Present Tense vs. The End

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So I dont really post on here much...I have been a fan for quite awhile, and although I don't follow the band like I did in the past, I got into a bit of an argument with a buddy....I told him my disdain for "the end" and "just breathe". Both songs are a bit whiny and I really don't enjoy them as much as other songs. A good buddy and fellow long-time fan disagreed and compared "the end" to PRESENT TENSE. Said they were about equal as far as quality of PJ songs.....I laughed and told him he was psychotic and soft. Present Tense is a top five PJ song in my book......."The End" is pretty average and good to listen to about once a year......Any thoughts?
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Present Tense can bring me to tears and have me motivated to conquer the world at the same time. There's no comparison.0
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Beef19 wrote:So I dont really post on here much...I have been a fan for quite awhile, and although I don't follow the band like I did in the past, I got into a bit of an argument with a buddy....I told him my disdain for "the end" and "just breathe". Both songs are a bit whiny and I really don't enjoy them as much as other songs. A good buddy and fellow long-time fan disagreed and compared "the end" to PRESENT TENSE. Said they were about equal as far as quality of PJ songs.....I laughed and told him he was psychotic and soft. Present Tense is a top five PJ song in my book......."The End" is pretty average and good to listen to about once a year......Any thoughts?
You said it yourself and I agree. Not that I particularly dislike The End; it can be very moving and fitting at different points in life. Personally, at the point I am at, I prefer Present Tense any day of the week.0 -
punch ur buddy in the face...twice
i have no hate for the end(actually my fav. on backspacer) but it is not even close to present tense0 -
Makes much more sense... to live..... in the present tenseeeeee.
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PT all the way for me :-)0
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I gotta break this love chain for Present Tense and say The End.Tres Mts- 3/16/2011
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Anarmyofpeace wrote:Present Tense can bring me to tears and have me motivated to conquer the world at the same time. There's no comparison.Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?0 -
Present Tense is my all-time favorite song by any band. EVER. love that song.I LOVE MUSIC.
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Agree about PT. Always a top 5 PJ song.
I'm a big fan of Ed's softer songs too, but The End is way down on that list for me as well.96: 10-2 Hartford
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I personally think the end is really cheesy and phoned in. Easily the worst solo song he has written.
Present tense is like filet mignon while the end is like a mcdonalds burger patty with secret sauce to make it seem better than it is.5/28/06, 6/27/08, 10/28/09, 5/18/10, 5/21/10
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present tense!!!!!!!!!danny d0
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Anarmyofpeace wrote:Present Tense can bring me to tears and have me motivated to conquer the world at the same time. There's no comparison.
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Funny thing is when I told him I was going to post on here after his bullshit statement, his reply was "those people need to get a friggin life".........he probably listens to "the end" and cries at least once a day......I told him the pearl jammers were going to lynch him, so feel free to give him a verbal beat down..."The. End"makes me want to vomit....PT makes me want to jog 5miles0
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insert this wrote:PT all the way for me :-)"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
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Present Tense is a flawless song. The End is a pretty good song. No comparison in my book.He who forgets will be destined to remember.
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The End is a better song in my opinion, but I also like Present Tense very much.Stockholm - 07/07/20120
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Beef19 wrote:Funny thing is when I told him I was going to post on here after his bullshit statement, his reply was "those people need to get a friggin life".........he probably listens to "the end" and cries at least once a day......I told him the pearl jammers were going to lynch him, so feel free to give him a verbal beat down..."The. End"makes me want to vomit....PT makes me want to jog 5miles
I think they're both great songs, although I like PT a lot better, no contest. Still, there's nothing wrong if someone likes The End better.2003: San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Seattle; 2005: Monterrey; 2006: Chicago 1 & 2, Grand Rapids, Cleveland, Detroit; 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa; 2009: Austin, LA 3 & 4, San Diego; 2010: Kansas City, St. Louis, Columbus, Indianapolis; 2011: PJ20 1 & 2; 2012: Missoula; 2013: Dallas, Oklahoma City, Seattle; 2014: Tulsa; 2016: Columbia, New York City 1 & 2; 2018: London, Seattle 1 & 2; 2021: Ohana; 2022: Oklahoma City0 -
I like both, greatly prefer Present Tense. I made the mistake of putting The End on my iPod; it popped up during a particularly tough race, and I just wanted to lie down by the side of the road and give up. So I'd have to agree with the earlier poster re: how PT is so much more invigorating.All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.0
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present tense is in my top 5. The End is in my top 120We were but stones your light made us stars0
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There is no comparison in my book. Present Tense is one of PJ's best work.
THE ENDSeek my part, devote myself..0
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