ATTENTION ALL TICKET BROKERS:

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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,136
    Cob wrote:
    If I can't get tickets to shows of bands I like (Phish, Pearl Jam) through the bands, I just show up to the show and try to buy them from the box office or someone out front, I don't deal with Ticketmaster. Someone ALWAYS has an extra, if there are scalpers selling at least I can try to talk them into a certain price from them, it's better than buying from a broker online.

    You would be surprised at how much ticket prices drop out front of a venue once the show has started, the scalpers panic because they don't want to get stuck with a ticket, I know it SUCKS to have to deal with getting tickets, but if you work the system, you won't have to deal with BS, you just have to be patient. I have a good friend in Houston that has been a ticket broker for years, he told me people will be getting into the Final Four this weekend for CHEAP, the people that were patient and didn't buy tickets months or weeks ago will get into the games for face value or cheaper. :)

    Maybe in Texas. But dealing with street scalpers in NYC is a dirty business-fake tickets, bait and switches, dudes running off with your cash..etc.... No thanks. And the moment the lights go out at a concert is part of the reason Im there in the first place.
  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    First , lets start off wih a limit of 2 per show.
    Allowing scalpers to buy 4 or 6 with their software takes the tickets out of the normal guys hands, alot quicker.
    How about Tickets need to be picked up at the venue,
    Photo ID and credit card used for the sale,
    but then you are funneled right into the venue.
    No going out into the street to go resell tickets,
    You must enter the venue immediately after picking up tickets .

    Bruce has done this sort of thing in the past, it seemed to cut into the resale market.
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,136
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    First , lets start off wih a limit of 2 per show.
    Allowing scalpers to buy 4 or 6 with their software takes the tickets out of the normal guys hands, alot quicker.
    How about Tickets need to be picked up at the venue,
    Photo ID and credit card used for the sale,
    but then you are funneled right into the venue.
    No going out into the street to go resell tickets,
    You must enter the venue immediately after picking up tickets .

    Bruce has done this sort of thing in the past, it seemed to cut into the resale market.
    Its a good idea as are paperless tickets.
  • whoyouare72
    whoyouare72 Chicago IL Posts: 2,182
    +1, very well written too.
  • deagator3
    deagator3 Posts: 76
    Ticket master holds tickets back - pay attention bc they will release more tickets closer to the show. Also, with the face value being relatively high, the resale won't be too high with the exception of the front rows. If you just wanna get in for any of the shows tickets will be had for face value or below, just wait.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,136
    deagator3 wrote:
    Ticket master holds tickets back - pay attention bc they will release more tickets closer to the show. Also, with the face value being relatively high, the resale won't be too high with the exception of the front rows. If you just wanna get in for any of the shows tickets will be had for face value or below, just wait.
    Good seats get released because they are not taken by the venue/people/companies that they have been set aside for.
    For example, I have a friend that works for Coca-cola. He can get tickets to any show at MSG, but he has to let the garden know how many tickets he will need 48 hrs. before the event. When all those commitments are satisfied and there are unclaimed tickets, then they get released. Perhaps some bands, and maybe PJ, require a release of tickets to thwart scalpers, but it certainly is not a deliberate strategy employed by TM.

    You are right about the higher face values though, I would guess that is precisely why EV and PJ tix are what they are.
  • Cradles Broken Glass
    Cradles Broken Glass Posts: 1,409
    Limiting TM sales to just two/show is good in theory, however, take into account people that have families. We are a family of three that means that one of us wouldn't get to go to the show or we would be sitting separately. :( I think the only way to truly solve it would be make scalping illegal and prosecute. They got on the ball with music downloading when the music industry started throwing a fit, but I guess the industry as a whole doesn't have a real issue with ticket scalping or it would be illegal by now. I guess they are still making money with "ticket brokers" gobbling up all the tickets where they were the ones getting screwed with the downloading thing rather than the fans.
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  • Goatboy
    Goatboy Posts: 509
    as someone said before...it is a scam. brokers get their seats from venue season ticket holders, from ticketmaster, from the professional sports teams and from the venues themselves. I have no doubt of this and know people in the broker business. ticketmaster owns stubhub. they mark up a portion of their tickets and sell them on there. ticketmaster sells the tickets to joe shmo who sells them to someone, meanwhile stubhub is making a percentage on both the seller and the buyer. stubhub has entire rows of certain sections of sporting events. and not nosebleeds either. seats that you can't find on broker sites. teams are selling through stubhub. the whole tickets business is dirty dirty dirty. too many people getting rich off of it for anything to happen. this is why I respect the 10c for what it does or atleast tries to do. anytime I can secure seats through the 10c I feel lucky really.
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,591
    Do you like ticket brokers?

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  • NT89378
    NT89378 Posts: 3
    The coathanger comment was the funniest part actually. Thanks for the good laugh.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,136
    Goatboy wrote:
    ticketmaster owns stubhub.
    I think stubhub is owned by ebay. You must be thinking of ticketsnow.
    Most of the sellers on stubhub are in fact brokers and individuals (both insiders and outsiders).
  • OGT92
    OGT92 Posts: 1,588
    What needs to happen (and I know it never will) is nobody should purchase tix for a couple weeks or however long it would take. Ticketfaggot goes out of business and the venues sell their own tix. That's what should happen. If it could happen now that ev sales are done it would be perfect.
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  • Goatboy
    Goatboy Posts: 509
    Get_Right wrote:
    Goatboy wrote:
    ticketmaster owns stubhub.
    I think stubhub is owned by ebay. You must be thinking of ticketsnow.
    Most of the sellers on stubhub are in fact brokers and individuals (both insiders and outsiders).

    oh yeah you're right. and live nation owns ticketmaster correct?
  • PrlJamin10
    PrlJamin10 Posts: 48
    Log on to e-bay & check out the large number of tickets up for sale to any EV show. It's amazing to see that which ever show you might be looking for, the vast majority of tickets for sale are being sold by people from other states! The tickets are trying to be sold for double to triple face value! My hope is that no one purchases tickets from e-bay & these selfish, greedy, low life, scum bag brokers that are trying to sell tickets from out of state have to eat every last ticket that they are trying to sell! The real fans trying to get tickets on TM for the city closest to them lose out because of these unethical people. It's time for us to take a stand and NEVER purchase tickets from a broker or scalper because we will continue to lose the fight! E-bay also needs to take a stand and not allow tickets to be sold on the site! :x
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,136
    Goatboy wrote:
    Get_Right wrote:
    Goatboy wrote:
    ticketmaster owns stubhub.
    I think stubhub is owned by ebay. You must be thinking of ticketsnow.
    Most of the sellers on stubhub are in fact brokers and individuals (both insiders and outsiders).

    oh yeah you're right. and live nation owns ticketmaster correct?
    They merged-one corporate entity (I think) operating two brands.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,136
    PrlJamin10 wrote:
    Log on to e-bay & check out the large number of tickets up for sale to any EV show. It's amazing to see that which ever show you might be looking for, the vast majority of tickets for sale are being sold by people from other states! The tickets are trying to be sold for double to triple face value! My hope is that no one purchases tickets from e-bay & these selfish, greedy, low life, scum bag brokers that are trying to sell tickets from out of state have to eat every last ticket that they are trying to sell! The real fans trying to get tickets on TM for the city closest to them lose out because of these unethical people. It's time for us to take a stand and NEVER purchase tickets from a broker or scalper because we will continue to lose the fight! E-bay also needs to take a stand and not allow tickets to be sold on the site! :x
    brokers and armchair scalpers-could be your next door neighbor trying to make a buck
    but can you think of any reason why ebay would want to increase its monitoring expenses while reducing a huge revenue stream

    Not a bad idea, if government pressure can get the hookers off craigs, maybe they can get the scalpers off ebay.
  • jrnyc
    jrnyc Posts: 537
    Backspacer_Backer wrote:
    As long as we, the fans, continue to buy these tickets at the scalper's inflated prices, scalpers will continue to exist and thrive. The way to beat them is to not give in to temptation by buying tickets from them. I refuse to, no matter how badly I'm dying to see EV live. I missed out on both presales, and I'm looking at ebay, and the prices make me want to puke. I am a normal guy with a wife and kids, and I can't justify paying $200 for a ticket to see EV.

    Ding ding ding, we have a winner! With no demand, they have no business, don't buy from scalpers!!!
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,264
    Get_Right wrote:
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    First , lets start off wih a limit of 2 per show.
    Allowing scalpers to buy 4 or 6 with their software takes the tickets out of the normal guys hands, alot quicker.
    How about Tickets need to be picked up at the venue,
    Photo ID and credit card used for the sale,
    but then you are funneled right into the venue.
    No going out into the street to go resell tickets,
    You must enter the venue immediately after picking up tickets .

    Bruce has done this sort of thing in the past, it seemed to cut into the resale market.
    Its a good idea as are paperless tickets.



    Agreed on all counts. Get the fans into the box office area, they pick up the tickets, and then go straight into the venue.

    Also, I would like to propose the public tazering of all ticket brokers.
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  • zarocat
    zarocat Posts: 1,901
    Catwoman1 wrote:
    I know there are more important things going on in our country today

    I think this compares to everything going on in North America :!: :silent:
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  • Parksy
    Parksy Posts: 1,852
    This probably wouldn't be feasible for arena shows obviously.. but for these small venues, why not try what Tragically Hip did in 2009 at the Danforth in Toronto?

    Tickets were sold via Ticketmaster... but made WILL CALL ONLY.

    Basically, if you bought the tickets with your credit card... only the credit card holder could pick up the tickets AT THE VENUE the DAY OF THE SHOW. (very similar with our 10C tickets) only this isn't exclusive to 10C members... it applies to everyone.

    You'd be hosed if down the road you could not attend the show.. but that would be a risk you would have to be willing to take.

    This would prevent any scalpers or brokers from hoarding tickets.

    Just a suggestion. :)
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