How does the Re-Issue SOUND?

G Force
G Force Posts: 1,393
edited April 2011 in The Porch
I've heard a ton of bitching about people not having their super delux. Collect your tears in a bucket for me would ya? I'm not currently able to afford that damn thing

What I want to know is... how does it sound? How did the re-master turn out. Do you hear a lot of difference? Is is better? How could it be right? What do you have for me, a guy who hasn't heard it? Is it good?

If there is a thread I'm missing... just post that link then. I did search but not relentlessly.

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  • Jokertt14
    Jokertt14 Posts: 2,566
    its amazing . it sounds just like the original not sure how they did it
  • G Force
    G Force Posts: 1,393
    jokertt wrote:
    its amazing . it sounds just like the original not sure how they did it

    Is this a smart ass or serious comment? I don't even get it. Smells like a troll fart in here.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,037
    G Force wrote:
    jokertt wrote:
    its amazing . it sounds just like the original not sure how they did it

    Is this a smart ass or serious comment. I don't even get it. Smells like a troll fart in here.

    Well it's not a significant upgrade because frankly, both albums were pretty perfect to begin with. It's not like how the new Beatles remasters are vastly superior to the CDs released in 1988. But that said, I think the bass seems a little more "powerful" and drums have a really nice clean sound on these remasters.

    But if I sat even the most devoted PJ-fanatic down and started playing Vitalogy songs and asked "Now was that the original or the remaster?", I doubt many would tell the difference.
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  • Leash_In_Hiding
    Leash_In_Hiding Posts: 691
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    G Force wrote:
    jokertt wrote:
    its amazing . it sounds just like the original not sure how they did it

    Is this a smart ass or serious comment. I don't even get it. Smells like a troll fart in here.

    Well it's not a significant upgrade because frankly, both albums were pretty perfect to begin with. It's not like how the new Beatles remasters are vastly superior to the CDs released in 1988. But that said, I think the bass seems a little more "powerful" and drums have a really nice clean sound on these remasters.

    But if I sat even the most devoted PJ-fanatic down and started playing Vitalogy songs and asked "Now was that the original or the remaster?", I doubt many would tell the difference.

    :clap: Pretty straight forward answer in my opinion. I agree
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  • 3crookedhearts
    3crookedhearts Posts: 72
    The Vitalogy vinyl sounds vastly superior to the original press. Mostly because it's been pressed on 2 180 gram slabs instead of one hurried 120 grammer. I had a surprising amount of out of the box surface noise, though. I'm listening through a pair of Sennheiser HD595s though, so they pick up everything.
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  • dustinpardue
    dustinpardue Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,829
    I can't tell much difference. Definitely not the difference in "Ten." (which was awesome) I agree with the earlier post that these albums were done pretty much right to begin with. Maybe a little heavier bass. I love it, especially the extra tracks.
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  • TunnelThroughDenial
    TunnelThroughDenial Posts: 769
    I fancy myself to have a pretty good ear and have played and recorded music for years. The mastering improvement is noticeable, but just barely. If money is tight, unless you want fresh LP's or the new 'rare' tracks I'd probably skip it.
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  • TouringFan2000
    TouringFan2000 Posts: 305
    i definitely don't fancy myself as a sound expert ... but i've listened to the remastered Vs. twice now with my headphones on and i think there's a noticeable difference in how "open" the sound is. seems just a tad crisper, too. i'm happy to have gotten it. time to spin Vitalogy tonight ...
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  • halv
    halv Posts: 716
    I listened to both yesterday for the first time and the drums seemed crisper for sure and more out front. When Go kicks in at about 20 seconds the bass is pretty powerful. I think they sound a bit better for sure. Cleaner with more distinct sound seperation, but like the other person said the originals were pretty good in the first place.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,037
    TouringFan2000 wrote:
    i think there's a noticeable difference in how "open" the sound is.

    That's a good way of putting it.
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Listen to both versions of Go.. There's a pretty big difference there. I wasn't going to buy the remasters, but was sold instantly when I compared them.

    To me, the remasters sound less muddy. It's easier to separate the sounds of the instruments. It has a crisper more open sound.
  • sickofit
    sickofit Norway Posts: 780
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Listen to both versions of Go.. There's a pretty big difference there. I wasn't going to buy the remasters, but was sold instantly when I compared them.

    To me, the remasters sound less muddy. It's easier to separate the sounds of the instruments. It has a crisper more open sound.

    I wasn't gonna get the re-issues purely cuz I thought the originals were produced well and always sounded good to me....but on that comment alone I'm seriously reconsidering my decision. 'Go' is one of my fave PJ tracks to rock out to and always gets my heart thumping. Dagnammit! :P
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    sickofit wrote:
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Listen to both versions of Go.. There's a pretty big difference there. I wasn't going to buy the remasters, but was sold instantly when I compared them.

    To me, the remasters sound less muddy. It's easier to separate the sounds of the instruments. It has a crisper more open sound.

    I wasn't gonna get the re-issues purely cuz I thought the originals were produced well and always sounded good to me....but on that comment alone I'm seriously reconsidering my decision. 'Go' is one of my fave PJ tracks to rock out to and always gets my heart thumping. Dagnammit! :P
    Listen to them yourself and judge. There is a definite difference. To me I feel like I'm more in the room with the band. Everything sounds crystal clear. The improvements are more noticable with Vs., but Vitalogy sounds great too. I didn't think they could make them better, but they did.
  • jmk
    jmk Posts: 425
    I would be glad to hear how the new vinyl records of vs and vitalogy sound. People who have been listening to the old pressing of these albums have always claimed that they are so much better than the cd's. This is properly also the case with the re-issues. The loudness levels of the vinyl records are of course much nicer for your ears and I suppose this is also the case with the new ones?

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