can argue that the gop is going to kill jobs by not approving obama's jobs plan, even when it was based on things that the gop has already supported and voted for in the past.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Chip McFlennigan
    Chip McFlennigan Posts: 1,162
    cincybearcat wrote:
    johnny america wrote:
    I don't think people making over 250K should pay any taxes.

    Nor should people making under 20K.

    The burden for everything in this country should fall on the shoulders of the middle class. The more one works, the more they ought to be penalized.

    Just so you know, your posts are the most annoying that I read. Congrats.

    Glad I could ruin your experience on this board a little bit more.

    Now, are you a hippie mom who leans republican? Quite the contradiction. Kinda like making a bunch of posts in my thread and then telling me you hate my posts.

    Start your own satirical threads if you don't like mine. Though, now that I know I annoy you, I'll be sure to post around your posts as much as I can.
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  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Staying on the subject of the tax talk, what if Obama proposed the wealthy, let's say just the millionaires and billionaires, go back to paying in the days of Eisenhower (91%) or even Nixon (70%) and Reagan (50%)? There would definitely be an outcry of "Class warfare". This is all just hypothetical.
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  • markin ball
    markin ball Posts: 1,076
    cincybearcat wrote:
    http://www.mydollarplan.com/tax-brackets/

    Effective tax rates after deductions are a much, much different story. And that is what should be discussed.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    johnny america wrote:

    Glad I could ruin your experience on this board a little bit more.

    Now, are you a hippie mom who leans republican? Quite the contradiction. Kinda like making a bunch of posts in my thread and then telling me you hate my posts.

    Start your own satirical threads if you don't like mine. Though, now that I know I annoy you, I'll be sure to post around your posts as much as I can.


    You don't ruin my experience. Your posts just got really old for me really fast that's all. I liked some, but then you never break character and actually state any opinions it seems. But if it's working for ya, do what you gotta do. Hell, I post some crap like that from time to time as well.

    Anyhow, I probably shouldn't have even addressed it here. Take care.
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  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    kind of like the math that does not add up when you say that you can reduce the deficit by cutting spending only and not generating revenue.

    Now the comprehensive reading isn't adding up because i never said that. But go ahead an be a liar like our president and make things up to suit you.
    so you agree with me then, that it doesn't add up and you can't get out of debt without raising revenue?



    would you agree that you can raise revenue without raising taxes?
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  • PJ218304
    PJ218304 Posts: 15
    Am I the only one sincerely hoping Bachmann is the next President?

    Maybe it's more apparent to a Canadian looking in from the outside, but the American President has very little political power; he seems to be blamed for everything yet has control over almost nothing. So with that in mind, I think the best thing for any party is to ensure that the other party is always in the White House - and even better the president should be as incompetant as possible.

    With the endless PR an incompentent president's antics generate (see 8 years of George W Bush for reference material) combined with the ability to blame the president for any problem (for example, economic problems that started decades before he took office) the other party could dominate both houses of Congress and wield 98% of the actual federal political power, confident that any problems could be resolved by pointing the finger at the President's office again.

    So, after selecting the Democratic party as the lesser of two evils, I suggest a collective effort by all Democrat supporters and those Republicans who don't know about the plot to support Bachmann for president.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    PJ218304 wrote:
    Am I the only one sincerely hoping Bachmann is the next President?

    Maybe it's more apparent to a Canadian looking in from the outside, but the American President has very little political power; he seems to be blamed for everything yet has control over almost nothing. So with that in mind, I think the best thing for any party is to ensure that the other party is always in the White House - and even better the president should be as incompetant as possible.

    With the endless PR an incompentent president's antics generate (see 8 years of George W Bush for reference material) combined with the ability to blame the president for any problem (for example, economic problems that started decades before he took office) the other party could dominate both houses of Congress and wield 98% of the actual federal political power, confident that any problems could be resolved by pointing the finger at the President's office again.

    So, after selecting the Democratic party as the lesser of two evils, I suggest a collective effort by all Democrat supporters and those Republicans who don't know about the plot to support Bachmann for president.
    ...
    The only problem I see with that is Bachmann launching a nuclear strike on San Francisco during one of her psychoctic episodes.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    The only problem I see with that is Bachmann launching a nuclear strike on San Francisco during one of her psychoctic episodes.


    What's psychotic about launching nuclear weapons against anywhere in California?
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    The only problem I see with that is Bachmann launching a nuclear strike on San Francisco during one of her psychoctic episodes.
    What's psychotic about launching nuclear weapons against anywhere in California?
    ...
    Well, nothing... I suppose.
    (as long as you are Michele Bachmann).
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    The only problem I see with that is Bachmann launching a nuclear strike on San Francisco during one of her psychoctic episodes.


    What's psychotic about launching nuclear weapons against anywhere in California?
    Where will her husband go?
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,075
    Anyone see this moron on Meet The Press this morning? "Obama is almost trying to lose the war on terror". Shut the fuck up dipshit, criticize many aspects of Obama's presidency, but the war on terror? Come the fuck on. This shit pisses me off, this fucking moron is still trying to paint him as unamerican and essentially painting him as a terrorist. Only a couple more months of this jackass flapping her gums before we can forget about her for good.

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