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  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/carianoff/2514675129/
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    CH156378 wrote:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/carianoff/2514675129/

    Look at those. fucking. nails.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,360
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    CH156378 wrote:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/carianoff/2514675129/

    Look at those. fucking. nails.

    Bleh. :sick:
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  • MFCarissa
    MFCarissa Posts: 494
    CH156378 wrote:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/carianoff/2514675129/

    It's James Van Horne. I guess the best way to describe him is that he's a famous hobo around these parts. He stands outside of every Tigers game, and some Red Wings and Lions games, with his Hulk hand and cup chanting "Eat 'em up Tigers/Red Wings/Lions! Eat 'em up!"
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,360
    Quick question for Cy Young voters. How often does Kershaw even go out for a 9th inning, let alone to finish off a 1-0 shutout? Sorry, but he is just not in the same class as Halladay & Lee.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,360
    MFCarissa wrote:
    That would be awesome... but not really, because the Phillies scare me.

    You should've seen Cliff Lee tonight. ;) Aside from that one pitch, of course.

    Tigers have some good pitching too. And maybe a better bullpen.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Quick question for Cy Young voters. How often does Kershaw even go out for a 9th inning, let alone to finish off a 1-0 shutout? Sorry, but he is just not in the same class as Halladay & Lee.

    How can you possibly make that claim? Just because Mattingly doesn't let him go out for the 9th as much Manuel does. Kershaw has thrown more innings that Lee and one less that Halladay and has a better ERA, lower WHIP, and more strike outs than both of them. Come one dude, because a manager doesn't run him out for the 9th makes Lee and Halladay better than him?
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    And I was gonna say - they made a convincing statement on Phils PGL - if Kershaw gets the triple crown, how do you NOT give it to him?
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,360
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Quick question for Cy Young voters. How often does Kershaw even go out for a 9th inning, let alone to finish off a 1-0 shutout? Sorry, but he is just not in the same class as Halladay & Lee.

    How can you possibly make that claim? Just because Mattingly doesn't let him go out for the 9th as much Manuel does. Kershaw has thrown more innings that Lee and one less that Halladay and has a better ERA, lower WHIP, and more strike outs than both of them. Come one dude, because a manager doesn't run him out for the 9th makes Lee and Halladay better than him?

    Lee and Halladay act as their own closers frequently, and a couple times they haven't quite finished it off (I think once each). But Kershaw doesn't act as a closer. His CG's were all at least with a lead of a few runs.

    They all have basically the same amount of innings. Cliff & Roy tied for the lead and Clayton one back.

    Also, when you adjust for park factors, I'd think Cliff & Roy would jump ahead in a few of those funky SABR stats.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Quick question for Cy Young voters. How often does Kershaw even go out for a 9th inning, let alone to finish off a 1-0 shutout? Sorry, but he is just not in the same class as Halladay & Lee.

    How can you possibly make that claim? Just because Mattingly doesn't let him go out for the 9th as much Manuel does. Kershaw has thrown more innings that Lee and one less that Halladay and has a better ERA, lower WHIP, and more strike outs than both of them. Come one dude, because a manager doesn't run him out for the 9th makes Lee and Halladay better than him?

    Lee and Halladay act as their own closers frequently, and a couple times they haven't quite finished it off (I think once each). But Kershaw doesn't act as a closer. His CG's were all at least with a lead of a few runs.

    They all have basically the same amount of innings. Cliff & Roy tied for the lead and Clayton one back.

    Also, when you adjust for park factors, I'd think Cliff & Roy would jump ahead in a few of those funky SABR stats.

    That has nothing to do with Kershaw though. That's on Mattingly and Manuel. Halladay has a higher ERA+, Lee lower. Funny how SABR stats are important when they work in your favor, no?
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    If I made as many idiotic statements in my job as Heyman does, I would be fired in 4 seconds. Ozzie for Morrision? You're a fucking idiot.
  • Chief Broom
    Chief Broom Posts: 2,036
    Love My Tigers!!!
    They can make the full run this year!
    Verlander is a MONSTER!!!
    MLMF Det
  • MFCarissa
    MFCarissa Posts: 494
    Chief Broom wrote:
    Love My Tigers!!!
    They can make the full run this year!
    Verlander is a MONSTER!!!

    http://roarofthetigers.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/does-it-ever-get-boring-talking-about-how-good-justin-verlander-is/
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  • tvismyfriend
    tvismyfriend Posts: 2,118
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:

    How can you possibly make that claim? Just because Mattingly doesn't let him go out for the 9th as much Manuel does. Kershaw has thrown more innings that Lee and one less that Halladay and has a better ERA, lower WHIP, and more strike outs than both of them. Come one dude, because a manager doesn't run him out for the 9th makes Lee and Halladay better than him?

    Lee and Halladay act as their own closers frequently, and a couple times they haven't quite finished it off (I think once each). But Kershaw doesn't act as a closer. His CG's were all at least with a lead of a few runs.

    They all have basically the same amount of innings. Cliff & Roy tied for the lead and Clayton one back.

    Also, when you adjust for park factors, I'd think Cliff & Roy would jump ahead in a few of those funky SABR stats.

    That has nothing to do with Kershaw though. That's on Mattingly and Manuel. Halladay has a higher ERA+, Lee lower. Funny how SABR stats are important when they work in your favor, no?
    Halladay's ERA being higher than Kershaw's isn't a valid point. Halladay has given up one more earned run than Kershaw and you can't bust a man's balls over that.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    tvismyfriend wrote:
    Halladay's ERA being higher than Kershaw's isn't a valid point. Halladay has given up one more earned run than Kershaw and you can't bust a man's balls over that.

    Okay, but the fact is Kershaw could very well lead the league wins, strikeouts and ERA and I would imagine he has to have the lowest WHIP as well. Almost a toss up but I don't see how someone could lead so many categories and not win it.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Chief Broom wrote:
    Love My Tigers!!!
    They can make the full run this year!
    Verlander is a MONSTER!!!

    I agree...Verlander and Fister game 1 and 2 starters.

    Maybe Porcello starts game 3 depending on how he pitches in his next start.

    Dombrowski has made all Good decisions and trades this past off season and during the season.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,360
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    tvismyfriend wrote:
    Halladay's ERA being higher than Kershaw's isn't a valid point. Halladay has given up one more earned run than Kershaw and you can't bust a man's balls over that.

    Okay, but the fact is Kershaw could very well lead the league wins, strikeouts and ERA and I would imagine he has to have the lowest WHIP as well. Almost a toss up but I don't see how someone could lead so many categories and not win it.

    You SABR people are always cherry picking. Now you're going with traditional stats. :?

    Doesn't Doc lead in ERA+ and WAR?
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    tvismyfriend wrote:
    Halladay's ERA being higher than Kershaw's isn't a valid point. Halladay has given up one more earned run than Kershaw and you can't bust a man's balls over that.

    Okay, but the fact is Kershaw could very well lead the league wins, strikeouts and ERA and I would imagine he has to have the lowest WHIP as well. Almost a toss up but I don't see how someone could lead so many categories and not win it.

    You SABR people are always cherry picking. Now you're going with traditional stats. :?

    Doesn't Doc lead in ERA+ and WAR?

    I have never really used SABR stats for pitchers. CC has a higher WAR than Verlander. Like I said, I think it's close to a toss up, just leading too many categories not to win it.
  • MFCarissa
    MFCarissa Posts: 494
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Chief Broom wrote:
    Love My Tigers!!!
    They can make the full run this year!
    Verlander is a MONSTER!!!

    I agree...Verlander and Fister game 1 and 2 starters.

    Maybe Porcello starts game 3 depending on how he pitches in his next start.

    Dombrowski has made all Good decisions and trades this past off season and during the season.

    I think they are actually discussing Verlander and Scherzer at home, because Scherzer has a great ERA in Comerica. A whole run lower than in other parks, I believe. And Fister has been great anywhere and everywhere lately.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    If Verlander win 25...does he get the MVP as well as Cy Young? I believe he will only be the fourth pither since 69 to win 25. I say yes for 2 reasons...25 - 5 is damn good and without him being so solid in the the few months the tigers might not been in a position to make those trades that solidified their lineup...imo.
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