Trick to sell ticketless tickets? HELP

Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
edited June 2011 in Other Music
I bought a ticket to the Black Keys show in Winnipeg July 2nd. Then my wife and I decided to buy Ed tickets for Minnie, same night. Bought em. Since then I've contacted TM through email to ask how to sell/get a refund for the Black Keys show, and their email back said "not all shows allow ticketexchange". So am I up shit's creek on this, taking a $70 wash for this? The floor is sold out. They could EASILY sell it again. Is there any way to get my money back on this?
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,881
    not unless you sell them yourself
    tickets are generally non-refundable
  • bburpeebburpee Posts: 194
    Sell them on Stubhub. It's easy as heck, just download the Ticketmaster PDF and create a Stubhub account, then log into Stubhub and sell it as an e-ticket, immediate download.

    Stubhub will take 20% or something, so be prepared for that, but if you want to dump the ticket to any hot show it'll be easy, especially if you just want to get back what you paid. I sold my Austin City Limits e-tickets in a half hour after I decided not to go, because my price was way cheaper than everyone else.

    On the other hand, if you're trying to scalp them at 2x the price, that's a scumbag move and everyone agrees.

    Stubhub also guarantees their tickets, so if you buy an e-ticket off Stubhub and it's invalid, they'll refund you.. although I've never had a bad ticket.
    Is it too much to ask for a full-blown Temple of the Dog set? Probably.
  • StillHereStillHere Posts: 7,795
    If they are the print at home type you should be able to sell them.

    If they are will call..prob out of luck.
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  • StillHere wrote:
    If they are the print at home type you should be able to sell them.

    If they are will call..prob out of luck.

    that's the thing. they aren't e-tickets. they are will call. FUCK.
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    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • bburpee wrote:
    Sell them on Stubhub. It's easy as heck, just download the Ticketmaster PDF and create a Stubhub account, then log into Stubhub and sell it as an e-ticket, immediate download.

    Stubhub will take 20% or something, so be prepared for that, but if you want to dump the ticket to any hot show it'll be easy, especially if you just want to get back what you paid. I sold my Austin City Limits e-tickets in a half hour after I decided not to go, because my price was way cheaper than everyone else.

    On the other hand, if you're trying to scalp them at 2x the price, that's a scumbag move and everyone agrees.

    Stubhub also guarantees their tickets, so if you buy an e-ticket off Stubhub and it's invalid, they'll refund you.. although I've never had a bad ticket.

    it's not an e-ticket. it's ticketless.

    I was just trying to get face. Me no scumbag.
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,290
    sorry to hear your bad luck but this is the exact reason why i love this ticketing system
  • bburpeebburpee Posts: 194
    Dave Eh wrote:
    bburpee wrote:
    it's not an e-ticket. it's ticketless.

    I was just trying to get face. Me no scumbag.

    Sorry - I misunderstood.

    If you're local, call the box office and see if you can pick up the ticket in advance. If so, pick it up, list it on Craigslist, bam!

    If not, call the box office and see if you can transfer pickup to a different name... who knows, maybe you can work something out with them. Black Keys are super-hot right now, out here the tix were scalping over $100 a ticket (that's why I didn't see them in L.A.). Box Office is pretty much your only solution in this situation, maybe you can fax them a copy of the credit card or something to verify.
    Is it too much to ask for a full-blown Temple of the Dog set? Probably.
  • sorry to hear your bad luck but this is the exact reason why i love this ticketing system

    it's good in theory, but it has its flaws. these days tickets go on sale several MONTHS in advance of the show. to tell someone "this is a hot band, so it will probably sell out, so if you don't buy a ticket now, you are probably shit out of luck, so you have to spend $70 now, and if something in your life comes up, you are shit out of luck, even if you are a completely honest person" is stupid.

    I totally understand that if they were flexible on a case-by-case basis, you'd have people getting a refund or transferring their tickets to someone else seemingly for face, but then you'd have them getting cash over face behind the scenes. They have this ticketexchange system is place just for that. If someone else buys it, you are off the hook. To offer it for some shows and not others is stupid.
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,290
    Dave Eh wrote:
    sorry to hear your bad luck but this is the exact reason why i love this ticketing system

    it's good in theory, but it has its flaws. these days tickets go on sale several MONTHS in advance of the show. to tell someone "this is a hot band, so it will probably sell out, so if you don't buy a ticket now, you are probably shit out of luck, so you have to spend $70 now, and if something in your life comes up, you are shit out of luck, even if you are a completely honest person" is stupid.

    I totally understand that if they were flexible on a case-by-case basis, you'd have people getting a refund or transferring their tickets to someone else seemingly for face, but then you'd have them getting cash over face behind the scenes. They have this ticketexchange system is place just for that. If someone else buys it, you are off the hook. To offer it for some shows and not others is stupid.

    the system does have flaws but at what expense is the general question. ie) how great are the flaws VS the benefits. this system is in place for hot shows for sections/venues that will sell out. it absolutely ensures there is no transference from ticket buyer to ticket end user. the main benefit that i see is this system shuts out scalpers 100%, and that to me is the most important issue at hand.

    i've sat 8th row floors for bruce and the estreet and i only got those tickets because of this system. ticketless tickets always end up in the hands of the fans at list price. you gotta love that!
  • he.who.forgetshe.who.forgets Posts: 4,593
    Your only two options are putting the tickets up on Ticket Exchange (of which you will usually incur a fee) or trying to get a refund. Say you have a death in the family or something. But if the tickets are in fact "paperless", then there is no option to re-sell other than through ticket exchange. That's the whole point behind paperless tickets; to prevent and eliminate scalpers completely. During a paperless ticket show, you simply present your credit card used to purchase the tix at the door. Instead of scanning a ticket, they swipe your card, and the greeter then prints out a seat locater. You get your seat locater and you're in the building. No chance whatsover to sell them.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,881
    Dave Eh wrote:

    I totally understand that if they were flexible on a case-by-case basis, you'd have people getting a refund or transferring their tickets to someone else seemingly for face, but then you'd have them getting cash over face behind the scenes. They have this ticketexchange system is place just for that. If someone else buys it, you are off the hook. To offer it for some shows and not others is stupid.
    Actually, if its ticketmaster, they will transfer the tickets to someone else.
    My wife had to go to the emergency room the day of MSG 2 08. I called TM, explained the situation, and my bud was able to pick up my tix no problem. They were hard tickets held at will call, not show your ID get a wrist band and enter the venue deal.

    Of course, MMJ might have a different policy and they may be using a ticketless system to prevent scalping. That is why no ticket exchange is allowed. People resell for profit via that site. It makes sense that MMJ would use a system like that. PJ should do it to IMHO.
  • helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,290
    Get_Right wrote:
    PJ should do it to IMHO.

    i absolutely agree and often wonder why PJ haven't figured it out...
  • Dave Eh wrote:
    sorry to hear your bad luck but this is the exact reason why i love this ticketing system

    it's good in theory, but it has its flaws. these days tickets go on sale several MONTHS in advance of the show. to tell someone "this is a hot band, so it will probably sell out, so if you don't buy a ticket now, you are probably shit out of luck, so you have to spend $70 now, and if something in your life comes up, you are shit out of luck, even if you are a completely honest person" is stupid.

    I totally understand that if they were flexible on a case-by-case basis, you'd have people getting a refund or transferring their tickets to someone else seemingly for face, but then you'd have them getting cash over face behind the scenes. They have this ticketexchange system is place just for that. If someone else buys it, you are off the hook. To offer it for some shows and not others is stupid.

    the system does have flaws but at what expense is the general question. ie) how great are the flaws VS the benefits. this system is in place for hot shows for sections/venues that will sell out. it absolutely ensures there is no transference from ticket buyer to ticket end user. the main benefit that i see is this system shuts out scalpers 100%, and that to me is the most important issue at hand.

    i've sat 8th row floors for bruce and the estreet and i only got those tickets because of this system. ticketless tickets always end up in the hands of the fans at list price. you gotta love that!

    yes, BUT if they did ticketexchange for all shows, it STILL eliminates scalpers. it's just reselling the ticket to someone else I don't know at face value, just as if TM were selling the ticket in the first place. so why would TM not offer this for ALL shows? if it's the admin fee, then fine, I'll sacrifice that, I don't care. All I really want is for SOMEONE to be able to enjoy the show in my absence. I'd even give it away if I could, but I can't!
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • WM31482WM31482 New York, NY Posts: 563
    It doesn't really shut out scalpers 100%...
    i went to one last year where you had to swipe the credit card you used to buy the tickets to get inside- saw more than one person swipe their card then let in two other people- said they bought the tickets as a gift

    i'm not sure how far apart the two venues are? maybe you can resell the tickets with the condition that the buyers arrive as early as they open the doors? then drive over to the EV show as fast as you can? hope that helps-
  • helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,290
    WM31482 wrote:
    It doesn't really shut out scalpers 100%...
    i went to one last year where you had to swipe the credit card you used to buy the tickets to get inside- saw more than one person swipe their card then let in two other people- said they bought the tickets as a gift

    ok i over exaggerated a little bit, um maybe it's 99.2% then...
    cause how many scalpers would go through the hassle that u have mentioned
    not very many is my guess. less than 1%
  • WM31482 wrote:
    It doesn't really shut out scalpers 100%...
    i went to one last year where you had to swipe the credit card you used to buy the tickets to get inside- saw more than one person swipe their card then let in two other people- said they bought the tickets as a gift

    i'm not sure how far apart the two venues are? maybe you can resell the tickets with the condition that the buyers arrive as early as they open the doors? then drive over to the EV show as fast as you can? hope that helps-

    no can do. black keys show is in winnipeg, EV show is in Minnie.
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
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