So....did EV finally stop smoking???

What someone drinks and their choice to smoke or not is just that their choice.
As fans we have no right to discuss personal issues.

If something other than wine may be in those bottles perhaps this is done for a reason.
Not drinking is not lame to anyone who chooses not to especially fathers who dont drink.

But as always just my opinion

bionicamy wrote:

What someone drinks and their choice to smoke or not is just that their choice.
As fans we have no right to discuss personal issues.

If something other than wine may be in those bottles perhaps this is done for a reason.
Not drinking is not lame to anyone who chooses not to especially fathers who dont drink.

But as always just my opinion

Is that really true though? As fans of the band, we spend a ton of money on tickets, merch, bootlegs, and studio recordings to hear them sound their best - with a singer that smokes, that is never going to happen. I think as paying customers we have every right to comment on something that directly affects the quality of product. It's not like we're commenting on off the wall personal choices. Ed's decision to smoke is certainly his own, but it's also our right as the consumer of said voice to discuss it, or for some of us, stop paying to hear it.

dte421 wrote:

bionicamy wrote:

What someone drinks and their choice to smoke or not is just that their choice.
As fans we have no right to discuss personal issues.

If something other than wine may be in those bottles perhaps this is done for a reason.
Not drinking is not lame to anyone who chooses not to especially fathers who dont drink.

But as always just my opinion

Is that really true though? As fans of the band, we spend a ton of money on tickets, merch, bootlegs, and studio recordings to hear them sound their best - with a singer that smokes, that is never going to happen. I think as paying customers we have every right to comment on something that directly affects the quality of product. It's not like we're commenting on off the wall personal choices. Ed's decision to smoke is certainly his own, but it's also our right as the consumer of said voice to discuss it, or for some of us, stop paying to hear it.

Yes and no...we can comment....we always have that choice but to try to argue about it doesn't change anything.

thefixer9 wrote:

Yes and no...we can comment....we always have that choice but to try to argue about it doesn't change anything.

That's what it comes down to- we can scream about it all we want, but its not like he's going to read a board and be like 'man, i didnt realize i could sing better if i stopped.'

If they did... they would've played Dirty Frank at PJ20.

dte421 wrote:

bionicamy wrote:

What someone drinks and their choice to smoke or not is just that their choice.
As fans we have no right to discuss personal issues.

If something other than wine may be in those bottles perhaps this is done for a reason.
Not drinking is not lame to anyone who chooses not to especially fathers who dont drink.

But as always just my opinion

Is that really true though? As fans of the band, we spend a ton of money on tickets, merch, bootlegs, and studio recordings to hear them sound their best - with a singer that smokes, that is never going to happen. I think as paying customers we have every right to comment on something that directly affects the quality of product. It's not like we're commenting on off the wall personal choices. Ed's decision to smoke is certainly his own, but it's also our right as the consumer of said voice to discuss it, or for some of us, stop paying to hear it.

To comment on a sound of a song a like or a dislike is one thing but to comment on what the man is doing in his personal life is another. There are many things that could be contributing to is vocal range. When they started as a band his vocal range was still developing. A man isn't going to sound exactly the same 20 years later and thats ok because I think he still sounds great.

I still enjoy what I hear. I still enjoy the performances they give sadly what I don't enjoy is often the vibe from other "fans" who have an elitist attitude..... That affects the quality of the product for me more than anything.

Again just my opinion

i hope he doesn't quit until i can share a smoke with him, after that he's free to do what he wants

no chance!

Brony wrote:

in regards with the wine vs gatorade bottles......

i have a boot from 2000 i think LA where he says he doesnt want the band to be a 3 hour advertisement for Dodge. Not saying that he has to go and put gatorade in a wine bottle, but maybe its along the same lines.

yes, it was in los angeles in 2000. i was at that show and they made them take the advertisements down before they would play at the greek theater. that night he was drinking hot tea...not in a bottle.

dte421 wrote:

thefixer9 wrote:

We all know smoking isn't good for you...if he wants to then it's his choice...being at his Solo show he sounded the best I have ever heard him...well at least on the boots... But either way they are going to turn the songs down because you really think at his age he can yelling Habit?

My man, you need to get yourself some '95 - '98 recordings

(Ed's voice was possibly at it's all-time worst during the summer/fall '95 tour)

dte421 wrote:

pandora wrote:

dte421 wrote:

Oh, and the Gatorade in the wine bottles is flat out lame. Pure and simple.

Until he hands YOU one ... come on its awesome interaction with his fans from way back

it's called appreciation of tradition ...

I will not say what is lame... I will not say who is lame

but it is NOT Eddie ever!

I'm one of "his" fans from way back, and I can't even begin to understand how it's tradition. He still passes wine to the crowd, the Gatorade is always kept in a separate bottle on stage. But, we can agree to disagree. Glad that it tickles your fancy

hold a bottle of siduri pinot noir up to the light does kinda look like gatorade,lol