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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Wow just wow tough to further disgrace a dead person.
    Now she killed herself... was on a suicide mission with 5 kids in the car :wtf:


    talk about sticking with the facts.... really?

    And I will always look at both sides thats the kind of person I am.
    I looked at it and felt the entire doc not just the fact of the blood levels
    AllNiteThing wrote:
    The moral of this thread: some people will believe anything they see on tv, and never let facts get in the way of feelings and opinion. :lol:;)

    the snide remarks still ... really... again?
    I guess that truly is the is the only way you can get an opinion across ... with a jab
    to someone who doesn't agree :(


    AllNiteThing wrote:
    Pandora,

    Instead of continually posting your opinions based on your feelings, stick with the facts and you may see the truth of what happened.

    -You are arguing for an abscess, even though there is no evidence of an abscess. There is also no logical reason why an abscess would cause someone to drink a WHOLE bottle of vodka, and spark up some weed. Sorry, that is not logical.

    -NO authoritative figure (cops, doctors, etc) suggested that something was missed and that another autopsy was necessary. Watch it again. Some placate the family after continuous prodding, but none hold that opinion.

    -All witnesses said she seemed in control and knew what she was doing on the road. One witness even said it looked like she was on a suicide mission, so you can't dismiss the possibility that she wanted to kill herself.

    Every single thing that you posted has been debunked with facts. Please review the previous few posts and you will see, instead of reposting your same 'feelings' and ignoring everyone else's rebuttal.

    Thank you.
    But I do not have to stick with only facts...

    I can post my opinion any way I like and base it on what I like.

    I have stated why they are what they are and what I base it on both fact and feeling.


    Why is it so important to you that you continue to personally attack my view...

    you won't change my mind

    but

    we can agree to disagree that is what civil people do :D

    Thank you in advance for that... have a great day
  • The Waiting Trophy Man
    The Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    loveontwolegs wrote:
    FEELINGS: She was a fucking monster, she was an addict, she is misunderstood, she is a mental case. All of that shit is just opinions and trying to use your opinions to twist the facts, or trying to use the facts to change someones feelings about her motives are very, very tiring and useless.

    I understand what you're saying, I am just simply asking (those of you that accept the fact that she WAS drunk and high when she crashed the van) people's opinion on what they THINK was going through her mind. I realize that we probably will never know, and in the end it's not a cold, hard fact; however, I do think that, based on the evidence and the witness testimony, that we can form an opinion on what was going on in Mrs. Schuler's head. Because, in the end, I think there are only 2 possible answers:

    a) either she was determined as hell to get the kids home and was driving like a bat out of hell to get them home, but she simply was too drunk to realize she was going the wrong way down the highway, or...

    b) It was murder/suicide. She was intentionally trying to kill herself and didn't want to go out alone (control freak personality, fear of abandonment, etc.)

    We do know, based on eyewitness testimony, that the van was driving in excess of 70 mph and that the driver was not swerving or moving out of anyone's way. She was driving "dead pin straight" and seemed to be determined and in complete control of the van.

    Drunk drivers are usually all over the road, swerving and/or riding the shoulder. The van was heading perfectly straight down the highway at a high rate of speed. Maybe it took every bit of concentration to stay within the lines and she didn't realize how fast she was going, and was concentratingmore ON the road and not so much DOWN the road??

    Maybe someone has an OPINION on what they think really happened, based on all the evidence, circumstational evidence and eyewitness testimony??

    And, loveontwolegs, if you yourself do not want to share your opinion, then please just don't respond. You don't have to. I don't want to argue about it with you, I'm entitled to ask questions without someone cutting me off and determining that it's not worth asking("very tiring and useless"). If someone wants to answer me, they can.
    Another habit says it's in love with you
    Another habit says its long overdue
    Another habit like an unwanted friend
    I'm so happy with my righteous self
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,802
    Suicide mission is much much much much much more plausible than a medical event
  • Lizard
    Lizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    Suicide mission is much much much much much more plausible than a medical event

    I was thinking that also since she was apparently driving in a pretty straight line. Don't intoxicated people usually weave about?
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • loveontwolegs
    loveontwolegs Posts: 501
    The Waiting Trophy Man wrote:
    loveontwolegs wrote:
    FEELINGS: She was a fucking monster, she was an addict, she is misunderstood, she is a mental case. All of that shit is just opinions and trying to use your opinions to twist the facts, or trying to use the facts to change someones feelings about her motives are very, very tiring and useless.


    Maybe someone has an OPINION on what they think really happened, based on all the evidence, circumstational evidence and eyewitness testimony??

    And, loveontwolegs, if you yourself do not want to share your opinion, then please just don't respond. You don't have to. I don't want to argue about it with you, I'm entitled to ask questions without someone cutting me off and determining that it's not worth asking("very tiring and useless"). If someone wants to answer me, they can.

    I've voiced my opinion several times in this thread. It just seems that half of us are yelling LOOK AT THE FACTS! And some of us are yelling WHAT FACTS?? SHE WAS A NICE LADY. To me it seems the arguments have been apples to oranges instead of "looking at the facts, I FEEL this." And it has frustrated the hell out of me. Tiring and useless was in no way directed toward anyone in particular, just the overall tone of this whole thread.

    Based on everything that was shown and said, I KNOW she was high and drunk. I believe from all the circumstantial stuff, she was an addict that was very, very good at hiding her problem. And, believing that she was an addict makes the suicide mission seem somewhat plausible, because sometimes addicts don't see any other way out. But what about the kids in the car?? Knowing what I do about suicide, once someone's mind is made up, it could take a force of nature to sway them. Maybe she was planning on driving home alone that day, was going to kill herself, her mind was on repeat, but she was stuck with the kids.... YOu just cant know...
  • The Waiting Trophy Man
    The Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    edited August 2011
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    Suicide mission is much much much much much more plausible than a medical event

    I think so too. ANother piece of circumstational evidence it that she left her cellphone on the side of the road on the concrete divider; this was at approximately 1:15, right after she talked to her brother(and 15 min before the crash), who told her to stay put and that he was coming. Her family tried calling her again and it went straight to voicemail.

    Again, 1 of 2 things happened:

    a) She accidentally left it behind because she was drunk/high and perhaps panicked because her brother was coming to look for her and she would be in deep shit. She takes off, determined to get the kids home after 4 hours (should have only taken 35 min total) and get off the road.

    b) She left it behin intentionally so that no one could contact her or the kids in the van.
    Post edited by The Waiting Trophy Man on
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    Another habit says its long overdue
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  • The Waiting Trophy Man
    The Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    loveontwolegs wrote:
    I've voiced my opinion several times in this thread. It just seems that half of us are yelling LOOK AT THE FACTS! And some of us are yelling WHAT FACTS?? SHE WAS A NICE LADY. To me it seems the arguments have been apples to oranges instead of "looking at the facts, I FEEL this." And it has frustrated the hell out of me. Tiring and useless was in no way directed toward anyone in particular, just the overall tone of this whole thread.

    That's why I directed my question to "those of you that actually believe the EVIDENCE and the SCIENTIFIC FACTS and the AUTOPSY RESULTS." I'm going beyond the facts now and just asking people what they think her motives were. That's all. Not that it matters much, I was just looking for people's opinions.

    Maybe we're not understanding each other. It's kind of hard sometimes on a message board, minus tones and facial expressions and everything. Anyways, thanks for sharing your opinion in your original post, which I didn't quote here.
    Another habit says it's in love with you
    Another habit says its long overdue
    Another habit like an unwanted friend
    I'm so happy with my righteous self
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,802
    Lizard wrote:
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    Suicide mission is much much much much much more plausible than a medical event

    I was thinking that also since she was apparently driving in a pretty straight line. Don't intoxicated people usually weave about?

    I don't think you can say that overall, most probably do. I was just saying this medical talk is pissing in the wind. Why give her this ungodly benefit of doubt when this happens everyday.

    Cause she's a woman
    A mother
    A woman with a one sided documentry
    Wasn't a basketcase drunk
    Held a job

    Lot of prejudices when some want to avoid the facts starring them in the face.

    It's like that little Jewish boy who was murdered in Brooklyn a few weeks ago. They never thought to look initially at their own community. I'm sure they had a prejudice to who they thought would be capable of the abduction than that horrific murder.

    Point being, sons of bitches don't always look like sons of bitches

    Let's stop being naive

    Hi Lizard
  • Lizard
    Lizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    Hi Lizard
    :wave:
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
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