If ya say bands today don't have it, you haven't seen Arcade Fire. Or The Hold Steady. I can go on.
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I've tried and tried and I can't get into the Arcade Fire. There are some good bands today, but not to the extent of good bands there were in the grunge era.
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I agree there's some great bands today, and it's just the changing times, but I think the alternative explosion was the last hugely successful movement.
I wonder if all the huge amphitheaters and concert venues will eventually be torn down, b/c I don't think there's many bands of the now that can fill them in the future. As big as people say Arcade Fire is , I don't see them ever being able to go on a cross country tour filling basketball arenas or outdoor sheds.
I agree there's some great bands today, and it's just the changing times, but I think the alternative explosion was the last hugely successful movement.
I wonder if all the huge amphitheaters and concert venues will eventually be torn down, b/c I don't think there's many bands of the now that can fill them in the future. As big as people say Arcade Fire is , I don't see them ever being able to go on a cross country tour filling basketball arenas or outdoor sheds.
I worry more about the amphitheaters than the concert venues. Small concert venues are no issue, as they can be filled, and large concert venues are usually nothing more than temporarily repurposed sports venues. Amphitheaters, however, rarely have purpose beyond concerts.
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If ya say bands today don't have it, you haven't seen Arcade Fire. Or The Hold Steady. I can go on.
While these bands may be good (I like the Hold Steady, I just can't do Arcade Fire. I've tried), they do not have the global appeal that Nirvana, PJ, Soundgarden had.
A lot of that also has to do with the times. Back then, people heard new music from MTV and the radio, and actually bought records, so obviously seeing and hearing them all the time helped.
But anyone who was old enough to remember the early 90's (which I would guess is most people on here) would remember how huge and commercial those bands became in a very short time, and how bands like Arcade Fire are nowhere near that global appeal.Yet anyways.
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I agree there's some great bands today, and it's just the changing times, but I think the alternative explosion was the last hugely successful movement.
I wonder if all the huge amphitheaters and concert venues will eventually be torn down, b/c I don't think there's many bands of the now that can fill them in the future. As big as people say Arcade Fire is , I don't see them ever being able to go on a cross country tour filling basketball arenas or outdoor sheds.
I worry more about the amphitheaters than the concert venues. Small concert venues are no issue, as they can be filled, and large concert venues are usually nothing more than temporarily repurposed sports venues. Amphitheaters, however, rarely have purpose beyond concerts.
Yeah, I guess there's not really many huge indoor "concert" venues. Arenas are just handy. Hopefully it means will get more venues built specifically for music.
bands like Wilco, My Morning Jacket, Flaming Lips (still), Pearl Jam (still), Black Keys, Radiohead, Death Cab, Avett Brothers, Mumford and Son, and Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros have still carried the torch over the shit filled rive that echo's Nickleback's "Photograph" and drowns today's youth down it's "mainstream" (get it, river/stream, yuk yuk yuk).
So I would disagree. There is still interesting music being made by new younger bands and older still hip bands.
To echo what someone else said: Bands today still have it, they are just marketed differently. MTV still plays music videos, but at like 3am- 7am. They have let reality tv take over, that is how they get their ratings. Music on MTV has pretty much taken a back seat, or is locked in the trunk. Music stores (Independent ones have dissapeared too. It's all about digital exposure now for the majority of bands I see listed on here that would be considered newer. Bands still make videos though, and big bands can still get airplay (New foo fighters album for example, would be an modern alternative band that is still having heavy publicity for an album on television.
I agree there's some great bands today, and it's just the changing times, but I think the alternative explosion was the last hugely successful movement.
I wonder if all the huge amphitheaters and concert venues will eventually be torn down, b/c I don't think there's many bands of the now that can fill them in the future. As big as people say Arcade Fire is , I don't see them ever being able to go on a cross country tour filling basketball arenas or outdoor sheds.
I have to disagree, they sold out three consecutive nights at the UIC Pavillion. The National opened and they were great.
weve had 2 or 3 threads not on scott saying this, but voicing similar sentiments to him,
i loved/love grunge and its one of the conerstones of my youth. but to suggest no other musical movement has come out of the world, since 1994 is beyond ridiculous.
i think the whole point is that when you spend your time thinking new scenes or new movements will sound or look like grunge. Hair metal and grunge couldnt have been more different, in style, in sound, in lyrics, in ethics. and i think its quite clear the next nirvana, will sound nothing like Nirvana.
The 90's, early 90's were such a magnificent time, but i think its silly to suggest since 1994, nothing exciting music wise has appeared.
I agree there's some great bands today, and it's just the changing times, but I think the alternative explosion was the last hugely successful movement.
I wonder if all the huge amphitheaters and concert venues will eventually be torn down, b/c I don't think there's many bands of the now that can fill them in the future. As big as people say Arcade Fire is , I don't see them ever being able to go on a cross country tour filling basketball arenas or outdoor sheds.
I have to disagree, they sold out three consecutive nights at the UIC Pavillion. The National opened and they were great.
With a capacity of 7k, in one one of the biggest cities in the world and a pretty well known support act. I'm talkin 20-30k.
I think he's right. It's very hard to pick out a defined "movement" now when you've got the indie guys on one side, the cock-rock "alternative" revival on the radio on another, the hip hop and mainstream pop kiddies in between. It's a jumble of sounds versus one defining culture.
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I think he's right. It's very hard to pick out a defined "movement" now when you've got the indie guys on one side, the cock-rock "alternative" revival on the radio on another, the hip hop and mainstream pop kiddies in between. It's a jumble of sounds versus one defining culture.
your comment that today on one side weve got the indie guys(and girls), on the other the cockrock alternative. and in between the kiddiepop and hip hop .. its all a jumble of sounds versus one defining culture is ludicrous. grunge was not the only music around back then. sure it was a punch in the face that reverberated for years but dont make out like it was the only thing around. music has always been a jumble of sounds. it just depends where the medias focus is as to what we see as dominant. for the most part its about what can we sell to the sheep...
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I wonder if all the huge amphitheaters and concert venues will eventually be torn down, b/c I don't think there's many bands of the now that can fill them in the future. As big as people say Arcade Fire is , I don't see them ever being able to go on a cross country tour filling basketball arenas or outdoor sheds.
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While these bands may be good (I like the Hold Steady, I just can't do Arcade Fire. I've tried), they do not have the global appeal that Nirvana, PJ, Soundgarden had.
A lot of that also has to do with the times. Back then, people heard new music from MTV and the radio, and actually bought records, so obviously seeing and hearing them all the time helped.
But anyone who was old enough to remember the early 90's (which I would guess is most people on here) would remember how huge and commercial those bands became in a very short time, and how bands like Arcade Fire are nowhere near that global appeal.Yet anyways.
Yeah, I guess there's not really many huge indoor "concert" venues. Arenas are just handy. Hopefully it means will get more venues built specifically for music.
So I would disagree. There is still interesting music being made by new younger bands and older still hip bands.
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I have to disagree, they sold out three consecutive nights at the UIC Pavillion. The National opened and they were great.
i loved/love grunge and its one of the conerstones of my youth. but to suggest no other musical movement has come out of the world, since 1994 is beyond ridiculous.
i think the whole point is that when you spend your time thinking new scenes or new movements will sound or look like grunge. Hair metal and grunge couldnt have been more different, in style, in sound, in lyrics, in ethics. and i think its quite clear the next nirvana, will sound nothing like Nirvana.
The 90's, early 90's were such a magnificent time, but i think its silly to suggest since 1994, nothing exciting music wise has appeared.
With a capacity of 7k, in one one of the biggest cities in the world and a pretty well known support act. I'm talkin 20-30k.
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your comment that today on one side weve got the indie guys(and girls), on the other the cockrock alternative. and in between the kiddiepop and hip hop .. its all a jumble of sounds versus one defining culture is ludicrous. grunge was not the only music around back then. sure it was a punch in the face that reverberated for years but dont make out like it was the only thing around. music has always been a jumble of sounds. it just depends where the medias focus is as to what we see as dominant. for the most part its about what can we sell to the sheep...
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