Why isn't abortion considered murder?

I like how Joyce Arthur explained it:

We all have our own opinions about what the moral status of the fetus might be. Some people believe a fertilized egg is a full human being with an absolute right to life that supercedes any right of the woman. Others believe that a fetus attains moral value only after it becomes viable, or upon birth. But that's all these beliefs are - opinions. There's no way to decide between them, because they're entirely subjective and emotional. Therefore, the only opinion that counts is that of the pregnant woman. The status of her fetus and any moral value accorded to it is entirely her call. A fetus becomes a human being when the woman carrying it decides it does.

HeidiJam wrote:

catefrances wrote:

why would anyone abort at 9 months?

and no i am not basing my decision on appearance. i am basing my decision on the developmental stage of the embryo, my state of mind at the time and my ability to look after a child i gave birth to. oh sure i guess i could go to term and just give up my child :roll: ... no i couldnt.

an abortion at 6 weeks would be less traumatic for me. yes thats right.. ME. and yes i said LESS traumatic cause do not think for a second this decision is an easy one for a woman to make.

Same reason people justify their decisions on developmental stages. 9 months is still a dvelopmental stage right?

i consider a 9 month old foetus to be, not so much a developmental stage, but the endgame. it can not develop anymore than it already has. all it can do is put on weight(though not always) while waiting to be born.

haffajappa wrote:

HeidiJam wrote:

catefrances wrote:

people? PEOPLE dont get abortions.. WOMEN get abortions. lets be very clear on that point.

what does it matter what the reason is for getting an abortion? whose business is it? do i like that abortion not be used as a form of birth control? sure... maybe... but its not my place to force motherhood or full term preganancies on any woman.

I didn't know women were FORCED to get pregnant??? When did this happen?

......... :shock:

nope, couldn't think of one situation where a woman might be forced to get pregnant.
not one.
nope.

thats cause no one said they were.

HeidiJam wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

how about you research it and report back to us. i am not repeating myself and my positions on this topic. you have not answered any questions i have posed to you.

so i ask you again. what effect on you personally would it have if my girlfriend had an abortion?

and also. you never replied to the post that byrnzie asked for your opinion on that brought you back into this thread........

Just because it does not have an effect on me does not mean that its right. What effect on you personally would it have if I smoked with my kids in the car with the windows up??? Since it does not effect you, I am sure you think its perfectly fine, right???
I did reply to the post.
Its a sad situation, one I hopefully would never have to go through. That is one of those situational areas where Its up to the parents. Its not fair to have a child into this world who would not be able to survive on its own due to health reasons.But lets not act like thats the majority of the reasons people are getting abortions.

and let's not act like the majority of abortions are performed as a convenient from of birth control that a woman can choose to utilize every other month or so....

i dont care what you do with your kids. they are your kids and i couldn't care less what you do with them. it does not effect me so i can't be bothered by it. i am not going to call you a murderer for them getting cancer due to your second hand smoke. i do not even see how your example is relevent to the topic at hand.

my example of granting women the vote and taking it away is more akin to giving them the right to choose and then taking it away.

well by your rationale, if you want to avoid the situation, nobody is forcing anybody to shag their wife now are they? people choose when and where to do that, so maybe they should choose abstinence instead? give me a break...

HeidiJam wrote:

also why is it deemed bad when I want to be an individual and not pay into a social system that rewards laziness, why are my personal freedoms taken away, why is my hard earned money taken away to provide for people who are unable to take care of them selves ( and continue to pay for their kids who they can't afford). You will probably answer with "for the "greater good" or whatever your liberal/socialist rhetoric is. But yet you are all for the individual in terms of abortion and seem to ingnor the "Whats best for society is best for the individual" montra, why is that? I am pretty sure the abortion is not good part of society, why the double standard? Your trying to force me to pay for other peoples health care, yet jump up in arms when people think there should be regulations on abortions???

If you're sick of paying for others and their kids which they can't afford, you'd think you'd lean a little more towards pro choice...

And there are regulations on abortions... Is that what you are arguing? Because your OP is asking why it isn't considered murder... are there regulations on murders? (I mean in the same sense you think there should be regulations on abortions)