**The Official Tour The Southern United States Thread**

its just gish wrote:

LukinFan wrote:

Flagg wrote:

I started to believe that theory until they scheduled 2 shows in LA, one in TX and then back to LA for 2 more.

And then played Jazz Fest in 2010 and skipped up from NO to KC.

well said

When I saw the tour dates that year (LA to Austin and back to LA).. it broke my little heart. Selfish probably isn't the word, but that's what it seemed like. Selfish with a fat paycheck.

ComeToTX wrote:

Eddie made a big deal that he couldn't believe they hadn't played Austin since '95. They either don't know or they don't care that they've ignored us for so long.

rhinomagic wrote:

Better Dan wrote:

...Unfortunately, the only reason that we have for why they don't play down here is just that they don't want to. :( I think it's as simple as that...

Painful, but seemingly the only conclusion we're left to draw.

In a time where the census and demographics show our country's population is trending towards southern residency and our cities are growing, these guys continue to cash-in at their favorite cities/venues and ignore the possibility that we might have some PJ money on reserve, too.

Whatever. I'm shelling-out to go to Wisconsin after sitting out for 3 years. That's kind of my tipping point.

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Better Dan wrote:

Earlier in this thread someone compared the low population of the cities they are playing in Canada to the highly populated metropolitan areas around San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas. I've done this similar comparison for other cities they play and it really gets to be ridiculous.

by Citizen Zack » Tue May 17, 2011 5:47 pm

Just some food for thought - and yes, I realize this is a massive waste of time:

Pearl Jam is playing 10 Canadien shows in 9 cities. I got curious about the populations of the areas they will play in comparison to some of the southern stops they've skipped over the last 8 years.

Canada 2011 Shows - (Metro area population)

Montreal (3,635,571)
Toronto (5,113,149)
Vancouver (2,116,581)
Ottawa (1,130,761)
Calgary (1,079,310)
Edmonton (1,034,945)
Hamilton (692,911)
Winnipeg (694,668)
Saskatoon (265,259)

Total Canada sites metro area population - 15,763,155

A few major cities in the south US (Metro area population)

Houston (6,108,060)
Dallas (6,477,313)
Atlanta (5,268,860)

Each of these 3 cities is bigger than Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton, Hamilton, Winnipeg, and Saskatoon combined (by over 1 million people). Combined, these three cities outdo all the Canada sites by over 2 million people! In 3 cities that haven't seen a show in 8 years!

If you throw in San Antonio, the population of just 3 Texas cities - Houston, Dallas, SA - is 14,727,873. That's almost equal to all of the Canada sites combined, just in one state.

If you were to set up a hypothetical tour of 9 south US cities that would be realistic for the band to play, it might look something like this:

Houston (6,108,060)
Dallas (6,477,313)
Oklahoma City (1,257,987)
Atlanta (5,268,860)
New Orleans (1,235,650)
Charlotte (1,745,524)
Memphis (1,305,946)
West Palm Beach (5,413,212)
Tampa (2,733,761)

Total metro area population: 31,546,313

That's twice the number of people than in the areas of Canada they're playing. So really, why can't they play the south? I just refuse to believe it's because they feel like they can't sell enough tickets here. But they can in Saskatoon (no offense to residents of Saskatoon)? That would mean they're looking for cost effective tours. Since the last time they toured the majority of the south, they've played Europe 4 times, Australia/New Zealand, and South America - and rumors have it that they'll be in South America again at the end of 2011. That's 6, and now possibly 7, major international trips without playing some of the most populated areas of the United States. And now a second trip through Canada. Hardly cost effective when compared to playng in the US.

Honestly, I wouldn't take those shows away from Canada or anywhere else if I could. I'm happy they are getting to see the band. But what in the world is keeping them from playing the south? There are tons of fans down here who have supported this band from day one and they continue to act like we don't exist. They can easily sell tickets here.

LukinFan wrote:

Flagg wrote:

He did say "What the fuck were we thinking?" right after that. And showed us his UT stool he has been using since forever.

why would he have a UT stool? Kind of strange

Better Dan wrote:

LukinFan wrote:

Flagg wrote:

He did say "What the fuck were we thinking?" right after that. And showed us his UT stool he has been using since forever.

why would he have a UT stool? Kind of strange

I forgot exactly what he said, but he got it when they played Austin in 95.