Blast rocks central Oslo, Norway PM's office

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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    This man is crazy, filled with hate, using religion as his excuse to hate and to kill,
    nothing new there.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,976
    Pretty sure there are plenty of atheists killing daily, killings of random people. I wonder which is a bigger death tally overall.

    0.2% of the prison population is atheist. Naturally, if they're "killing random people" in droves like you suggest, they're going to get caught.

    Prison population:
    Catholic 29267 39.164%
    Protestant 26162 35.008%
    Muslim 5435 7.273%

    http://holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm

    Now, I'm not saying that Christianity is the problem... I'm just pointing out that us "non-believers" (I'm agnostic) don't get caught up in cults or mind-programming, like Christianity, and therefore aren't susceptible to "MORALIC duty" to KILL others.


    How many "found god" while in prison?
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Pretty sure there are plenty of atheists killing daily, killings of random people. I wonder which is a bigger death tally overall.

    0.2% of the prison population is atheist. Naturally, if they're "killing random people" in droves like you suggest, they're going to get caught.

    Prison population:
    Catholic 29267 39.164%
    Protestant 26162 35.008%
    Muslim 5435 7.273%

    http://holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm

    Now, I'm not saying that Christianity is the problem... I'm just pointing out that us "non-believers" (I'm agnostic) don't get caught up in cults or mind-programming, like Christianity, and therefore aren't susceptible to "MORALIC duty" to KILL others.


    How many "found god" while in prison?

    too bad they didn't find him sooner maybe they would not have killed to start with.

    Godfather.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,435
    I would expect that he spends the rest of his life in prison rather then the 21 year max, but crazier decisions have been made. Remember the guy who blew up the Pan Am flight over Scotland .....
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    polaris_x wrote:
    what are everyone's thoughts on his wish for an open-court hearing?

    personally, i would like that ... i believe that his hate needs to be shared in order for society to see the viewpoints of those that would do such a heinous act ... we need to understand what would drive someone to do what he did ...
    what he wishes and deserves are two different things. fuck his wish. hopefully someone offs the prick here in a matter of moments.

    maybe he'll hang himself with a bed sheet tonight. it'd save Norway a shit ton of money and time and grief. it would eliminate the barrage of news coverage on this asshole, no more media continuance like other evil bastards have received.

    just my opinion i could be wrong... but im not :evil:
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    People can call themselves "Christian", but if they are doing things that go directly against the teachings of Christianity, is it still OK for the media to label them as Christian?

    Besides, "Christian" is a very broad term. There are a lot of different flavors under that umbrella.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    chadwick wrote:
    what he wishes and deserves are two different things. fuck his wish. hopefully someone offs the prick here in a matter of moments.

    maybe he'll hang himself with a bed sheet tonight. it'd save Norway a shit ton of money and time and grief. it would eliminate the barrage of news coverage on this asshole, no more media continuance like other evil bastards have received.

    just my opinion i could be wrong... but im not :evil:

    you carry a lot of hate and anger in you ... that is easy to see ... i hope you find peace within yourself some day
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,976
    polaris_x wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    what he wishes and deserves are two different things. fuck his wish. hopefully someone offs the prick here in a matter of moments.

    maybe he'll hang himself with a bed sheet tonight. it'd save Norway a shit ton of money and time and grief. it would eliminate the barrage of news coverage on this asshole, no more media continuance like other evil bastards have received.

    just my opinion i could be wrong... but im not :evil:

    you carry a lot of hate and anger in you ... that is easy to see ... i hope you find peace within yourself some day

    This same quote could be generously applied, like sunscreen, on AMT.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    This same quote could be generously applied, like sunscreen, on AMT.

    i disagree ...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,976
    polaris_x wrote:
    This same quote could be generously applied, like sunscreen, on AMT.

    i disagree ...

    Really? Maybe I'll pick 1 day and simply respond to posts with your quote wherever it fits. ;)
    hippiemom = goodness
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    polaris_x wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    what he wishes and deserves are two different things. fuck his wish. hopefully someone offs the prick here in a matter of moments.

    maybe he'll hang himself with a bed sheet tonight. it'd save Norway a shit ton of money and time and grief. it would eliminate the barrage of news coverage on this asshole, no more media continuance like other evil bastards have received.

    just my opinion i could be wrong... but im not :evil:

    you carry a lot of hate and anger in you ... that is easy to see ... i hope you find peace within yourself some day
    i am extremely thrilled with my life. i am the farthest from hate and anger you can imagine. i do not accept evil bullshit. i am sorry you cannot wrangle your badassness and stand up for goodness and that kind of decency. it is not time for weakness. the iron fist rules. i have mine. you?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    know1 wrote:
    People can call themselves "Christian", but if they are doing things that go directly against the teachings of Christianity, is it still OK for the media to label them as Christian?

    Besides, "Christian" is a very broad term. There are a lot of different flavors under that umbrella.
    Agreed.

    However, should Christian leaders have to denounce those much like the right asks Muslim leaders to do.
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  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    know1 wrote:
    People can call themselves "Christian", but if they are doing things that go directly against the teachings of Christianity, is it still OK for the media to label them as Christian?

    Besides, "Christian" is a very broad term. There are a lot of different flavors under that umbrella.
    Agreed.

    However, should Christian leaders have to denounce those much like the right asks Muslim leaders to do.


    yes, if he did it in the name of Jesus Christ. If not, no
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    chadwick wrote:
    i am extremely thrilled with my life. i am the farthest from hate and anger you can imagine. i do not accept evil bullshit. i am sorry you cannot wrangle your badassness and stand up for goodness and that kind of decency. it is not time for weakness. the iron fist rules. i have mine. you?

    compassion and weakness are not one in the same ... i do not support what this person has done ... but killing him is only doing what he did and continues a cycle of violence ... i will stand by the side of decency and goodness - just not with blood on my hands ...
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    polaris_x wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    i am extremely thrilled with my life. i am the farthest from hate and anger you can imagine. i do not accept evil bullshit. i am sorry you cannot wrangle your badassness and stand up for goodness and that kind of decency. it is not time for weakness. the iron fist rules. i have mine. you?

    compassion and weakness are not one in the same ... i do not support what this person has done ... but killing him is only doing what he did and continues a cycle of violence ... i will stand by the side of decency and goodness - just not with blood on my hands ...
    blood is good for us. he is a monster and should be silenced in a dark cold hole someplace. he will die before trial or shortly after... that is my wish to the universe.

    the death penalty thread revisited, yes/no?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    compassion for this guy?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    chadwick wrote:
    compassion for this guy?

    what is the best possible outcome out of this for you? ... this man's death?
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,435
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Agreed.

    However, should Christian leaders have to denounce those much like the right asks Muslim leaders to do.


    yes, if he did it in the name of Jesus Christ. If not, no
    I can't imagine any Christian leader not denouncing his actions, whether he did it in the name of religion or not. Everyone alive should be denouncing him as a member of the human race.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    polaris_x wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    compassion for this guy?

    what is the best possible outcome out of this for you? ... this man's death?
    norway's people to be safe again. norway's people to be able to move forward in the healing process which will take more time than i can imagine. norway's great people are my concern, not this freak monster working for evil.

    again, how many people did he murder? how many children?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    chadwick wrote:
    norway's people to be safe again. norway's people to be able to move forward in the healing process which will take more time than i can imagine. norway's great people are my concern, not this freak monster working for evil.

    again, how many people did he murder? how many children?

    how is killing him going to accomplish any of what you want? ... how is killing him going to bring back those children?

    the best thing that can come out of this is that it doesn't happen again ... that the ignorance and hate this man carried doesn't reside in someone else ... you don't accomplish that by killing him ... you cannot begin to understand what drove him to his violent acts without compassion ... without understanding what truly motivated him ...

    killing him will only make him a martyr to all those that share is ignorant beliefs ... it will not make norway any safer ...