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All My RivalsAll My Rivals Posts: 55
edited March 2011 in The Porch
PJ 20 Question.

With the rampant speculation that it will be at Alpine Valley, i see a LOT of negativity to Apline Valley, with people avoiding the festival jsut because of location

As a Die hard since i was 12, this seems like a NOT TO EVER BE MISSED occasion.

Can anyone please give me some details on the pro's and cons of alpine valley?
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    teskeincteskeinc Posts: 836
    Its a 8000 seat Amphitheatre with room for 30K on a steep slope lawn, notorious for bad acoustics and bad views. For the 8000 lucky one, it will be awesome. For those on the lawn, guess it will be "just happy to be there"
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    erebuserebus Posts: 549
    if it is at Alpine Valley...

    Pro : Pearl Jam will be playing. That's enough for me

    bonus: if some people don't want to attend because of location, hopefully it will move everyone else up a little
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    Blood Red MosquitoBlood Red Mosquito Posts: 1,609
    erebus wrote:
    if it is at Alpine Valley...

    Pro : Pearl Jam will be playing. That's enough for me

    bonus: if some people don't want to attend because of location, hopefully it will move everyone else up a little

    Exactly
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    tottototto Posts: 291
    it could be a free show on the love boat with Charlie's Angles and peope on this forum would bitch.
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    RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    All My Rivals wrote:
    PJ 20 Question.

    With the rampant speculation that it will be at Alpine Valley, i see a LOT of negativity to Apline Valley, with people avoiding the festival jsut because of location

    As a Die hard since i was 12, this seems like a NOT TO EVER BE MISSED occasion.

    Can anyone please give me some details on the pro's and cons of alpine valley?

    Negatives:

    All US Amphitheaters(of this style) suck for sound
    Only 9,000 seats and 40,000 lawn tickets
    You are an hour or 2 from any type of Civilization
    At least an hour from the 2 major airports

    Positives:

    Pearl Jam is playing
    I have my rooms booked already(If it is indeed on Labor Day Weekend)
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    BLACK35BLACK35 Hanover, Ontario Posts: 22,469
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    All My Rivals wrote:
    PJ 20 Question.

    With the rampant speculation that it will be at Alpine Valley, i see a LOT of negativity to Apline Valley, with people avoiding the festival jsut because of location

    As a Die hard since i was 12, this seems like a NOT TO EVER BE MISSED occasion.

    Can anyone please give me some details on the pro's and cons of alpine valley?

    Negatives:

    All US Amphitheaters(of this style) suck for sound
    Only 9,000 seats and 40,000 lawn tickets
    You are an hour or 2 from any type of Civilization
    At least an hour from the 2 major airports

    Positives:

    Pearl Jam is playing
    I have my rooms booked already(If it is indeed on Labor Day Weekend)

    You booked rooms already and nothing has been confirmed, wow :?
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    mydogmookieblaylockmydogmookieblaylock Posts: 2,996
    totto wrote:
    it could be a free show on the love boat with Charlie's Angles and peope on this forum would bitch.
    +1
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    dougfloyddougfloyd Fishers, IN Posts: 2,544
    All My Rivals wrote:
    PJ 20 Question.

    With the rampant speculation that it will be at Alpine Valley, i see a LOT of negativity to Apline Valley, with people avoiding the festival jsut because of location

    As a Die hard since i was 12, this seems like a NOT TO EVER BE MISSED occasion.

    Can anyone please give me some details on the pro's and cons of alpine valley?

    It doesn't matter where they have this thing, people on here are going to complain. I'm happy that they are just having a 20th anniv fest, at least until I see the ticket prices :lol:

    I've never been there, but besides the steep lawn and sound issues that people already mentioned, I've heard some complaints about just the location (not being close enough to a bigger city, hotels, etc), not room for enough people, and taking forever getting in and out of the parking lot.
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    RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    BLACK35 wrote:
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    All My Rivals wrote:
    PJ 20 Question.

    With the rampant speculation that it will be at Alpine Valley, i see a LOT of negativity to Apline Valley, with people avoiding the festival jsut because of location

    As a Die hard since i was 12, this seems like a NOT TO EVER BE MISSED occasion.

    Can anyone please give me some details on the pro's and cons of alpine valley?

    Negatives:

    All US Amphitheaters(of this style) suck for sound
    Only 9,000 seats and 40,000 lawn tickets
    You are an hour or 2 from any type of Civilization
    At least an hour from the 2 major airports

    Positives:

    Pearl Jam is playing
    I have my rooms booked already(If it is indeed on Labor Day Weekend)

    You booked rooms already and nothing has been confirmed, wow :?

    It's not just me. The entire Alpine Valley Resort is booked for Labor Day Weekend and the weekend before because of PJ fans. I only lose $25 per room if I cancel. It was a no brainer.
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    Break The SkyBreak The Sky Posts: 1,276
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    BLACK35 wrote:
    RedMosquito22 wrote:

    Negatives:

    All US Amphitheaters(of this style) suck for sound
    Only 9,000 seats and 40,000 lawn tickets
    You are an hour or 2 from any type of Civilization
    At least an hour from the 2 major airports

    Positives:

    Pearl Jam is playing
    I have my rooms booked already(If it is indeed on Labor Day Weekend)

    You booked rooms already and nothing has been confirmed, wow :?

    It's not just me. The entire Alpine Valley Resort is booked for Labor Day Weekend and the weekend before because of PJ fans. I only lose $25 per room if I cancel. It was a no brainer.

    What's the best place to book a hotel? I'm guessing the answer is no where because I'm already too late?
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    Red MoskitouRed Moskitou Posts: 134
    Negative: It is in the US and not in Portugal... Major fault!!!! ; )
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    jlynchjlynch Posts: 29
    Looks like 450 people will be able to camp on site. http://gazettextra.com/news/2011/mar/01 ... ne-valley/ Not really too helpful. Was expecting full parking lot camping like back in the day with the Dead (which is why they nixed camping for so many years).
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    ajarv21ajarv21 Posts: 15
    I grew up about 20 minutes from there, in northern Illinois. Woodstock and Crystal Lake Illinois are only about an hour from alpine. They are also an hour to Ohare airport in Chicago. I know that is a little bit of driving but very easy to get to both. Milwaukee is only 40 minutes and is also an easy drive to Alpine.
    I haven't been there in a while so I'm not sure if that area has grown any. I doubt it did.
    Hope that helps.
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    Giuseppe EisonhawkGiuseppe Eisonhawk Posts: 145
    that settles it. It's going to be at Saratoga Preforming Arts Center, see ya there gang, you heard it here first
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    unlost dogsunlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    totto wrote:
    it could be a free show on the love boat with Charlie's Angles and peope on this forum would bitch.

    See, now that I would bitch about. I always found both Doc and Captain Steubing's kid annoying. And Charlie's Angels are hair-obsessed.

    Isaac the bartender is pretty cool, though. So is Bosley.
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    Given2Fly-FishGiven2Fly-Fish Posts: 811
    It's not just me. The entire Alpine Valley Resort is booked for Labor Day Weekend and the weekend before because of PJ fans. I only lose $25 per room if I cancel. It was a no brainer.[/quote]

    I am one of those fans (both weekends). I agree its a no brainer...
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    Break The SkyBreak The Sky Posts: 1,276
    Giuseppe Eisonhawk wrote:
    that settles it. It's going to be at Saratoga Preforming Arts Center, see ya there gang, you heard it here first

    I would be very happy about that.
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    choopchoop Posts: 1,060
    Giuseppe Eisonhawk wrote:
    that settles it. It's going to be at Saratoga Preforming Arts Center, see ya there gang, you heard it here first

    :lol: SPAC has a lawn that is even worse than alpine

    plus it's too easy to get into the pav without a pav ticket, it would get way crowded and PJ fans aren't the kind of crowd who can handle that
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    Johnny WongJohnny Wong Wauwatosa, WI Posts: 193
    totto wrote:
    it could be a free show on the love boat with Charlie's Angles and peope on this forum would bitch.

    I would be pissed the guys from CHiPs weren't there.... :evil:
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    Go To Fire 43Go To Fire 43 Posts: 449
    If it is Alpine...
    I have been to numberous shows at Alpine. My wife is a Dave Matthews fan and they play there every year. The only problem I have had at Alpine is usually the people that come to the Dave shows are ignorant. But since Pearl Jam shows always have the best fans it won't be an issue.
    The other issue is getting out of the parking lot. It is perfect for a Snickers commercial, "not going anywhere for a while".

    I will say that some of the views from the lawn are bad but as for the sound it is not as bad as people are making it out IMHO. It doesn't much bother me where PJ20 would be I will be there. I am just happy that the band I enjoy so much is still around for me to see and enjoy the music.
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    positive: be with my friends and celebrate the 20th anniversary of the best band in the world...dont care about location,even they play at central park and imstanding at MSG is still ok by me..
    negative:air ticket prices getting up every day so we need the announcement asap for book
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    Tom KTom K Posts: 842
    totto wrote:
    it could be a free show on the love boat with Charlie's Angles and peope on this forum would bitch.

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