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Sad vs. Any song on Binaural

JP33JP33 Posts: 1,348
edited March 2011 in The Porch
Sad here
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    boyo79boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    Any song on Binaural.

    Yep, 'Sad' is a great song but it was left off Binaural for a reason. It belongs where it is. It'd lose its magic if it had been on Binaural.
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    boyo79 wrote:
    Any song on Binaural.

    Yep, 'Sad' is a great song but it was left off Binaural for a reason. It belongs where it is. It'd lose its magic if it had been on Binaural.

    Totally agree
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    Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
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    Sleight of Hand!
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    I also agree with boyo79.
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    Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,490
    Binaural > Sad any second of the year.
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    JP33JP33 Posts: 1,348

    That is a killer version
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    Black DiamondBlack Diamond Posts: 25,107
    Brisk. wrote:
    Binaural > Sad any second of the year.
    He speaks the gospel
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,789
    boyo79 wrote:
    Yep, 'Sad' is a great song but it was left off Binaural for a reason. It belongs where it is.

    I totally disagree. 'God's Dice' and 'Evacuation' are B-sides at best whereas 'Sad' or 'Fatal' could be another band's best song.

    You say that it was left of Binarual for a reason. True. But do you know the reason? If you think that it's because it "didn't fit" on Binarual, I'd argue that you're wrong. I think it was left of specifically so it can be an "newly released" song on Lost Dogs. Right? Notice how Binarual was the first PJ record where the singles didn't have unreleased B-sides? They hoarded them for Lost Dogs...which is fine by me because I loved hearing "new" songs when I bought Lost Dogs.

    This kinda shows that Lost Dogs was years in the making. And I'd also argue that these reissues were planned for years as well. Why was an instrumental of 'Brother' on Lost Dogs? So the version with vocals can be released with the Ten reissue. 'Crazy Mary' was conspicuously absent from Lost Dogs. Why? So now it can be filler on the Vs/Vitalogy reissue. The most glaring omission from Lost Dogs was 'Leatherman'. Why was it omitted? So it can eventually be on the Yield reissue along with this 'Leatherman 2' song that Ed has mentioned.
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    Black DiamondBlack Diamond Posts: 25,107
    boyo79 wrote:
    Yep, 'Sad' is a great song but it was left off Binaural for a reason. It belongs where it is.

    I totally disagree. 'God's Dice' and 'Evacuation' are B-sides at best whereas 'Sad' or 'Fatal' could be another band's best song.

    You say that it was left of Binarual for a reason. True. But do you know the reason? If you think that it's because it "didn't fit" on Binarual, I'd argue that you're wrong. I think it was left of specifically so it can be an "newly released" song on Lost Dogs. Right? Notice how Binarual was the first PJ record where the singles didn't have unreleased B-sides? They hoarded them for Lost Dogs...which is fine by me because I loved hearing "new" songs when I bought Lost Dogs.

    This kinda shows that Lost Dogs was years in the making. And I'd also argue that these reissues were planned for years as well. Why was an instrumental of 'Brother' on Lost Dogs? So the version with vocals can be released with the Ten reissue. 'Crazy Mary' was conspicuously absent from Lost Dogs. Why? So now it can be filler on the Vs/Vitalogy reissue. The most glaring omission from Lost Dogs was 'Leatherman'. Why was it omitted? So it can eventually be on the Yield reissue along with this 'Leatherman 2' song that Ed has mentioned.
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    boyo79boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    boyo79 wrote:
    Yep, 'Sad' is a great song but it was left off Binaural for a reason. It belongs where it is.

    I totally disagree. 'God's Dice' and 'Evacuation' are B-sides at best whereas 'Sad' or 'Fatal' could be another band's best song.

    You say that it was left of Binarual for a reason. True. But do you know the reason? If you think that it's because it "didn't fit" on Binarual, I'd argue that you're wrong.

    I'm pretty certain that I didn't say it didn't fit on Binaural. I actually said its a great song. The band left it off the record not me. I'd hazard a guess they felt the songs that made it on Binaural were better than 'Sad'. Its irrelevant anyway, its not on the album. If it'd made the album and say 'Thin Air' never made it, we'd only be saying "Thin Air should have made it".

    I like Binaural as it is, I wouldn't change it and I totally disagree on your viewpoint that 'Gods Dice' and 'Evacuation' are B-side at best. 'God's Dice' is so under-rated in my humble opinion.
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    WildsWilds Posts: 4,329

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    Let me just say that video is without a doubt one of my favorite Pearl Jam moments of all time.

    It is otherworldly in it's feeling. Brilliant.

    And I love sad, but NAIS is tops, and probably Fatal is a close second, with Sad in the top 5, and perhaps the top three from those sessions for me.
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    boyo79 wrote:
    Yep, 'Sad' is a great song but it was left off Binaural for a reason. It belongs where it is.

    I totally disagree. 'God's Dice' and 'Evacuation' are B-sides at best whereas 'Sad' or 'Fatal' could be another band's best song.

    Agreed.
    You say that it was left of Binarual for a reason. True. But do you know the reason? If you think that it's because it "didn't fit" on Binarual, I'd argue that you're wrong. I think it was left of specifically so it can be an "newly released" song on Lost Dogs. Right? Notice how Binarual was the first PJ record where the singles didn't have unreleased B-sides? They hoarded them for Lost Dogs...which is fine by me because I loved hearing "new" songs when I bought Lost Dogs.

    This kinda shows that Lost Dogs was years in the making. And I'd also argue that these reissues were planned for years as well. Why was an instrumental of 'Brother' on Lost Dogs? So the version with vocals can be released with the Ten reissue. 'Crazy Mary' was conspicuously absent from Lost Dogs. Why? So now it can be filler on the Vs/Vitalogy reissue. The most glaring omission from Lost Dogs was 'Leatherman'. Why was it omitted? So it can eventually be on the Yield reissue along with this 'Leatherman 2' song that Ed has mentioned.

    haha, while this may all be true. At the end of the day, pJ has more songs than you shake a stick at....so, I guess I don't see a difference where these songs re-surface. If they put every B-side/single/etc on Lost Dogs...we would have 4 CD set instead of 2.

    Plus, aren't these guys beyond money at this point. Aren't they doing this for fun? I mean...i know you can never have too much cash...but, they have to be beyond loaded...??? amirite?
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    Tom KTom K Posts: 842


    So much better than the version from Lo10L.. thanks for the vid..
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    boyo79 wrote:
    Yep, 'Sad' is a great song but it was left off Binaural for a reason. It belongs where it is.

    I totally disagree. 'God's Dice' and 'Evacuation' are B-sides at best whereas 'Sad' or 'Fatal' could be another band's best song.

    You say that it was left of Binarual for a reason. True. But do you know the reason? If you think that it's because it "didn't fit" on Binarual, I'd argue that you're wrong. I think it was left of specifically so it can be an "newly released" song on Lost Dogs. Right? Notice how Binarual was the first PJ record where the singles didn't have unreleased B-sides? They hoarded them for Lost Dogs...which is fine by me because I loved hearing "new" songs when I bought Lost Dogs.

    This kinda shows that Lost Dogs was years in the making. And I'd also argue that these reissues were planned for years as well. Why was an instrumental of 'Brother' on Lost Dogs? So the version with vocals can be released with the Ten reissue. 'Crazy Mary' was conspicuously absent from Lost Dogs. Why? So now it can be filler on the Vs/Vitalogy reissue. The most glaring omission from Lost Dogs was 'Leatherman'. Why was it omitted? So it can eventually be on the Yield reissue along with this 'Leatherman 2' song that Ed has mentioned.
    And Out of My Mind was recorded in Area 54 with these guys...
    Star-Wars-Cantina-Band.jpgNow that's a conspiracy theory...

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    thefixer9thefixer9 Posts: 9,376
    Two words. Light Years
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    thefixer9 wrote:
    Two words. Light Years

    2 more words...


    ....fuck yeah!
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    thefixer9thefixer9 Posts: 9,376
    thefixer9 wrote:
    Two words. Light Years

    2 more words...


    ....fuck yeah!

    :D
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    Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 10,772
    I think Sad was/is a great fit for Binaural. I pair it with Light Years and I think it makes Light Years even better.

    As far as Sad vs. Binaural, I would take Of The Girl; otherwise Sad is 2nd.
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    RVM1978RVM1978 Leesburg, FL Posts: 320
    When Lost Dogs came out I tried to make my own version of "Binaural" and it ended up being like a 70 minute album. Which is fine by me, but here is the tracklisting I went with:
    1. Breakerfall
    2. God's Dice
    3. In the Moonlight
    4. Sad
    5. Nothing As It Seems
    6. Evacuation
    7. Hitchhiker
    8. Thin Air
    9. Grievance
    10. Education
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    12. Rival
    13. Insignificance
    14. Light Years
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    16. Soon Forget
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    JP33JP33 Posts: 1,348
    RVM1978 wrote:
    When Lost Dogs came out I tried to make my own version of "Binaural" and it ended up being like a 70 minute album. Which is fine by me, but here is the tracklisting I went with:
    1. Breakerfall
    2. God's Dice
    3. In the Moonlight
    4. Sad
    5. Nothing As It Seems
    6. Evacuation
    7. Hitchhiker
    8. Thin Air
    9. Grievance
    10. Education
    11. Of the Girl
    12. Rival
    13. Insignificance
    14. Light Years
    15. Sleight of Hand
    16. Soon Forget
    17. Fatal
    18. Parting Ways
    Great Setlist!
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    dr0ptheleashdr0ptheleash Posts: 1,264
    thefixer9 wrote:
    Two words. Light Years

    2 more words...


    ....fuck yeah!
    I am all for this one. I like Sad, but c'mon, Light Years KICKS ASS.
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    dannydanny Posts: 2,275
    insignificance!
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    Brisk. wrote:
    Binaural > Sad any second of the year.

    Brisk, can you fill me in on the video in your avatar?
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    thefixer9thefixer9 Posts: 9,376
    thefixer9 wrote:
    Two words. Light Years

    2 more words...


    ....fuck yeah!
    I am all for this one. I like Sad, but c'mon, Light Years KICKS ASS.

    100% Agree!!!
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    intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,228
    boyo79 wrote:
    Yep, 'Sad' is a great song but it was left off Binaural for a reason. It belongs where it is.

    I totally disagree. 'God's Dice' and 'Evacuation' are B-sides at best whereas 'Sad' or 'Fatal' could be another band's best song.

    Oh i totally agree with this.

    I'd say the only songs i might like more then sad are All or None & Sleight of Hand otherwise i'm taking sad over every other song on there.
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    Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 10,772
    I am all for this one. I like Sad, but c'mon, Light Years KICKS ASS.

    No way. Sad beat up Light Years and took its lunch money. :o:lol:;)
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    the lyrics to light years are some of ed's best.
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    JP33JP33 Posts: 1,348
    I am all for this one. I like Sad, but c'mon, Light Years KICKS ASS.

    No way. Sad beat up Light Years and took its lunch money. :o:lol:;)
    LOL
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