Number 1 > They made a documentary about it, so people gained an interest in it. That's the truth.
Number 2 > The whole listening to heavy music which is something we all do here, being a factor makes things interesting.
and Number 3 > They didn't have any evidence they committed the fucking crime dude.
We know they were not "good kids" but that has nothing to do with anything other than weather you'd be friends or not with them...or weather you'd let them watch your kids as you put it. I wouldn't let you watch my kids, so should I call the cops and have them put you on death row??
I agree 100 percent that I don't like any of these three guys they have in prision. I wouldn't have hung out with any of them back when all this happened. None of that has a damn thing to do with the fact that they put three kids in prison with no proof. You keep pooping out your mouth Echols mental health history. You said he threatened to kill his parents once.....why aren't you saying he threatened to kill the 3 boys he's on death row for????? So in other words what you're telling me is because he is bad seed, a piece of trash, a loser, a no good punk as bitch......that he should be killed weather he did the crime or not???
I'm gonna go confess to something and say you were there too okay. So be prepaired to join me in prison alright. If thats all it takes, I'll see you in prison with me okay.
Oh and it won't matter if in my confession the things I say happened couldn't have actually happened. For instance if I say we used a knife and skinned our victim but later it shows no knife was used in the murders and in fact the wounds were caused by animals clawing at the bodies that were left in the woods.........you're still going to join me in prison okay?????
Obviously there will be no evidence because we didn't really commit a crime but hey....if I confess us to it then you're toast buddy.
I know what you're saying. I get it. They are not anything to lose sleep over because they sure aren't "good people". But dude, if they didn't kill them why do you want them to die?
Why doesn't everyone just let this issue die already?
Evidence in cases don't amount to shit!
Casey Anthony/OJ ring a bell??
Sorry, sarcasm is in my intent. I think the American justice system is more corrupt then Wall Street.
Because many people, myself included, feel 3 innocent people are locked away! While tragic to allow a guilty person to go free, it is far worse to lock up the innocent.
I know, I'm on your side. Good kid, bad kid means nothing.
They didn't kill those lost souls. Bottom line
"Honesty will always be construed as negative to a dumbass"
:-)
Remember... Some people in here only want to go against every grain. They want to rile people up and take the opposite position.
They do it because they have their own skewed opinions about things. Beyond that no matter what logic and reasoning, no facts or evidence you present them... They'll always be stuck in their own single focused self.
"Honesty will always be construed as negative to a dumbass"
:-)
Remember... Some people in here only want to go against every grain. They want to rile people up and take the opposite position.
They do it because they have their own skewed opinions about things. Beyond that no matter what logic and reasoning, no facts or evidence you present them... They'll always be stuck in their own single focused self.
Cool...
We are discussing facts???
Great!!!!
Fibers found on the victims’ clothes matched clothes seized from Echols’ and Baldwin’s homes. The prosecution presented this fiber evidence at both trials
Discuss???
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Remember... Some people in here only want to go against every grain. They want to rile people up and take the opposite position.
They do it because they have their own skewed opinions about things. Beyond that no matter what logic and reasoning, no facts or evidence you present them... They'll always be stuck in their own single focused self.
Cool...
We are discussing facts???
Great!!!!
Fibers found on the victims’ clothes matched clothes seized from Echols’ and Baldwin’s homes. The prosecution presented this fiber evidence at both trials
Discuss???
Wasn't his grand father the person they think did this?
"Honesty will always be construed as negative to a dumbass"
:-)
Remember... Some people in here only want to go against every grain. They want to rile people up and take the opposite position.
They do it because they have their own skewed opinions about things. Beyond that no matter what logic and reasoning, no facts or evidence you present them... They'll always be stuck in their own single focused self.
Discuss???
Police took a necklace from Echols when he was arrested. An outside crime lab later found blood from two distinct DNA sources on the necklace. One source was consistent with Echols himself. The second source was consistent with both victim Steven Branch and co-defendant Jason Baldwin.
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Remember... Some people in here only want to go against every grain. They want to rile people up and take the opposite position.
They do it because they have their own skewed opinions about things. Beyond that no matter what logic and reasoning, no facts or evidence you present them... They'll always be stuck in their own single focused self.
Cool...
We are discussing facts???
Great!!!!
Fibers found on the victims’ clothes matched clothes seized from Echols’ and Baldwin’s homes. The prosecution presented this fiber evidence at both trials
Discuss???
Wasn't his grand father the person they think did this?
You tell me...
What ya got???
Im listening....
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Remember... Some people in here only want to go against every grain. They want to rile people up and take the opposite position.
They do it because they have their own skewed opinions about things. Beyond that no matter what logic and reasoning, no facts or evidence you present them... They'll always be stuck in their own single focused self.
Cool...
We are discussing facts???
Great!!!!
Fibers found on the victims’ clothes matched clothes seized from Echols’ and Baldwin’s homes. The prosecution presented this fiber evidence at both trials
Discuss???
Wasn't his grand father the person they think did this?
You tell me...
What ya got???
Im listening....[/quote]
I have nothing, but won't convict an innocent kid based upon your claims of he is a "lunatic".
Again you come across single focused on your own agenda.
"Honesty will always be construed as negative to a dumbass"
:-)
This is another problem with you, the burden lies with the state. Not withthe innocent/accused.
1st trial...
The jury was presented fiber evidence??
The jury was presented blood evidence?
The jury was presented 3 confessions by Misskelley???
And the jury came up with a GUILTY verdict based on that evidence.......
There was no DNA testing done during the trial 15 years ago. As this technology has become more available and accurate, a great deal of evidence from the crime scene has been tested. All tests failed to link Damien, Jessie or Jason to the crime scene in any way. DNA testing did, however, place other individuals' DNA at the crime scene.
This is another problem with you, the burden lies with the state. Not withthe innocent/accused.
1st trial...
The jury was presented fiber evidence??
The jury was presented blood evidence?
The jury was presented 3 confessions by Misskelley???
And the jury came up with a GUILTY verdict based on that evidence.......
There was no DNA testing done during the trial 15 years ago. As this technology has become more available and accurate, a great deal of evidence from the crime scene has been tested. All tests failed to link Damien, Jessie or Jason to the crime scene in any way. DNA testing did, however, place other individuals' DNA at the crime scene.
Lack of DNA evidence...
Or not having their DNA at the scene........
Will not set these 3 free....
Didnt we learn that a year or so ago....
Judges ruling????
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Remember... Some people in here only want to go against every grain. They want to rile people up and take the opposite position.
They do it because they have their own skewed opinions about things. Beyond that no matter what logic and reasoning, no facts or evidence you present them... They'll always be stuck in their own single focused self.
This
"Honesty will always be construed as negative to a dumbass"
:-)
There was no DNA testing done during the trial 15 years ago. As this technology has become more available and accurate, a great deal of evidence from the crime scene has been tested. All tests failed to link Damien, Jessie or Jason to the crime scene in any way. DNA testing did, however, place other individuals' DNA at the crime scene.
Lack of DNA evidence...
Or not having their DNA at the scene........
Will not set these 3 free....
Didnt we learn that a year or so ago....
Judges ruling????
circuit court judge Wednesday rejected claims that new DNA evidence proves the innocence of three men convicted of killing three boys 15 years ago, and denied their requests for a new trial.
Circuit Court Judge David Burnett issued a 10-page order Wednesday denying requests for a new trial. Lawyers for Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley -- known by supporters as the "West Memphis Three" -- had requested a new trial, arguing that new DNA evidence clears their clients.
Both Baldwin and Misskelley claim their lawyers failed to adequately represent them during their separate trials. Their lawyers also say DNA evidence provided by Echols' defense team shows the men did not kill Steven Branch, Christopher Byers and Michael Moore.
"The court finds that (Echols's) DNA-testing results are inconclusive because they do not raise a reasonable probability that he did not commit the offenses; that is, they are inconclusive as to his claim of actual innocence," Burnett wrote in the order.
In his appeal, Echols argued that newly analyzed DNA found no trace of him, Misskelley or Baldwin at the crime scene. But Burnett said he agreed with prosecutors' arguments that the absence of DNA didn't equal innocence.
"Proof of actual innocence requires more than his exclusion as the source of a handful of biological material that is not dispositive of the identity of a killer," Burnett wrote.
Burnett also said that even if he agreed that the new DNA evidence should be heard in court, he would deny Echols' request for a trial because there was "not compelling evidence that he would be
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Explain the "other individuals".....their blood/DNA is there...at the scene of the crime....but NOTHING from the "WM3"...explain that...I'm open, will consider ANY explanation...apparently it was a horrific crime scene, blood everywhere....why no blood from the WM3...THREE individuals currently in jail for this, but NO DNA from ANY of them....however, there is DNA from "OTHER" individuals from a "Horrific" Crime scene....but, NOT from ANY of the WM3...who are the other ppl?...if thats not a reason for at LEAST a new trial, I don't know what is
Explain the "other individuals".....their blood/DNA is there...at the scene of the crime....but NOTHING from the "WM3"...explain that...I'm open, will consider ANY explanation...apparently it was a horrific crime scene, blood everywhere....why no blood from the WM3...THREE individuals currently in jail for this, but NO DNA from ANY of them....however, there is DNA from "OTHER" individuals from a "Horrific" Crime scene....but, NOT from ANY of the WM3...who are the other ppl?...if thats not a reason for at LEAST a new trial, I don't know what is
DNA of the people who worked the crime scene....
There..
Explained!!!!!
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
3 boys bodies? their DNA...CHECK
"DNA of the people who worked the crime scene...."...CHECK
DNA from the WM3?....che....whoops!
it would be SOOO easy to exclude the Crime Scene ppl...then what?
Well...
If the new DNA turns out to be people who worked the crime scene.....
Then we are back to square 1......Right????
You better HOPE and Pray it isnt the DNA of people who worked the crime scene......
Cuz then you supporters may be in trouble....Right???
Do you HONESTLY think that they wouldn't have tested the Crime Scene ppl BEFORE they announced that the DNA was different from the ppl currently in Jail?
Do you HONESTLY think that they wouldn't have tested the Crime Scene ppl BEFORE they announced that the DNA was different from the ppl currently in Jail?
These are the same people...
Who FOR YEARS I have been told....Botched the whole case....Right???
Now I am supposed to believe they are SMART enough to test their own people 1st???
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Do you HONESTLY think that they wouldn't have tested the Crime Scene ppl BEFORE they announced that the DNA was different from the ppl currently in Jail?
These are the same people...
Who FOR YEARS I have been told....Botched the whole case....Right???
Now I am supposed to believe they are SMART enough to test their own people 1st???
Comments
cause he's retarted?,,,IQ of 72, right?
You want the reason...okay.
Number 1 > They made a documentary about it, so people gained an interest in it. That's the truth.
Number 2 > The whole listening to heavy music which is something we all do here, being a factor makes things interesting.
and Number 3 > They didn't have any evidence they committed the fucking crime dude.
We know they were not "good kids" but that has nothing to do with anything other than weather you'd be friends or not with them...or weather you'd let them watch your kids as you put it. I wouldn't let you watch my kids, so should I call the cops and have them put you on death row??
I agree 100 percent that I don't like any of these three guys they have in prision. I wouldn't have hung out with any of them back when all this happened. None of that has a damn thing to do with the fact that they put three kids in prison with no proof. You keep pooping out your mouth Echols mental health history. You said he threatened to kill his parents once.....why aren't you saying he threatened to kill the 3 boys he's on death row for????? So in other words what you're telling me is because he is bad seed, a piece of trash, a loser, a no good punk as bitch......that he should be killed weather he did the crime or not???
I'm gonna go confess to something and say you were there too okay. So be prepaired to join me in prison alright. If thats all it takes, I'll see you in prison with me okay.
Oh and it won't matter if in my confession the things I say happened couldn't have actually happened. For instance if I say we used a knife and skinned our victim but later it shows no knife was used in the murders and in fact the wounds were caused by animals clawing at the bodies that were left in the woods.........you're still going to join me in prison okay?????
Obviously there will be no evidence because we didn't really commit a crime but hey....if I confess us to it then you're toast buddy.
I know what you're saying. I get it. They are not anything to lose sleep over because they sure aren't "good people". But dude, if they didn't kill them why do you want them to die?
That's on you and your maker bud.
I know, I'm on your side. Good kid, bad kid means nothing.
They didn't kill those lost souls. Bottom line
:-)
They do it because they have their own skewed opinions about things. Beyond that no matter what logic and reasoning, no facts or evidence you present them... They'll always be stuck in their own single focused self.
:-)
If I dont have to believe Misskelley, when he says he is guilty....... Because he is retarded....
Then I guess I dont have to believe Echols, when he says he is innocent.....
Because Echols is a lunatic....And he has the papers to prove it.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
We are discussing facts???
Great!!!!
Fibers found on the victims’ clothes matched clothes seized from Echols’ and Baldwin’s homes. The prosecution presented this fiber evidence at both trials
Discuss???
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Wasn't his grand father the person they think did this?
:-)
Discuss???
Police took a necklace from Echols when he was arrested. An outside crime lab later found blood from two distinct DNA sources on the necklace. One source was consistent with Echols himself. The second source was consistent with both victim Steven Branch and co-defendant Jason Baldwin.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
What ya got???
Im listening....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
What ya got???
Im listening....[/quote]
I have nothing, but won't convict an innocent kid based upon your claims of he is a "lunatic".
Again you come across single focused on your own agenda.
:-)
:-)
I am still listening...
What facts do you have...
That proves they are innocent???
Ill be here all night....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
:-)
The jury was presented fiber evidence??
The jury was presented blood evidence?
The jury was presented 3 confessions by Misskelley???
And the jury came up with a GUILTY verdict based on that evidence.......
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Again, I'd be very interested in the retrial.
You are again entitled to your opinion.
I hope justice is served.
:-)
There was no DNA testing done during the trial 15 years ago. As this technology has become more available and accurate, a great deal of evidence from the crime scene has been tested. All tests failed to link Damien, Jessie or Jason to the crime scene in any way. DNA testing did, however, place other individuals' DNA at the crime scene.
Or not having their DNA at the scene........
Will not set these 3 free....
Didnt we learn that a year or so ago....
Judges ruling????
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
This
:-)
Circuit Court Judge David Burnett issued a 10-page order Wednesday denying requests for a new trial. Lawyers for Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley -- known by supporters as the "West Memphis Three" -- had requested a new trial, arguing that new DNA evidence clears their clients.
Both Baldwin and Misskelley claim their lawyers failed to adequately represent them during their separate trials. Their lawyers also say DNA evidence provided by Echols' defense team shows the men did not kill Steven Branch, Christopher Byers and Michael Moore.
"The court finds that (Echols's) DNA-testing results are inconclusive because they do not raise a reasonable probability that he did not commit the offenses; that is, they are inconclusive as to his claim of actual innocence," Burnett wrote in the order.
In his appeal, Echols argued that newly analyzed DNA found no trace of him, Misskelley or Baldwin at the crime scene. But Burnett said he agreed with prosecutors' arguments that the absence of DNA didn't equal innocence.
"Proof of actual innocence requires more than his exclusion as the source of a handful of biological material that is not dispositive of the identity of a killer," Burnett wrote.
Burnett also said that even if he agreed that the new DNA evidence should be heard in court, he would deny Echols' request for a trial because there was "not compelling evidence that he would be
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
There..
Explained!!!!!
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
so you're ADMITTING the Crime Scene was contaminated?!
There is an answer....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Right???
Cuz all it would take is one piece of fiber...
One piece of hair...
One piece of ANYTHING left behind by someone working the crime scene.....
And now the crime scene would be contaminated....Right??
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
3 boys bodies? their DNA...CHECK
"DNA of the people who worked the crime scene...."...CHECK
DNA from the WM3?....che....whoops!
it would be SOOO easy to exclude the Crime Scene ppl...then what?
If the new DNA turns out to be people who worked the crime scene.....
Then we are back to square 1......Right????
You better HOPE and Pray it isnt the DNA of people who worked the crime scene......
Cuz then you supporters may be in trouble....Right???
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Do you HONESTLY think that they wouldn't have tested the Crime Scene ppl BEFORE they announced that the DNA was different from the ppl currently in Jail?
Who FOR YEARS I have been told....Botched the whole case....Right???
Now I am supposed to believe they are SMART enough to test their own people 1st???
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
weak argument