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It isn't murder due to what current law dictates. As for logic, there is no logic in this debate. Each side holds a stiff line in their beliefs and will not attempt to debate with the other side. Too many hard liners involved in this debate.
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2022: Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto 2023: Chicago X2 2024: New York X2
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2022: Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto 2023: Chicago X2 2024: New York X2
Ahh, the old debate of what is a baby. One side argues life takes place as soon as intercourse is complete. The other argues it happens the millisecond after birth.
Why even bring this up? Each side of the issue is each persons opinion, therefore it's not right or wrong, it's their CHOICE! I believe each person has the right to make up their own mind, based on their beliefs and the situation they're in. No organization, government, religion or person has the right to tell anyone else what to do with their own bodies! So there you go, that's my OPINION!!!
Why even bring this up? Each side of the issue is each persons opinion, therefore it's not right or wrong, it's their CHOICE! I believe each person has the right to make up their own mind, based on their beliefs and the situation they're in. No organization, government, religion or person has the right to tell anyone else what to do with their own bodies! So there you go, that's my OPINION!!!
I like your opinion
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2022: Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto 2023: Chicago X2 2024: New York X2
Can you remember your time in your mother's womb? I can't.
Please be reminded that a woman's body is and remains her body and when she falls pregnant it should be her choice if she wants to have that child. Otherwise, she might even hate her child and I guess that won't help that baby either.
If there is this so called pro-life attitude it means it's an anti-life attitude when it comes to the life of women.
You can spend your time alone, re-digesting past regrets,
Or you can come to terms and realize
You're the only one who can't forgive yourself
A human embryo is a developing human/person is it not?
this has been debated to death, overkill on this board, and nobody ever says "oh my god! you know, you are right and i am wrong, thanks for making me see the light!!!"
this is all i'm going to say.
the egg you crack to make your breakfast is a developing chicken, no?
the caviar some eat are developing fish, right?
by your rationale why is that not animal cruelty?
because they are not alive, and can not survive at that age outside of the egg, just like an embryo can not survive out of the woman's womb, therefore it is not a person.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Why even bring this up? Each side of the issue is each persons opinion, therefore it's not right or wrong, it's their CHOICE! I believe each person has the right to make up their own mind, based on their beliefs and the situation they're in. No organization, government, religion or person has the right to tell anyone else what to do with their own bodies! So there you go, that's my OPINION!!!
Well said and I agree. i would add if you eliminate "unwanted" pregnancies, you eliminate the need.
Simple, because you won't allow people on welfare to use your tax dollars to get an abortion. LOL give it a rest.
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Life begins when the first cell divides... hours after procreation.
So, why isn't contraception murder?
Seriously speaking, is that a joke ? You're being sarcastic, right ?
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Why even bring this up? Each side of the issue is each persons opinion, therefore it's not right or wrong, it's their CHOICE! I believe each person has the right to make up their own mind, based on their beliefs and the situation they're in. No organization, government, religion or person has the right to tell anyone else what to do with their own bodies! So there you go, that's my OPINION!!!
Agreed. To each her own.
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Life begins when the first cell divides... hours after procreation.
So, why isn't contraception murder?
Seriously speaking, is that a joke ? You're being sarcastic, right ?
well, technically... I'm being facetious. But yes it is a joke. Scarily enough, there are plenty of religious zealots and pro-lifers who actually believe that.
Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
Why isn't abortion considered murder? for those of you that are pro-choice I would like you to define your logic...
murder is killing another human being. when do you think it becomes a human being? the moment the egg is fertilized? would be a weird definition if so. and why the hell did you not use the search bar? this topic has been debated to death on this forum. everyone's opinion is well known. you also failed to provide any rationale to your view, probably on purpose since you likely intended on just writing something extremely provoking and basically declaring "FIGHT!" you might as well be wearing boxing gloves while typing. this is all also probably due to the fact that you're upset that people were exposing your horrible miserly and unsympathetic views in the other thread.
Well, wouldn't you call it self defense if I was forcing you to gain weight, have health problems, cause you immense amounts of pain, possibly kill you, possibly confine you to a bed for up to 9 months, forcing you to feed, clothe, house me and completely change your life...and numerous other side affects, I believe you would be justified in murdering me if it was the only way to make me stop, (see abusive husband defense) so...following that wouldn't abortion be justified murder?
so fine, a fetus is a human, but a human that is causing damage to another that can be irreversible...seems like justifiable homicide to me.
not sure if I described the best way possible, but I think you can get the spirit of the argument
I myself would never want anyone to have an abortion, but their life isn't up to me.
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Why isn't abortion considered murder? for those of you that are pro-choice I would like you to define your logic...
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If there is ONE thing you take from this... let it be this: Pro-Choice is NOT Pro-Abortion.
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Submit this to memory... recall it when the topic of abortion arises.
Thank you.
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So then why do we have signs up around beaches that say "don't disturb the sea turle nest" same goes for animals going extinct?
This reminds me of an argument that Charlie Sheen would use for something.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
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2004: Boston X2, Grand Rapids
2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
2006: Toronto X2
2009: Toronto
2011: PJ20, Montreal, Toronto X2, Hamilton
2012: Manchester X2, Amsterdam X2, Prague, Berlin X2, Philadelphia, Missoula
2013: Pittsburg, Buffalo
2014: Milan, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo, Detroit
2016: Ottawa, Toronto X2
2018: Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona
2023: Chicago X2
2024: New York X2
1998: Barrie
2000: Montreal, Toronto, Auburn Hills
2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal
2004: Boston X2, Grand Rapids
2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
2006: Toronto X2
2009: Toronto
2011: PJ20, Montreal, Toronto X2, Hamilton
2012: Manchester X2, Amsterdam X2, Prague, Berlin X2, Philadelphia, Missoula
2013: Pittsburg, Buffalo
2014: Milan, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo, Detroit
2016: Ottawa, Toronto X2
2018: Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona
2023: Chicago X2
2024: New York X2
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2013: Pittsburg, Buffalo
2014: Milan, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo, Detroit
2016: Ottawa, Toronto X2
2018: Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona
2023: Chicago X2
2024: New York X2
Let the games begin!
I like your opinion
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2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal
2004: Boston X2, Grand Rapids
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2012: Manchester X2, Amsterdam X2, Prague, Berlin X2, Philadelphia, Missoula
2013: Pittsburg, Buffalo
2014: Milan, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo, Detroit
2016: Ottawa, Toronto X2
2018: Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona
2023: Chicago X2
2024: New York X2
Can you remember your time in your mother's womb? I can't.
Please be reminded that a woman's body is and remains her body and when she falls pregnant it should be her choice if she wants to have that child. Otherwise, she might even hate her child and I guess that won't help that baby either.
If there is this so called pro-life attitude it means it's an anti-life attitude when it comes to the life of women.
Or you can come to terms and realize
You're the only one who can't forgive yourself
this is all i'm going to say.
the egg you crack to make your breakfast is a developing chicken, no?
the caviar some eat are developing fish, right?
by your rationale why is that not animal cruelty?
because they are not alive, and can not survive at that age outside of the egg, just like an embryo can not survive out of the woman's womb, therefore it is not a person.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Well said and I agree. i would add if you eliminate "unwanted" pregnancies, you eliminate the need.
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Simple, because you won't allow people on welfare to use your tax dollars to get an abortion. LOL give it a rest.
So, why isn't contraception murder?
and sperm has the capability to produce this life... so why don't we prosecute men who jagoff?
Seriously speaking, is that a joke ? You're being sarcastic, right ?
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2004: Boston X2, Grand Rapids
2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
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2011: PJ20, Montreal, Toronto X2, Hamilton
2012: Manchester X2, Amsterdam X2, Prague, Berlin X2, Philadelphia, Missoula
2013: Pittsburg, Buffalo
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2016: Ottawa, Toronto X2
2018: Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona
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2024: New York X2
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Agreed. To each her own.
Don't fuck sheep. -EV 7/11/11
You can never have enough Neil in the mix. -EV 10/24/10
There's only one commandment: Don't be an asshole. -EV 5/6/10
well, technically... I'm being facetious. But yes it is a joke. Scarily enough, there are plenty of religious zealots and pro-lifers who actually believe that.
so fine, a fetus is a human, but a human that is causing damage to another that can be irreversible...seems like justifiable homicide to me.
not sure if I described the best way possible, but I think you can get the spirit of the argument
I myself would never want anyone to have an abortion, but their life isn't up to me.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
If there is ONE thing you take from this... let it be this:
Pro-Choice is NOT Pro-Abortion.
...
Submit this to memory... recall it when the topic of abortion arises.
Thank you.
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This reminds me of an argument that Charlie Sheen would use for something.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Sea Turtles?
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