Why isn't abortion considered murder?

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  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    _ wrote:
    Having a law preventing people from destroying a turtle's eggs is completely different from having a law preventing a turtle from destroying its own eggs. The latter, not the former, is more analogous to abortion.
    My point is that a human embryo is a developing human at the earliest stage. I find it odd that we have laws protecting sea turtle eggs yet not protecting developing humans.
    Why should we have laws protecting a turtles eggs since the egg is not a turtle???
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    Byrnzie wrote:
    HeidiJam wrote:
    You can't be this stupid can you?

    Reading your posts makes me believe it is actually possible to be this stupid.
    Great post...
    Please show me anywhere where a sperm cell by its self has evolved into life... Ill be waiting
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    HeidiJam wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    HeidiJam wrote:
    You can't be this stupid can you?

    Reading your posts makes me believe it is actually possible to be this stupid.
    Great post...
    Please show me anywhere where a sperm cell by its self has evolved into life... Ill be waiting

    Do you eat eggs?

    Pleae show me where an embryo is considered a life?...I'll be waiting.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    HeidiJam wrote:
    _ wrote:
    Having a law preventing people from destroying a turtle's eggs is completely different from having a law preventing a turtle from destroying its own eggs. The latter, not the former, is more analogous to abortion.
    My point is that a human embryo is a developing human at the earliest stage. I find it odd that we have laws protecting sea turtle eggs yet not protecting developing humans.
    Why should we have laws protecting a turtles eggs since the egg is not a turtle???

    Turtles are an endangered species. This is why their eggs are protected. Would you like me to draw you a picture to make it easier for you to understand?
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Smellyman wrote:
    republicans love fetuses........hate living people.....brown ones, gay ones, muslim ones, union ones, poor ones.......

    :lol:
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Byrnzie wrote:
    HeidiJam wrote:
    _ wrote:
    Having a law preventing people from destroying a turtle's eggs is completely different from having a law preventing a turtle from destroying its own eggs. The latter, not the former, is more analogous to abortion.
    My point is that a human embryo is a developing human at the earliest stage. I find it odd that we have laws protecting sea turtle eggs yet not protecting developing humans.
    Why should we have laws protecting a turtles eggs since the egg is not a turtle???

    Turtles are an endangered species. This is why their eggs are protected. Would you like me to draw you a picture to make it easier for you to understand?

    yeah, I can't say I get the endangered species vs unborn child analogy. it's apples and mangos.
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    HeidiJam wrote:
    Why should we have laws protecting a turtles eggs since the egg is not a turtle???

    we're not protecting the turtle eggs out of some public morality that not protecting turtle eggs is wrong. it's the preservation of an endangered species. I'm sure we'd turn around and have anti-abortion laws if we were heading towards a Children of Men type scenario. But we aren't.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Pleae show me where an embryo is considered a life?...I'll be waiting.
    the answer to this is simple. all republican politicians believe that an embryo is a life. because that is what their church and their base tells them. who is the last pro-choice republican to really hold a high office? thus we get their annual attempts to have roe vs wade overturned, only to find that members of the supreme court annually declare roe v wade as "settled law". i find it funny that people constantly donate money to organizations that are trying to make abortion illegal, limit access to abortions, or punish those that have an abortion. they are just pissing money away. here is my idea, instead of wasting money on a futile effort why not donate that money to a homeless shelter or a hospital and help take care of the born, living people that can't feed or care for themselves.
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  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Byrnzie wrote:
    If abortion was technically murder, then every time I jerk off I'm committing genocide.


    Oh shit... that means I produce snuff films.
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  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Turtles are an endangered species. This is why their eggs are protected. Would you like me to draw you a picture to make it easier for you to understand?

    I think this one should help you understand the OP..
    homer-simpson-brain-mri.jpg
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  • stipe19
    stipe19 Posts: 237
    KM43590 wrote:
    Why even bring this up? Each side of the issue is each persons opinion, therefore it's not right or wrong, it's their CHOICE! I believe each person has the right to make up their own mind, based on their beliefs and the situation they're in. No organization, government, religion or person has the right to tell anyone else what to do with their own bodies! So there you go, that's my OPINION!!! :D
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  • stipe19
    stipe19 Posts: 237
    Nastasja wrote:
    Awesome. Back to Stone Age once again.

    Can you remember your time in your mother's womb? I can't.

    Please be reminded that a woman's body is and remains her body and when she falls pregnant it should be her choice if she wants to have that child. Otherwise, she might even hate her child and I guess that won't help that baby either.

    If there is this so called pro-life attitude it means it's an anti-life attitude when it comes to the life of women.
    So you are saying the father should have no say?
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Do you eat eggs?


    I can eat fifty eggs....

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  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    inmytree wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Do you eat eggs?


    I can eat fifty eggs....

    50eggs.jpg

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    he still stands wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Do you eat eggs?


    I can eat fifty eggs....

    50eggs.jpg

    My favorite movie of all time.

    I totally agree for me top three for sure...it STILL brings a tear to my eye eveytime i watch it. Deeply religious moive without being too obvious.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNyl6gXLMLQ

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    inmytree wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Do you eat eggs?


    I can eat fifty eggs....

    50eggs.jpg

    "What we got here is failure to comooncate" 8-)
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Do you eat eggs?

    Pleae show me where an embryo is considered a life?...I'll be waiting.
    Read your post below this one. You consider a turtle egg (embryo) a turtle. If you don't consider an embryo a life then why are you protecting a turtle egg???
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    Byrnzie wrote:
    HeidiJam wrote:
    _ wrote:
    Having a law preventing people from destroying a turtle's eggs is completely different from having a law preventing a turtle from destroying its own eggs. The latter, not the former, is more analogous to abortion.
    My point is that a human embryo is a developing human at the earliest stage. I find it odd that we have laws protecting sea turtle eggs yet not protecting developing humans.
    Why should we have laws protecting a turtles eggs since the egg is not a turtle???

    Turtles are an endangered species. This is why their eggs are protected. Would you like me to draw you a picture to make it easier for you to understand?
    So an endangered turtle egg (embryo) now = a turtle, but a human embryo is not a human at the earliest stage of development???
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    HeidiJam wrote:
    If you don't consider an embryo a life then why are you protecting a turtle egg???

    I'm not.

    There are no turtles in my neighbourhood.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    Byrnzie wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Do you eat eggs?


    I can eat fifty eggs....

    50eggs.jpg

    "What we got here is failure to comooncate" 8-)

    Byrnzie, on this issue HELL YEAH!....one of my favorite scenes and quote.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


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