To all you PJ20 complainers...

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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,747
    i really dont understand those type of the threads..you just give the stant to the complainers ..
    and dont comment on their threads..dont even read them..let them die in their misery
    who gives a shit what negative people have to say..i dont..
    we have so many experience to share of this weekend..do this type of threads..
    leave them alone..they are the real "middle of nowhere "people..
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  • Black73
    Black73 Posts: 1,018
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    i really dont understand those type of the threads..you just give the stant to the complainers ..
    and dont comment on their threads..dont even read them..let them die in their misery
    who gives a shit what negative people have to say..i dont..
    we have so many experience to share of this weekend..do this type of threads..
    leave them alone..they are the real "middle of nowhere "people..
    Well spoken, my friend. Sorry our paths didn't cross this weekend...I looked all over for you, only to meet a bunch of other cool people! Next time, Dimi!
  • RedMosquito22
    RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    Falling Down wrote:
    Other than set length, what would've been a satisfactory set? You knew they wouldn't play for way more than 2 and a half hours, that the venue was old and that there would be a few guests. So why complain? I can hardly see how night 1 could have been any better setlist wise. If you complain on the energy level, than may be you're part of the reason why.

    Cornell singing very close to 15% of the 61 songs is a little too much if you ask me. I think 2 per night would have been too many but would have been better.
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Black73 wrote:
    DS11119: This board has become venomous, no? Sorry you and I had a different night 1 experience, but neither of us is wrong. Likewise, neither of us deserves to be called names. Yesterday had a frequent poster call me an idiot regarding merch confusion I had. Accused me of being "....stupid and overzealous" and claimed I was trying to goad him into a war of words...after he called me an idiot.

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    Oh well. I would say 98% if not more of the board is still good people and the posters who type venomous things at times only do so because this is a nameless, faceless place and there's no accountablity. To the poster that called me a non fan for not appreciating night 1 the way he feels I should and I should have my membership revoked probably wouldn't say that face to face. I just have to believe that.
  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    Black73 wrote:
    fortyshades: both my sons, my wife and I met so many cool people this past weekend that we all knew this guy was the exception. Sadly, the exception is becoming a little too common for my taste. I knew we'd encounter some teaching moments (this was one of them), just didn't think having others' opinions thrust upon me was going to be so commonplace.

    There is another thread on here about what people saw during the concert and it seems to me that there were lots of drunk people... What even concerns me more, is that this behaviour is seen as "normal" and "conventional" somehow during a rock concert. Maybe I am becoming a conservative (hope to God not), or maybe this is what parenthood does to you, but to me pissing on a seat, jumping over a fence or passing out is pretty stupid and uncool... There is nothing funny about that. And has nothing to do with music...

    But hey. Who am I? Just a drop in a bucket...

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  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    DS1119 wrote:
    Black73 wrote:
    DS11119: This board has become venomous, no? Sorry you and I had a different night 1 experience, but neither of us is wrong. Likewise, neither of us deserves to be called names. Yesterday had a frequent poster call me an idiot regarding merch confusion I had. Accused me of being "....stupid and overzealous" and claimed I was trying to goad him into a war of words...after he called me an idiot.

    .

    Oh well. I would say 98% if not more of the board is still good people and the posters who type venomous things at times only do so because this is a nameless, faceless place and there's no accountablity. To the poster that called me a non fan for not appreciating night 1 the way he feels I should and I should have my membership revoked probably wouldn't say that face to face. I just have to believe that.

    This is the problem with anonimity on any forum. People seem to forget their scruplus. The upside of things is; that it also makes them easy to forget - no?
  • nc_jammer1
    nc_jammer1 Posts: 547
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    Falling Down wrote:
    Other than set length, what would've been a satisfactory set? You knew they wouldn't play for way more than 2 and a half hours, that the venue was old and that there would be a few guests. So why complain? I can hardly see how night 1 could have been any better setlist wise. If you complain on the energy level, than may be you're part of the reason why.

    Cornell singing very close to 15% of the 61 songs is a little too much if you ask me. I think 2 per night would have been too many but would have been better.

    Think I agree with this,...two songs each night with Cornell would have been a treat,...that would add 5 more PJ songs. Wasn't there but I agree with this viewpoint (not a complaint of course).
  • Veddernarian
    Veddernarian Posts: 1,924
    In 2000, USA, the big rarity was Alive. Before 2000, there was a Breath campaign. They finally played it in Philly 2000. Wash in Pittsburgh 2000 sent a shockwave through this message pit. When Blood and Deep reappeared in 2003, it was like the end of the world. Holmdel, Corrin Tucker joins PJ for Hunger Strike. I actually dislike her singing but she really nailed it. People were extatic!The jubilation was deafening. When at the Santa Barbara Bowl, Oct, 2003, Temple of the Dog reunited, that was like the shot heard around the world. People were in disbelief. Cornell was horrible that night, for some reason, his voice was shot and he sounded like 60+ year old Mick Jagger. But still, people reveled in the great moment. At LA, Gibson Theatre a couple of years back, Cornell came and did Hunger Strike and his voice was in top shape. People went nutts.

    Now look at the setlists for the 2 nights at PJ-20. Sure, not every rarity was covered. Led Zeppelin didn't reunite to play Fool in the Rain. The Who wasn't there. The Rolling Stones didn't show up. But I've got to say, it is amazing to see that list of songs, rare or otherwise, the significance of Mother Love Bone and Temple of the Dog in PJ's history being recognized, etc., other than personal favorites here and there, I really don't know what more anybody would want.

    I didn't go because I'm in my late 40's, have a family and those priorities. But I sat there with my blackberry, there at heart, in amazement over the developing setlists.

    What I'm wondering about is tattoos. I can't believe how many men and women have them nowadays. I don't understand it. Wait and see how those look when you're in your 60's, 70's and 80's. But what I'm getting at is whether the inks and dyes affect mental behavior? Maybe that has to do something about all the complaints about the sets. Otherwise, I can't pin it down to anything.
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  • eladder
    eladder Posts: 414
    I just dislike the sense of entitlement the complainers have. Like cornell hasnt done some of those songs for 20 years and if thats what pj wants WE should be fine w it! Its their art! Judging setlists and percentage of covers reminds me of american idol nonsense. And ed said they are the happiest theyve been and these "fans" still complain about what the band wants to play. Maybe these folks want the band to be as miserable as they are? Im sorry im complaing about complainers but it does affect me. I cant lie. Im so happy that im simply happy.
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    edited September 2011
    Veddernarian wrote:
    In 2000, USA, the big rarity was Alive. Before 2000, there was a Breath campaign. They finally played it in Philly 2000. Wash in Pittsburgh 2000 sent a shockwave through this message pit. When Blood and Deep reappeared in 2003, it was like the end of the world. Holmdel, Corrin Tucker joins PJ for Hunger Strike. I actually dislike her singing but she really nailed it. People were extatic!The jubilation was deafening. When at the Santa Barbara Bowl, Oct, 2003, Temple of the Dog reunited, that was like the shot heard around the world. People were in disbelief. Cornell was horrible that night, for some reason, his voice was shot and he sounded like 60+ year old Mick Jagger. But still, people reveled in the great moment. At LA, Gibson Theatre a couple of years back, Cornell came and did Hunger Strike and his voice was in top shape. People went nutts.

    Now look at the setlists for the 2 nights at PJ-20. Sure, not every rarity was covered. Led Zeppelin didn't reunite to play Fool in the Rain. The Who wasn't there. The Rolling Stones didn't show up. But I've got to say, it is amazing to see that list of songs, rare or otherwise, the significance of Mother Love Bone and Temple of the Dog in PJ's history being recognized, etc., other than personal favorites here and there, I really don't know what more anybody would want.

    I didn't go because I'm in my late 40's, have a family and those priorities. But I sat there with my blackberry, there at heart, in amazement over the developing setlists.

    What I'm wondering about is tattoos. I can't believe how many men and women have them nowadays. I don't understand it. Wait and see how those look when you're in your 60's, 70's and 80's. But what I'm getting at is whether the inks and dyes affect mental behavior? Maybe that has to do something about all the complaints about the sets. Otherwise, I can't pin it down to anything.

    Awesome. :)

    Here's the thing: There are people in this world who are just negative. They don't like the meal they just ate, the movie they just saw, the book they just read, the TV show they just watched, the vacation they just took, the football team they claim to love, the line at the post office, the price of gasoline, the hot weather, the cold weather, the rainy weather, the dry weather or really any thing in their lives.

    Why should a Pearl Jam show be any different?
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  • RedMosquito22
    RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    I'm not a fan of Cornell or Temple of the dog stuff because I can't stand his voice. The only waves it sent through me were shivers.

    That being said, I am not complaining about him performing because I get it and get what it means to some fans. However there was no reason to have him perform 8 songs at this festival. That was at minimum 4 too many.

    In my opinion it should have been Reach down one night and Hunger Strike the next. It would have been the better way to go.
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  • lawguy
    lawguy Posts: 257
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    I'm not a fan of Cornell or Temple of the dog stuff because I can't stand his voice. The only waves it sent through me were shivers.

    That being said, I am not complaining about him performing because I get it and get what it means to some fans. However there was no reason to have him perform 8 songs at this festival. That was at minimum 4 too many.


    Agreed. I enjoyed CC playing on Saturday night. I thought it was really cool to see some TOTD performed live. However, I also think it was kind of a buzz kill on Sunday night...especially when they played a couple of repeat songs. Maybe my hopes were just too high that someone else would be there (like Neil Young).

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