Why isn't abortion considered murder?

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Why isn't abortion considered murder? for those of you that are pro-choice I would like you to define your logic...
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A fetus is not yet a person.Post edited by [Deleted User] on1996: Toronto
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It isn't murder due to what current law dictates. As for logic, there is no logic in this debate. Each side holds a stiff line in their beliefs and will not attempt to debate with the other side. Too many hard liners involved in this debate.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0
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HeidiJam wrote:So what is a baby?
A person1996: Toronto
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haffajappa wrote:oh god... here we go.....0
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Ahh, the old debate of what is a baby. One side argues life takes place as soon as intercourse is complete. The other argues it happens the millisecond after birth.
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Why even bring this up? Each side of the issue is each persons opinion, therefore it's not right or wrong, it's their CHOICE! I believe each person has the right to make up their own mind, based on their beliefs and the situation they're in. No organization, government, religion or person has the right to tell anyone else what to do with their own bodies! So there you go, that's my OPINION!!!0
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KM43590 wrote:Why even bring this up? Each side of the issue is each persons opinion, therefore it's not right or wrong, it's their CHOICE! I believe each person has the right to make up their own mind, based on their beliefs and the situation they're in. No organization, government, religion or person has the right to tell anyone else what to do with their own bodies! So there you go, that's my OPINION!!!
I like your opinion1996: Toronto
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Awesome. Back to Stone Age once again.
Can you remember your time in your mother's womb? I can't.
Please be reminded that a woman's body is and remains her body and when she falls pregnant it should be her choice if she wants to have that child. Otherwise, she might even hate her child and I guess that won't help that baby either.
If there is this so called pro-life attitude it means it's an anti-life attitude when it comes to the life of women.You can spend your time alone, re-digesting past regrets,
Or you can come to terms and realize
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HeidiJam wrote:zarocat wrote:A fetus is not yet a person.
this is all i'm going to say.
the egg you crack to make your breakfast is a developing chicken, no?
the caviar some eat are developing fish, right?
by your rationale why is that not animal cruelty?
because they are not alive, and can not survive at that age outside of the egg, just like an embryo can not survive out of the woman's womb, therefore it is not a person."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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KM43590 wrote:Why even bring this up? Each side of the issue is each persons opinion, therefore it's not right or wrong, it's their CHOICE! I believe each person has the right to make up their own mind, based on their beliefs and the situation they're in. No organization, government, religion or person has the right to tell anyone else what to do with their own bodies! So there you go, that's my OPINION!!!
Well said and I agree. i would add if you eliminate "unwanted" pregnancies, you eliminate the need.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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HeidiJam wrote:Why isn't abortion considered murder?
Simple, because you won't allow people on welfare to use your tax dollars to get an abortion. LOL give it a rest.SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.0 -
Life begins when the first cell divides... hours after procreation.
So, why isn't contraception murder?
and sperm has the capability to produce this life... so why don't we prosecute men who jagoff?Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.0 -
he still stands wrote:Life begins when the first cell divides... hours after procreation.
So, why isn't contraception murder?
Seriously speaking, is that a joke ? You're being sarcastic, right ?1996: Toronto
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Jeanwah wrote:haffajappa wrote:oh god... here we go....."Makes much more sense to live in the present tense"
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zarocat wrote:he still stands wrote:Life begins when the first cell divides... hours after procreation.
So, why isn't contraception murder?
Seriously speaking, is that a joke ? You're being sarcastic, right ?
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KM43590 wrote:Why even bring this up? Each side of the issue is each persons opinion, therefore it's not right or wrong, it's their CHOICE! I believe each person has the right to make up their own mind, based on their beliefs and the situation they're in. No organization, government, religion or person has the right to tell anyone else what to do with their own bodies! So there you go, that's my OPINION!!!
Agreed. To each her own.
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